Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Fire Spin w/ X Accuracy

Even Better: Beedrill. What's he got, like 1/2 the spin area is miss, the other half is twinneedle? And he's actually got good movement?

THAT is scary. Beedrill's attack power shoots up into infinity GUARANTEED if this is the ruling (completely ignore all misses)
 
mtjimmer said:
Fire Spin and Iron Tail become the only things that Charizard can land on, under an X Accuracy effect. Keep Fire Spinning until you get Iron Tail...
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So it would seem that the card takes priority over the attack. I guess I'll have to change the way I've been playing then. I personally find this to be really broken personally, but I'm not the maker of the game; just a player. :D

Gibby
 
Gibby said:
So it would seem that the card takes priority over the attack. I guess I'll have to change the way I've been playing then. I personally find this to be really broken personally, but I'm not the maker of the game; just a player. :D

Gibby
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I don't see why it's broken. So you can rack up Firespin damage. Is it broken that you could rack up say 500 potentially? No because no pokemon can match that anyway. Usually it's going to take 2 or 3 firespins to ko & that's pretty normal anyway without the card. And everyone seems to be forgetting to recall that you can use the card only once. Will that break the game? I don't think so. Anyway, the card should take priority over the attack. If it didn't, what be the point of using the card?
 
lucy-chu said:
I don't see why it's broken. So you can rack up Firespin damage. Is it broken that you could rack up say 500 potentially? No because no pokemon can match that anyway. Usually it's going to take 2 or 3 firespins to ko & that's pretty normal anyway without the card. And everyone seems to be forgetting to recall that you can use the card only once. Will that break the game? I don't think so. Anyway, the card should take priority over the attack. If it didn't, what be the point of using the card?
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That's why I said it was "my personal opinion". Not everyone will see eye to eye with everyone else.

Truthfully, I have yet to get more then two Fire Spins in a row without the aid of X-Accuracy. It would just be my luck, but I don't have any feel for Charizard at all. I don't do well with him. Maybe that's why I find it broken. Who knows.

I wont say much about your last sentence because I've basically stated my thoughts on that in many posts beforehand, and I would simply be rehashing what I've said over and over again. We'll just end up going around in circles again like we were before at the start of this thread.

We've got a ruling on this, so the most I can do now is incorporate these rulings into my gameplay and find a way to work with them; or around them. ;)

Gibby
 
Well, it's not super broken, because Dodge/Purple attacks will win over white Fire Spin attacks regardless of the damage Fire Spin does.
 
Gibby said:
That's why I said it was "my personal opinion". Not everyone will see eye to eye with everyone else.

Truthfully, I have yet to get more then two Fire Spins in a row without the aid of X-Accuracy. It would just be my luck, but I don't have any feel for Charizard at all. I don't do well with him. Maybe that's why I find it broken. Who knows.

I wont say much about your last sentence because I've basically stated my thoughts on that in many posts beforehand, and I would simply be rehashing what I've said over and over again. We'll just end up going around in circles again like we were before at the start of this thread.

We've got a ruling on this, so the most I can do now is incorporate these rulings into my gameplay and find a way to work with them; or around them. ;)

Gibby
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Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue in a rude manner. I get enough of that on the Star Wars Miniatures boards.
So who made the ruling? I'm new to these boards & don't know who the official is.
 
mtjimmer is the official word on this and all rulings made on the trading figure forum.
 
lucy-chu said:
Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue in a rude manner. I get enough of that on the Star Wars Miniatures boards.
So who made the ruling? I'm new to these boards & don't know who the official is.
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Oh, I know you aren't trying to argue rudely. Arguments are good when done in a civilized manor; and that is how I feel we did. Everyone in this thread had a point of view they expressed and shared. That is why I like this place really. Sometimes we may get into some heated discussion over a specific ruling or something like that, but we adapt and more on (for the most part).

Good luck with the game in the future. It'll be fun talking about the TFG more with you in the near future.

Gibby
 
Rai said:
Even Better: Beedrill. What's he got, like 1/2 the spin area is miss, the other half is twinneedle? And he's actually got good movement?

THAT is scary. Beedrill's attack power shoots up into infinity GUARANTEED if this is the ruling (completely ignore all misses)
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Beedrill is pretty good that way. (Now if you could only have an infinite supply of X Accuracy, as well as no Miss on the Trainer figure...)
 
lucy-chu said:
Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to argue in a rude manner. I get enough of that on the Star Wars Miniatures boards.
So who made the ruling? I'm new to these boards & don't know who the official is.
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You'll notice that mtjimmer has a "Pokemon USA" logo under his name.
He is THE MAN from Pokemon for this game.
His word is law.
 
I'm fortunate to have worked on the rulebook and the dials - I'll be happy to answer any rules questions I can...it's unlikely that I will have the time to discuss WHY a rule is correct. (The game designers in Japan put a lot of time and effort into the TFG - everything has a logic and reason why it works that way. I will attempt to do the game justice in offering game play rules as I can.)
 
I take away my broken comment...
IN the IGN Review here is what I found.

IGN Comics: Another element in the game actually includes the use of cards. Can you speak to this mechanic a bit? Why use cards, what do they represent, and how rare are they?

Smith: Trainer cards are one-use cards that are combined with the Trainer figure we just mentioned. There are 8 different cards in the first release—they can be found in each of the Starter Sets, as well as the 2-figure and 3-figure boosters. As some examples, the Trainer card X Accuracy negates a Pokémon's "Miss" results for the turn, while other cards like Switch will let 2 of your Pokémon swap places.

http://comics.ign.com/articles/834/834231p2.html
 
Rai said:
Even Better: Beedrill. What's he got, like 1/2 the spin area is miss, the other half is twinneedle? And he's actually got good movement?

THAT is scary. Beedrill's attack power shoots up into infinity GUARANTEED if this is the ruling (completely ignore all misses)
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Um... actually it's a guaranteed 80 if you hit the X Accuracy. Not infinite.

Still pretty good.
 
It says "spin miss results again" So if you spun Miss, just spin again. In other words, Fire Spin until you get Iron Tail.
 
I read it that way too, because of this, X Accuracy says this exactly:
"Choose 1 of your Pokemon. During this turn, spin that Pokemon's Miss results again. (Doesn't affect Miss results from Burned or Paralyze)."

Now, being that is says "spin that Pokemon's Miss resultS again." leads me to belive, if you used in on Charizard, or even Chimchar, that you would respin any miss you get, IF your first spin was the multiplier attack.

So:
If you get Fire Spin on your frist Spin, then you keep spinning until you get Iron Tail and then stop spinning. If you get a Miss during any of these spins, it's ignored as it says to respin miss results, plural, not just the first miss you get.
If you get Iron Tail on your first spin, you get Iron Tail and stop spinning
If you get a miss, just keep on spinning until you get Iron Tail

Same with Chimchar... you can basically psin and keep hitting Fury Swipes until you hit Ember and you're good to go.

The key to mee is it says Miss results in plural, not singular. Thus, meaning all miss spins on any possible spin are ignored and spun again.

sorry... I type too much :)
 
Also it seems from the wording that the card targets the players actual turn, so of course it wouldn't end with X pokemon's first attack, it's not specificlly targeting them personally. Its all miss for the duration of this turn so, no doubt.


But C'mon, Beedrill? Beedrill is DECENT up untill you get attacked or run out of X accuracy. And if he gets paralyzed it's over.
 
It states "Choose 1 Pokemon." and "that Pokemon's Miss results". It only affects that single Pokemon for all of its Miss results (excluding Miss results from Burned & Paralyzed).
 
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