September 21, 2000 Chat Report CONFIRMED
Source: WotC Chat Reporter: qasic
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Results of WotC's Internal Prop15 Testing
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "As some of you may have heard, we held an internal tournament using a 15 trainer limit."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "One of the things we learned is that Ditto was the winningest card, meaning of the decks it was in, they won the most games."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Of course, jiggly/wiggly ended up in half the decks and did ok."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "I wanted to share with you the 3 decks that tied for first though. Here you go."
Editor's Note: the 0-0-0-0 is an indication of this: the first zero is the number of outright victories (3 points), the 2nd zero is the number of 'time' victories (2 points), and 3rd zero is the number of ties (1 point), and the 4th zero is the number of losses (0 points).
Kevin's Deck
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Kevin's Deck 3-1-1-0 12 points total"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Erika's Dratini"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Ditto"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Jigglypuff"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Wigglytuff"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Chansey"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Scyther"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Mewtwo, promo #3"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Professor Oak"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Computer Search"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Gust of Wind"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Scoop Up"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Misty's Wrath"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "1 NGR"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "1 Item Finder"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Full Heal Energy"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 DCE"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "14 Psychic Energy"
Kieran's Deck
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Kieran's Deck 4-0-0-1 12 points total"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Jigglypuff"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Wigglytuff"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Ditto"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Scyther"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Mewtwo, promo #3"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Energy Removal"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Professor Oak"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Rocket's Trap"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Computer Search"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Item Finder"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Rainbow Energy"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 DCE"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "17 Psychic Energy"
DMTM's Deck
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Dark Master Trainer Mike's "Evaporate or Whiskey a go go" deck 4-0-0-1"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Articuno, promo"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Blaine's Charmander"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Eevee, promo"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Dark Vaporeon"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Dratini"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Dragonair"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Gust of Wind"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Computer Search"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Energy Removal"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Super Energy Removal"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Professor oak"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "1 Narrow Gym"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Full Heal Energy"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 DCE"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "7 Fire Energy"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "13 Water Energy"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "(phew), check out the Pokegym for more details and analysis."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Of course we have done more testing since then as well."
Master_Trainer_Mike presents the speaker with question #176 from Tyais:
So any groundbreaking discoveries on Prop15 decks? I hear Bench Destruction could be a formidable opponent. ;-)
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Status effects mean more, energy denial works well."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Some cool decks once challenge comes out."
Master_Trainer_Pat says, "Challenge takes the energy denial decks back down a notch though. (Rocket's Zapdos is sooo wrong!)"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Games go a little longer and rely more on your choice of Pokemon and how you play them instead of just burning through 35 trainer cards."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Even a weaker design deck has at least a few rounds to try itslef out before it loses."
Master_Trainer_Pat says, "Wigglytuff is still very very strong in this format."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "People will play more of the Rocket special energy cards (almost like a trainer and an energy combined)."
Gym: Challenge Cards Details
Rocket's Mewtwo is confirmed to be in the set. Here's a little teaser: Rocket's Mewtwo's Juxtapose attack states: Flip a coin, if heads switch the number of damage counters on R. Mewtwo with those of the defending Pokemon.
There's Misty's Golduck and Sabrina's Golduck in Gym: Challenge. Both cards are rare.
Chaos Gym will be in Gym: Challenge.
Master_Trainer_Mike presents the speaker with question #138 from Scrye_Fung:
What Challenge cards do you think will impact the metagame greatest?
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Koga's Pidgey."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Chaos Gym"
Master_Trainer_Pat says, "Rocket's Zapdos"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Sabrina's Goldduck"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Rocket's Mewtwo"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Masterball"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Blaine's Charizard is a bit confusing but a good card."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Brock's Ninetails."
Brock's Ninetails WILL NOT be allowed to use Pokemon Powers just attacks
Master_Trainer_Pat presents the speaker with question #171 from kis21x:
with Vermillion City Gym in play, do you flip for base damage or gym damage first?
Master_Trainer_Pat says, "I think you'd have to flip for base damage first because V. Gym will only add 10 if the base attack did damage first."
Master_Trainer_Mike presents the speaker with question #174 from Chrisbo:
Can you tell us if the upcoming Sabrina's Kadabra has an attack called "LifeDown" and what does the attack text say?
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "It's attack is called Life Drain. Can't give out card text until it is released though, sorry."
Imakuni Promotional Cards
Wizards of the Coast DOES NOT have the right to print these yet. I hope they get them soon; there actually pretty funny!
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NEWS September 21, 2000 - 7:35 PM PST
Source: WotC Chat Reporter: qasic
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Results of WotC's Internal Prop15 Testing
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "As some of you may have heard, we held an internal tournament using a 15 trainer limit."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "One of the things we learned is that Ditto was the winningest card, meaning of the decks it was in, they won the most games."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Of course, jiggly/wiggly ended up in half the decks and did ok."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "I wanted to share with you the 3 decks that tied for first though. Here you go."
Editor's Note: the 0-0-0-0 is an indication of this: the first zero is the number of outright victories (3 points), the 2nd zero is the number of 'time' victories (2 points), and 3rd zero is the number of ties (1 point), and the 4th zero is the number of losses (0 points).
Kevin's Deck
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Kevin's Deck 3-1-1-0 12 points total"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Erika's Dratini"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Ditto"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Jigglypuff"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Wigglytuff"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Chansey"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Scyther"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Mewtwo, promo #3"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Professor Oak"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Computer Search"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Gust of Wind"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Scoop Up"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Misty's Wrath"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "1 NGR"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "1 Item Finder"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Full Heal Energy"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 DCE"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "14 Psychic Energy"
Kieran's Deck
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Kieran's Deck 4-0-0-1 12 points total"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Jigglypuff"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Wigglytuff"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Ditto"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Scyther"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Mewtwo, promo #3"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Energy Removal"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Professor Oak"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Rocket's Trap"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Computer Search"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Item Finder"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Rainbow Energy"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 DCE"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "17 Psychic Energy"
DMTM's Deck
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Dark Master Trainer Mike's "Evaporate or Whiskey a go go" deck 4-0-0-1"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Articuno, promo"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Blaine's Charmander"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Eevee, promo"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Dark Vaporeon"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Dratini"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Dragonair"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Gust of Wind"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Computer Search"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 Energy Removal"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Super Energy Removal"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "3 Professor oak"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "1 Narrow Gym"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "2 Full Heal Energy"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "4 DCE"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "7 Fire Energy"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "13 Water Energy"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "(phew), check out the Pokegym for more details and analysis."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Of course we have done more testing since then as well."
Master_Trainer_Mike presents the speaker with question #176 from Tyais:
So any groundbreaking discoveries on Prop15 decks? I hear Bench Destruction could be a formidable opponent. ;-)
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Status effects mean more, energy denial works well."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Some cool decks once challenge comes out."
Master_Trainer_Pat says, "Challenge takes the energy denial decks back down a notch though. (Rocket's Zapdos is sooo wrong!)"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Games go a little longer and rely more on your choice of Pokemon and how you play them instead of just burning through 35 trainer cards."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Even a weaker design deck has at least a few rounds to try itslef out before it loses."
Master_Trainer_Pat says, "Wigglytuff is still very very strong in this format."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "People will play more of the Rocket special energy cards (almost like a trainer and an energy combined)."
Gym: Challenge Cards Details
Rocket's Mewtwo is confirmed to be in the set. Here's a little teaser: Rocket's Mewtwo's Juxtapose attack states: Flip a coin, if heads switch the number of damage counters on R. Mewtwo with those of the defending Pokemon.
There's Misty's Golduck and Sabrina's Golduck in Gym: Challenge. Both cards are rare.
Chaos Gym will be in Gym: Challenge.
Master_Trainer_Mike presents the speaker with question #138 from Scrye_Fung:
What Challenge cards do you think will impact the metagame greatest?
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Koga's Pidgey."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Chaos Gym"
Master_Trainer_Pat says, "Rocket's Zapdos"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Sabrina's Goldduck"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Rocket's Mewtwo"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Masterball"
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Blaine's Charizard is a bit confusing but a good card."
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "Brock's Ninetails."
Brock's Ninetails WILL NOT be allowed to use Pokemon Powers just attacks
Master_Trainer_Pat presents the speaker with question #171 from kis21x:
with Vermillion City Gym in play, do you flip for base damage or gym damage first?
Master_Trainer_Pat says, "I think you'd have to flip for base damage first because V. Gym will only add 10 if the base attack did damage first."
Master_Trainer_Mike presents the speaker with question #174 from Chrisbo:
Can you tell us if the upcoming Sabrina's Kadabra has an attack called "LifeDown" and what does the attack text say?
Master_Trainer_Mike says, "It's attack is called Life Drain. Can't give out card text until it is released though, sorry."
Imakuni Promotional Cards
Wizards of the Coast DOES NOT have the right to print these yet. I hope they get them soon; there actually pretty funny!
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