Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

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I honestly have no clue where to post this. I guess this is where I will.

Basically, I'll try to keep this short and simple. How does one get out of the habit of "Game Mistaking/Miss-playing"? I'm getting tired of going to event after event, and always missing top cut because of making game mistakes left and right. I always play decks I'm comfortable with, but, doesn't seem to help. Maybe it just red face paint deck's aren't too great?

Not sure if theirs a way to define how to NOT game mistake, but some suggestions might help!

Again, sorry if this is in the wrong section.
 
Experience. I'm a new player myself (only been playing 5, maybe 6 months now) and I still misplay occasioanally, just not as bad as I used to.

Just keep playing, and you'll eventually be able to learn when and when not to play a card.

Hope this helps.
 
The key not to misplaying is having played the moments out before. Test your deck against all the decks you expect to play at an event, multiple times, and learn the right plays to do at the right time. Of course, you'll still face decks that you didn't expect, but if your deck can hold up against the bigger decks (which it should, or else why would you play it and expect to win?), it should be able to hold it's own against the majority of the rogue decks.

Good luck!
 
Perhaps you're playing your games to quickly.

Yes, POP rules state that games should be lively, but in my opinion, you should treat this game more like chess. Analyze the board extremely carefully, compare it with your hand, then just sit and think for a minute. You'll most likely have a lot less misplays than if you were to just rush through your turn.
 
or that your deck isn't strong enough. To be getting close to making the cut you can't be making lots of gameplay mistakes so I suspect that your deck might just not be good enough. Rogues can be good but they are more often bad: if you look at the results for USA nationals that appears to be the case at the moment.

The nearest we have to a rogue doing well right now is TTar Prime (apparently not rogue in Japan) and Torterra/Flygon
 
What kinds of mistakes are you making? Are you making the same types over and over? If so, try to develop strategies that will help you cut down on that type of misplay.

I'm quite prone to misplays myself, and doing that has helped a lot.
 
MattPL said:
Perhaps you're playing your games to quickly.

Yes, POP rules state that games should be lively, but in my opinion, you should treat this game more like chess. Analyze the board extremely carefully, compare it with your hand, then just sit and think for a minute. You'll most likely have a lot less misplays than if you were to just rush through your turn.
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So you are telling him to slow play as the solution? I agree maybe playing slower is a solution IF he/she is playing really fast to begin with, BUT sitting there and analyzing the field for a whole minute is obvious slow play. Maybe do this in practice games where there is no time limit but don't use it in a tournament or anything where u have a time limit and can be called for slow playing.
 
Professor Elm said:
So you are telling him to slow play as the solution? I agree maybe playing slower is a solution IF he/she is playing really fast to begin with, BUT sitting there and analyzing the field for a whole minute is obvious slow play. Maybe do this in practice games where there is no time limit but don't use it in a tournament or anything where u have a time limit and can be called for slow playing.
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There's a difference between playing slowly/carefully and slow playing. I don't see anything wrong with taking a minute to think about your move before you act, especially if you can easily make a misplay that your opponent will not allow you to take back.

BTW, analyzing the field, in my opinion, is not slow play. Searching your deck for 1 minute is slow play.
 
Why can't you analyse the field while your opponent is having their turn? You should be doing that all the time anyway.

Just sitting there for a minute doing nothing is slow play and your opponent will/should call a judge.

One of the things that annoys me is when people say 'I am naturally a slow/careful player, so I need more time on my turns'. Sorry, the rule is the same for everyone - you play at a lively pace - you don't get more time than your opponent does because of your self-declared style of play.
 
I really don't think it has anything to do with playing too quickly. And as others have said, don't expect to get away with playing slow just because you don't want to misplay.

I think making the wrong plays just comes from a lack of experience, as I said before. I don't mean that everyone has an answer for everything, but the better players don't make as many mistakes primarly (imo), because they have played that scenario out before, whether in tournament play or playtesting. Play the matches more and you'll get more comfortable with what you should and shouldn't do.

It should also be noted that there are games where you'll simply be outplayed, outsped, or outlucked. It happens.
 
baby mario said:
Why can't you analyse the field while your opponent is having their turn? You should be doing that all the time anyway.

Just sitting there for a minute doing nothing is slow play and your opponent will/should call a judge.

One of the things that annoys me is when people say 'I am naturally a slow/careful player, so I need more time on my turns'. Sorry, the rule is the same for everyone - you play at a lively pace - you don't get more time than your opponent does because of your self-declared style of play.
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I didn't say you weren't doing anything. YOU'RE ANALYZING THE FIELD! You're comparing to your hand and thinking about decisions.

I have trouble analyzing the field during my opponenets turn because they're usually playing pretty quickly, and it can be hard to keep up at times. It's much easier at the start of your turn.

Besides, I've done this is plenty of my matches and no one has ever complained of me slow playing and had to call a judge.

You guys don't have to like it, but it's what I do and it works.

kwisdumb said:
It should also be noted that there are games where you'll simply be outplayed, outsped, or outlucked. It happens.
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Agreed.
 
I can understand that you want to take your time in making a decision, but there are still guidelines in place. Surely you should be alloted more time if the board is complicated and you need the time to make the decision, but if you're consistently looking at the field making no action for a minute, your opponent will probably call a judge. Of course, that may not necessarily be a bad thing as the judge may rule that you're indeed not slowplaying, but I wouldn't count on it.
 
MattPL said:
I didn't say you weren't doing anything. YOU'RE ANALYZING THE FIELD! You're comparing to your hand and thinking about decisions.

I have trouble analyzing the field during my opponenets turn because they're usually playing pretty quickly, and it can be hard to keep up at times. It's much easier at the start of your turn.

Besides, I've done this is plenty of my matches and no one has ever complained of me slow playing and had to call a judge.

You guys don't have to like it, but it's what I do and it works.
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It doesn't matter if we like it or not. Check the rules. Taking a minute without making any plays will get you penalties in a major tournament.

Penalty Guidelines said:
In general, the following time limits for various game actions should be appropriate. The times given below are general guidelines; players attempting to compartmentalize their turn in order to use every second of the time allowed for the items below are almost certainly stalling and should be subject to the Unsporting Conduct: Severe penalties.
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Performing the actions of a card or attack: 15 seconds
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Shuffling and setup, game start: 2 minutes
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Shuffling and deck search, mid‐game: 15 seconds
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Starting the turn after opponent’s “end of turn” announcement: 5 seconds
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Considering the game position before playing a card: 10 seconds

7.4.1. Slow Play
Players should take care to play in a manner that keeps the game pace brisk, regardless of the complexity of the situation. A player who takes too long to make decisions about game play runs the risk of putting his or her opponent at a disadvantage due to the round’s time limit. In addition to the recommended penalty, the judge may issue a time extension to offset this disadvantage.
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I bolded the parts that are especially relevant.
 
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