Exciting New Pokemon X and Y Info Leaks

[bullados]

Just remember that Mega Digimon weren't the last stage of Digivolution. They could also DNA digivolve and fuse 2 digimon together. Cant wait for MegaBlaziken and MegaMetagross DNA digivolve into MegaMetaBlaziGrossIkenMon.

DNA Digivolved guys were still "Mega" level. They were just a stronger "Mega" than the un-DNA'd "Mega"s. Remember that even at "Mega" level, some Digimon were still stronger or weaker than others. And the "Ultimate" MagnaAngemon was stronger than several "Mega"s they came across.

 

[Scizor Master CLR]

what make pokemon different is thats its not degimon. Pokemon are suppose to be organic creatures that evolve or just exist. Digimon are just data and can change themselves when they need to. If they are making pokemon do this just because, then it means pokemon is becoming digimon. Also this sounds like power creep will be at its worst in this game.

This. Exactly this. I like Digimon because the multiple branched evolutions makes sense for digital creatures. Not so much for Pokémon, which I see as more organic.

I've never been fan of Pokémon formes because they are reversible. I probably won't like these because they are both reversible and are just a generic prefix for the creatures with this Mega Evolution mechanic.

I really like the designs though. Mega Blaziken and Mega Lucario look sick!

I really, REALLY doubt they will be called "Mega" in the English localization. It probably sounds just fine in Japanese, but not in English. I expect something different, although I'm blanking on potential alternatives.

Rumor has it that they will be referred to as Awakened? I can stomach that much better than Mega. Sort of like awakening their ultimate potential/power/whatever.

 

[Tagrineth]

Either way I hate the name. "Mega" doesn't mean big or strong, it means million. A "megablaziken" sounds like a joke way to measure the heat of a star ("Wow, how warm is that?" "Four megablazikens."), not a pokémon.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mega?s=t

mega (ˈmɛɡə)

— adj
slang extremely good, great, or successful

[C20: probably independent use of mega- ]

mega-

— combining form
1. M denoting 10 6 : megawatt
2. (in computer technology) denoting 2 20 (1 048 576): megabyte
3. large or great: megalith
4. informal great in importance or amount: megastar

[from Greek megas huge, powerful]

Word Origin & History

mega-
prefix, often meaning "large, great," but in precise scientific language "one million" (megaton, megawatt, etc.), from Gk. megas "great, large, mighty" (fem. megale), from PIE *meg- "great" (cf. L. magnus, Goth. mikils, O.E. micel; see mickle). Mega began to be used alone as an adj. 1982.

Science Dictionary
mega-
A prefix that means:

Large, as in megadose, a large dose.

YOU WERE SAYING?

 

[rivershock]

I'd have liked this more if it was only Pokemon that weren't that good to begin with (Mawile was a good choice, for instance) got them, given it would give the chance for Pokemon like Beedrill that don't have a chance to become useful through a new evolution or ability to get a stronger form. Pokemon like Lucario and Blaziken getting these cheapens that a little IMO. (Though I like how Mega-Mewtwo seems to be specifically designed as a Darkrai counter, lol.)

As for the comparisons to Digimon... How is this any different to forme differences? They're freely changeable, too! And the ability for those Pokemon to change forme has almost always only occured in games after their debut. This actually seems more logical to me than most forme changes. A sudden burst of power makes them change their form... But they can't sustain that power, so it's only temporary. It's not like certain kinds of energy couldn't make Pokemon change in shape and power anyway. (Evolution stones come to mind.) It being temporary doesn't make a difference to me.

From a balance standpoint, we still know next to nothing. Though we do know one thing: You will have to basically sacrifice holding an item for the ability to use a Mega. ;p I don't think they will break anything.

 

[tutti]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mega?s=tYOU WERE SAYING?

...something incorrect, apparently.

Still don't like the name

 

[Raen]

So according to clarified information, it looks like these forms only show up in battles, and are temporary even within a battle. In other words, it's basically an item-induced super form that works only for a relatively short time in battle.

Even if I've misinterpreted the info a bit, one thing is for sure: These forms are temporary and only happen in battles.

 

[rivershock]

These shouldn't be a problem, unless they decide to make a couple of broken ones... I could totally see them going overboard on a Mega Rampardos or something.

 

[LunarWolf21]

I love all the designs, especially Lucario's and Blaziken's. I do enjoy how they gave Absol an angel wing.

Adaptability Lucario will be amazing.

 

[Fox_Master51]

I think this evolve during battle thing could just be another general evolution method. Like how certain Pokemon need a certain move or can only evolve at night. In this case, it seems like you have to bring the Mega Stone into battle and then it Mega Evolves. I don't see much evidence saying that it's temporary. So I'm hanging back on this and waiting for more info.

 

[Otaku]

As for the comparisons to Digimon... How is this any different to forme differences? They're freely changeable, too! And the ability for those Pokemon to change forme has almost always only occured in games after their debut. This actually seems more logical to me than most forme changes. A sudden burst of power makes them change their form... But they can't sustain that power, so it's only temporary. It's not like certain kinds of energy couldn't make Pokemon change in shape and power anyway. (Evolution stones come to mind.) It being temporary doesn't make a difference to me.

Re-read your own statement for an answer. If you have to make a point that a difference doesn't make a difference to you... you're not being honest about the situation.

You also started with an assumption, and that assumption was not a wise one to make; what about those of us who don't care for "formes"? Or that don't mind them or like them, but dislike ones that are easily reversed? I am neither for nor opposed to "formes", but I want them to make sense both from a gameplay and from a setting perspective.

Now consider how this also very much is copying one of Pokémon's major rivals (Digimon) due in part with how it is implemented and definitely with how it is named. Finally, consider that those of us dissatisfied with the combat mechanics in Pokémon... aren't going to have this solve anything. This is the same old thing with a new gimmick added on - it won't advance combat in and of itself, it won't balance out old issues, and the best they can hope for is not creating new problems.

 

[Tagrineth]

This is pretty interesting, since these Mega forms can only be used during battle... and require the use of a hold item. So Mega pokemon cannot have Choice items, Life Orb, Leftovers, et al.

So it's a choice between a hold item and a Mega form.

Now consider how this also very much is copying one of Pokémon's major rivals (Digimon) due in part with how it is implemented and definitely with how it is named.

Nothing's original. Quit parroting this crap. It's not copying digimon any more than it's copying any one of a zillion other things where beings of some sort become bigger/flashier when they get stronger. For example I can easily say that both Digimon and Pokemon are heavily ripping off Dragonball Z using the same exact argument.

 

[tutti]

I just noticed that in the new trailer, whenever a pokémon goes Mega, the rainbow double-helix-like symbol from the game logos appears above its head. So I suppose that explains that symbol.

 

[Frost]

Now consider how this also very much is copying one of Pokémon's major rivals (Digimon) due in part with how it is implemented and definitely with how it is named.

Re: implementation. We've had Pokemon who change forms, even mid-battle, since 2002. This is nothing new.

Re: name. Mega Pokemon are known as Mega Pokemon even in Japan. Mega level Digimon are known as Ultimate Digimon in Japanese. Very doubtful that it was an intentional copying rather than picking an overusing word.

 

[MegaVelocibot]

Who would ever think putting Mega at the beginning of a name would be a good idea?

 

[AnUnown]

Who would ever think putting Mega at the beginning of a name would be a good idea?

The power rangers

 

[Benzo]

I look at it as sort of a temporary "boost"- like super sane (or what ever the dragonball z reference is)-

the Pokémon could return to normal after the battle...............

Still- evolving just was not enough for certain Pokémon, like Absol. (I so dig Absol from the start it came around)-


What would you rather have: Pre-evolution babies, or some sort of "Huh, how do you get that thing to evolve into that?"
seriously, mega, epic, up-grade, super-sane, this only opens the door to more options- not a gimic as far as strategy goes in the VG scene.

Some Pokémon change forms in battles, some gain a boost in weather, hold items do certain things to benefit- this is sort of coolio in that it brings in some effort of change.

like it or hate it- change happens and it is free will to enjoy or complain.

 

[NoDice]

A certain other Pokemon fan site found some info on Mega Evos posted on the JP X and Y site- I guess it states that basically you can only have one Mega in battle at a time, whether that means on your team period (aka no duplicate hold items clause- since the stones are all classified as the same type of item) or just active in the battle remains to be clarified.

If this is true, at least they are balancing it (which I was hoping for) so we wont see people spamming a team of 6 Mega mons in battles or anything.

 

[AnUnown]

I look at it as sort of a temporary "boost"- like super sane (or what ever the dragonball z reference is)-

the Pokémon could return to normal after the battle...............

Still- evolving just was not enough for certain Pokémon, like Absol. (I so dig Absol from the start it came around)-


What would you rather have: Pre-evolution babies, or some sort of "Huh, how do you get that thing to evolve into that?"
seriously, mega, epic, up-grade, super-sane, this only opens the door to more options- not a gimic as far as strategy goes in the VG scene.

Some Pokémon change forms in battles, some gain a boost in weather, hold items do certain things to benefit- this is sort of coolio in that it brings in some effort of change.

like it or hate it- change happens and it is free will to enjoy or complain.

I agree with all you're saying. Just wanted to let you know that Goku is a Saiyan (or Saiya-jin in Japan I guess)

 

[Otaku]

Nothing's original. Quit parroting this crap.

I make no claims that anything is "truly original", but that doesn't mean that altering your game's mechanics to more closely resemble a franchise that has long rivaled you (or at least attempted to rival you) isn't noticeable. It is important to realize that life isn't always about absolutes; you can be disappointed when Product A copies Product B, especially when you prefer Product A due to its (now decreasing) differences with Product B. It isn't an "all or nothing" scenario, just like it isn't hypocritical to hold a standard you have failed to perfectly adhere to or even struggle to approach.

My comment wasn't "crap" and I wasn't parroting it. It is the combination of my personal preferences and my analysis, and I even took the time to explain it (...it wasn't complicated). I am unimpressed by this mechanic, I find it unlikely to add to the game, I find it likely to detract from game balance, there is no sign that the issues I have with game play are going to be addressed... and then there is the impression that this is making the series even more like another that I don't enjoy anywhere near as much.

If anyone is parroting, it is you; the complaint you make is pretty formulaic, and your reasoning faulty. Your broad categorization for both parroting and for what constitutes copying don't hold up to scrutiny. For example, you're repeating a phrase/complaint (parroting) that is recognizable, and thus you are parroting others to criticize me for "parroting".

As finding something truly original is difficult (arguably impossible), from context it should be clear that there is a difference between complaining about two similar products becoming even closer versus two products that may fight for market share but aren't targeting the exact same audience using nearly identical concepts. Unless I missed the part where Master Roshi wanders the world to amass a stable of fighters to battle against other sensei doing the same thing? :lol:

With such loose guidelines, we could accuse Pokémon (and Dragon Ball Z and all the other series with this concept) of having ripped off the Bible (again); look up "The Transfiguration" if you are unfamiliar with it. Not even the oldest example of the concept but the oldest I could come up with off the top of my head. So yes, there is a difference between concerns over two similar products becoming even more similar than between different products becoming similar.

TL;DR: Parroting complaints about parroting may not be the best approach to discourage others from parroting arguments you don't like, though as I wasn't even parroting an argument it was a distraction anyway.

 

[Shino Bug Master]

Mega Kanga announced at worlds too.

Wish they actually did more with the base Pokemon but it's interesting to see the little tyke grown up