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Flygon value pack blister box?

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I have one of these:

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Each one has 10 sealed flygon blisters in it - EX unseen forces, holon phantoms, legend maker packs.. plus a holo flygon pack.

What do you reckon this is worth? I have seen the individual flygon value packs go for 40 dollars on websites, but they're sold out.
 
I think $15 is a little low, but remember: Rare doesn't necessarily equal desirable. You can only milk this for what someone is willing to pay, not what you want to get. Haha.

I'd place them between $25 and $30 each. So the whole sealed case would be worth the price of each one plus a small premium for sealed, assuming you find a buyer for a sealed one. ;)
 
I think $15 is a little low, but remember: Rare doesn't necessarily equal desirable. You can only milk this for what someone is willing to pay, not what you want to get. Haha.

I'd place them between $25 and $30 each. So the whole sealed case would be worth the price of each one plus a small premium for sealed, assuming you find a buyer for a sealed one. ;)

There has been one individual box listed on ebay on sold listings. It went for a best offer, which was $37. All pokemon websites that sell cards have them listed at $40 and sold out. This suggests a little more than mentioned above.
 
One auctioned at $40 did not sell.
You'd think if it was actually worth $40 or more and as rare as you're making it out to be, it would have been snatched up in an instant, yes?

It's a cool item. It really is. But there aren't people desperately seeking out a sealed case of these for their collection. You'll find people casually interested, yes. but no one going crazy for it.

And you can't use "sold out" prices. Many stores have the prices change on the placeholder listings when they are sold out. It doesn't mean they actually sold them all at that price, nor does it even mean they ever had them. Sold out and a price listed isn't a completed listing. It doesn't imply that there were 100 of them at one point in time for that price and all of them sold. Online stores without any available means absolutely nothing in terms of determining a fair market value.
 
One auctioned at $40 did not sell.
You'd think if it was actually worth $40 or more and as rare as you're making it out to be, it would have been snatched up in an instant, yes?

It's a cool item. It really is. But there aren't people desperately seeking out a sealed case of these for their collection. You'll find people casually interested, yes. but no one going crazy for it.

And you can't use "sold out" prices. Many stores have the prices change on the placeholder listings when they are sold out. It doesn't mean they actually sold them all at that price, nor does it even mean they ever had them. Sold out and a price listed isn't a completed listing. It doesn't imply that there were 100 of them at one point in time for that price and all of them sold. Online stores without any available means absolutely nothing in terms of determining a fair market value.

Why does a store have an item listing, description, picture, price, if they never carried that item nor had it at that price? I've never heard of that. You go to any store and they're sold out of something, that means they had it, at least one, at some point at that price. You seem to be getting upset that I'm just pointing out what research I find online. Also, that was mine up for 40 dollars that I ran for one day to check the amount of views. I also had 2 other people message me with interest in purchasing the item.

I'm not making it more rare than it is at all. I'm just not going to sell it on a whim. I want to ask around and so far, have had a few opinions ranging from very rare to decent (yours). Me asking around =/= I'm overestimating its value. Just because an auction is up for a day and no one bids doesn't mean it isn't worth that amount to someone.

Also, on the same token as your 'fair market price' discussion, just because an item wasn't snatched up in the first day does not mean that its price is below that point. There are buyers for niche items. I have literally said nothing more than what I have seen prices at online, and you're telling me it's not worth it.

The completed ebay listing sold for 37$ for one of the packages. No need to get defensive.
 
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I'm not defensive at all.

Let's make it this much easier: I withdraw the offer I made to you privately on another site.

Now that that is out of the way, and I have no vested interested in it, I'm telling you: Places use placeholders. Especially TrollandToad. A lot of times they list things for a certain price and it doesn't sell. It might have sold at an event for much less. For example, they had a Red Logo Jungle Box listed at one point. Online it said $300. I paid significantly less than that through an offer I made at Nationals where they were attending. They had the listing up for a long time after that point.

Also, places might put a listing up if they have a buy list. They can put the listing as sold out as a placeholder until they purchase one. Then adjust the price once it is purchased to market value.

The difference between $30 and $40 is very, very small. So that's not my concern.

Let me sum up my points, because you seem to be confusing them.

1) I'm critiquing your initial post and "research." You've said that you "Have seen them go for $40 on websites." No. You didn't see them go. You saw a listing and sold out, which doesn't imply what you are saying it does.

2) I'm critiquing your value, saying I think $40 is higher than the high end of a range, the range being $25-30. You might get a little more just because it has been a bit of a dry spell lately for this particular item. I'm also critiquing the $15 and saying that's too low.

What I'm NOT doing that you seem to think I am doing:

1) Making this out to be super common. I'm definitely not saying it's common. At least, it's not common as a sealed case. That's a cool item, as I've said many times. You should be glad to have it.

2) Trying to say that your failed auction is the be-all and end-all of defining this item's value. That was just from a quick look. Clearly I think it takes more than one point to prove a value, as I'm telling you the sold out stores is a terrible way to define value on this item. You trying to check the number of views sounds suspicious to me, seeing as how you left it up for exclusively one day. Why not leave it up longer? A single data point does not prove a trend, which is what values are. So that seems silly to me. But you can do what you like with that.

But I've offered all the help that I can at this point. I don't believe past this point that you're going to be open to advice from people who have been doing this for years anyway, as you've made it pretty clear you're going to stick to your notion beyond all else. And you've got the right to do that. So best of luck in selling this item.
 
I don't want your offer that was made to me through PM (along with 2 other offers) 5 minutes after I asked about an items value. Thank you for making that clear, but I wouldn't have sold it anyways without doing more research. I already had an offer slightly higher than yours.

I understand the concept of purchasing an item at a secondary event. My intuition tells me that multiple sites sold out of the same item, at the same price, probably didn't sell all of these at local events for much lower prices. I suppose they could have, but it seems unlikely. So in this case, I guess the answer is neither of us know what really happened to these items between its listing and when it was actually sold.

1) I'm going by what I see on websites. You're going by what you have done one time at an event with a booster box. That's like going to Wal-Mart and saying, yea, this sold out item's price tag is $20...there are none left, but it probably went for less because I didn't see it actually purchased. As I said, I went to google, searched websites, and did nothing more than post what I see that it sold out for. "Websites have them up for $40 and they're sold out everywhere" Where did I say they sold, 100%, at that price? You're getting defensive for me just posting what I see online as possible information. Quit trying to put words in my mouth.. Also, once again, the best offer accepted of $37 dollars for the individual pack on ebay.

2) I never said it was worth $40. I said that I saw it online at stores for $40 and it was sold out, indicating people actually do want them.

3) I left it up for one day because I considered opening these rather than selling. I figure with most buyers, people check ebay on a consistent basis. If I get a certain number of views, that to me shows interest. With the number of views I received, and a couple of messages, I decided to leave the box unopened and continue asking around for more than a couple opinions.

Listen, the only vibes I have gotten from you are negative. This isn't a small purchase for most people, so I don't suspect that it will sell quickly. The fact I was offered over a few hundred dollars by at least 2 people (1 being you) 5 minutes after posting it tells me that it might be something to get a second opinion on, which I really haven't had much input on. What you seem to dislike is someone discussing something with you in any way other than you feel is correct. So I guess the best thing for you to do is keep buying these locally where you still "see" them, and stop bothering me with PMs to sell you this item. Thanks for your help.
 
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Holon Phantoms Booster Packs - $8 a piece
Unseen Forces Booster Packs - $10 a piece
Legend Maker Booster Packs - $8 a piece

That's $26 + a few dollars each for the "sealed" blister and the promo.
Around $30 is where I'd value it. So for all 10 around $300
 
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