Gyrados: Big Fish.

[gallade]

This is basically a deck i am making, a warm up before i post a submission for it to be front paged. any help to the article along with the deck is greatly appreciated. Thank you!

When the smoke cleared and the worlds top cut was finished, there was an odd spot. Coming in 5th place was, yes you heard right, gyarados. The deck was dismissed as a theme deck when it came out, and was never looked upon, until now. The deck is about trying to do 90 for nothing, fast. It could accomplish this fast, and easy. It had masterful recovery, speed, power, and set up. What more could you ask for? Here is a basic list that will hopefully make clearer the idea of this odd, but good deck.

Gyarados

19 pokemon
4-3 gyarados. (both SF)
1-1 claydol
1 uxie
1 azelf
3 crobat
4 sableye
1 regice

32 trainers
4 roseannes
3 bebe's
4 poketurn
4 pokemon resque
2 time and space distortions
4 felicity
4 broken time space
2 warp point
1 devoluter
4 SSU

9 energy
3 call
2 sp. Dark
2 cyclone energy
1 psychic
1 dark
the main strategy is to discard all of your magikarps so that you can be doing 90 damage, for no energy. With a BTS and a gyarados and a pokemon rescue, you can get another gyrados, every turn, for a long time. This deck defies the weakness's affect on decks, as luxray is not a bad machup.
Speaking of, here is, IMO the machups. Let me know if you want me to test some more.

Blazeray: 60/40, your favor.
The luxrays kill your claydol, but, by turn 4, you do not need him, you can 1 shot them easily with a bat-turn, and you just recover to much for them to handle. and even with 2 magikarps in the discard, you can kill blaziken lvx, 1 if they jet shoot.

Flygon: 60/40 your favor.
if they play BTS, this machup is almost an auto win, you can out speed them, out number them, out power them, out set up them, and even more. But if they are smart and make you play the bts, you will have to rely on warp energy to kill there bench, and get rid of sand walls effect.

MORE MACHUPS TO COME!!!!!

 

[p i k a c h u]

This is basically a deck i am making, a warm up before i post a submission for it to be front paged. any help to the article along with the deck is greatly appreciated. Thank you!

When the smoke cleared and the worlds top cut was finished, there was an odd spot. Coming in 5th place was, yes you heard right, gyarados. The deck was dismissed as a theme deck when it came out, and was never looked upon, until now. The deck is about trying to do 90 for nothing, fast. It could accomplish this fast, and easy. It had masterful recovery, speed, power, and set up. What more could you ask for? Here is a basic list that will hopefully make clearer the idea of this odd, but good deck.

Gyarados

20 pokemon
4-3 gyarados. (both SF)
1-1 claydol
2 uxie
1 azelf
3 crobat
3 sableye
1 registeel
1 toxipromo

31 trainers
4 roseannes
2 bebe's
3 poketurn
4 pokemon resque
2 time and space distortions
3 felicity
4 broken time space
2 warp point
4 pokedrawer
1 devoluter
1 cynthias feelings
1 vs. seeker

9 energy
4 call
2 sp. Dark
2 warp energy
1 psychic

the main strategy is to discard all of your magikarps so that you can be doing 90 damage, for no energy. With a BTS and a gyarados and a pokemon rescue, you can get another gyrados, every turn, for a long time. This deck defies the weakness's affect on decks, as luxray is not a bad machup.
Speaking of, here is, IMO the machups. Let me know if you want me to test some more.

Blazeray: 60/40, your favor.
The luxrays kill your claydol, but, by turn 4, you do not need him, you can 1 shot them easily with a bat-turn, and you just recover to much for them to handle. and even with 2 magikarps in the discard, you can kill blaziken lvx, 1 if they jet shoot.

Flygon: 60/40 your favor.
if they play BTS, this machup is almost an auto win, you can out speed them, out number them, out power them, out set up them, and even more. But if they are smart and make you play the bts, you will have to rely on warp energy to kill there bench, and get rid of sand walls effect.

MORE MACHUPS TO COME!!!!!

go gyarados!lol k so i like it but fr the blazeray um luxray x will kill u run bubble coat or whatever its called exploud ect...no weakness yeah!

 

[gallade]

i do not think that bubble coat/explaod is really necessary:
A. they cannot even 1-shot you
B. you can recover up to 7 gyarados
C. blaziken is a joke against this deck, it is like giving Bill Gates a tenner to go buy lunch.

 

[nnaann]

This deck was looked upon before Worlds you know, Fabien won French Nationals with it months before.

 

[Deoxys Cool Form]

go gyarados!lol k so i like it but fr the blazeray um luxray x will kill u run bubble coat or whatever its called exploud ect...no weakness yeah!

Thats why he plays Croak G Promo...

They one shot you WITH Lucario so one shot them back. You just need a Crobat and a Poketurn or a Bucks etc.

@ Gallade

And yeah this deck was looked at before Worlds. Won French Nats you know.

 

[p i k a c h u]

Thats why he plays Croak G Promo...

They one shot you WITH Lucario so one shot them back. You just need a Crobat and a Poketurn or a Bucks etc.

@ Gallade

And yeah this deck was looked at before Worlds. Won French Nats you know.

i know just ideas also yeah i agree with the crobat,poketurn,and bucks didnt notice he wasnt playing them:
this is my deck u can get ideas of of it if u want

gyarados

pokemon:20
4-4 gyarados sf/sf
3 sableye sf
1 regice la
1-1 claydol ge/ge
1 azelf la
1 toxicroak g promo
1 uxie la
2 crobat g pl
1 pachirisu ge

trainers:31
3 roseannes research
3 bebes serch
4 pokemon rescue
1 cynthias feelings
4 super scoop up
1 night maintence
2 luxury ball
4 broken time space
4 felicitys drawing
2 poketurn
2 bucks training
1 switch

energy:9
2sychic:
4:water:
3 cyclone

well thats my deck

 

[skarmory777]

toxipromo toxipromo toxipromo. everyone is running this card when you don't need it. +30 to electric unless they have lake boundary or lucario gl. And even then, virtually any electric they get out you're going to be able to kill next turn because of gyarados recovery.

Warp energy? 2 warp point and Cyclone energies should be enough disruption.

 

[p i k a c h u]

toxipromo toxipromo toxipromo. everyone is running this card when you don't need it. +30 to electric unless they have lake boundary or lucario gl. And even then, virtually any electric they get out you're going to be able to kill next turn because of gyarados recovery.

Warp energy? 2 warp point and Cyclone energies should be enough disruption.

yeah everybody does play toxipromo gyarados and kingdra need it.

 

[corypoke2]

disagree...I've been running Gyrados and I've gotten 8th,13th and16th Place running without Toxi promo!!! Results like that don't lie :thumb:

-Cory

 

[p i k a c h u]

disagree...I've been running Gyrados and I've gotten 8th,13th and16th Place running without Toxi promo!!! Results like that don't lie :thumb:

-Cory

that preety cool but did u go against luxray,if so or if not toxicroak g promo helps try it unless you dont have it or something

 

[skarmory777]

disagree...I've been running Gyrados and I've gotten 8th,13th and16th Place running without Toxi promo!!! Results like that don't lie :thumb:

-Cory

Yeah I ran Gyarados and took 2nd and 3rd here in central florida. Didn't run toxipromo.

 

[gallade]

ok, has it made front page yet? i cannot tell, i think i will get rid of toxipromo.

 

[jirachinick]

Just an idea, but what about a floatzel gl Level X tech? If you set it up, Gyrados just stays out there, so it's not hard to set him up, it could work

 

[MrMeches]

Biggest worry is the lack of Unown G. I know in North Texas, everyone that played this G'ed their Claydol or it was Gengar Bait! Without Claydol, it is difficult to cycle the Recovery for Dos!

Fish

 

[iSHYNE]

your odds of sableye starts are 1 out of 6 starts, you need 4, and 4 special darks will give you autowins against gengar, kingdra, flygon, and bedrill. Claydol is too slow, and useless because you will have 7+ cards by turn 3 if you execute correctly. devoluting SPs are useless, just hit for 90, its easier and it gets prizes faster. call energy is a 4 or 0 card. run 4 if you are scared of lone magikarp starts. 2 bats, pluspower, and poketurns is what you need. not 3 benched bats when power sprays and gengars are all too common. 1 psychic energy? atleast attach it to promocroak. Luxery Ball = Free pokemon.

 

[nnaann]

With No Unown G, Flygon with Memory Berry is just gonna deck you out and discard all Pokemon Rescue - with No Unown G you're gonna gonna get wrecked by this and Gengar

 

[nnaann]

ok, has it made front page yet? i cannot tell, i think i will get rid of toxipromo.

You'd have to do alot more work to get this onto the Front Page. Good Grammar, go over each card in detail, add more matchups etc.

 

[gallade]

ok, i did not think i would get bashed this much, if you actually read my first post, i said this would be a warm up, this obviously is not my best work, not what I am going to submit, and not what i think is front page worthy. Thank you if you actually submitted actual advice to my post. I will add unown g.

You'd have to do alot more work to get this onto the Front Page. Good Grammar, go over each card in detail, add more matchups etc.

i what i meant is that had a gyarados list already gone onto the front page?

 

[TheGeneral]

Gyarados

20 pokemon
4-4 gyarados. (both SF)
1-1 claydol
2 uxie
1 azelf
3 crobat
3 sableye
1 registeel

31 trainers
4 roseannes
2 bebe's
3 poketurn
4 pokemon resque
2 time and space distortions
3 felicity
4 broken time space
2 warp point
4 pokedrawer
1 devoluter
1 cynthias feelings
1 vs. seeker

9 energy
4 call
2 sp. Dark
2 warp energy
1 psychic

no need to have registeel when theres regice--
regice has:

1 less retreat
better weakness than registeel
regi-move is VITAL against your mime match-up (especially when you have no warps/cyclone energy)
if your opponent sends up an uxie for you to KO while they set-up their bench, it helps disrupt that.
regi-move is better than regi-heal especially because whether you use regi-heal or not, gengar still 2-shots you...and at least you get a sweet power to use instead of healing.

also...

I'd personally run less call energy as well....well, less energy all together. no need for 4 call. your goal is to start with sableye & impersonate, not call energy.

Add unown g for obvious reasons

bump up sableye to 4, your deck relies on starting with him

-1 uxie, takes up bench space. Also, considering youll have about 6-10 cards in your hand at all times, no need for uxie except in the beginning.

+1 poke turn (b/c when you rely on getting +10 or 20 damage for KO's, itll be nice to have another 'turn)

+1 felicitys (dump cards you dont need, magikarps into discard faster, etc.)

+1 luxury ball....cuz ya know....it helps getting pokemon out.....

wheres your bucks training? do you expect everything you hit to have only 90-100 hp? theres nothing like a bat drop/turn/drop/bucks/tail revenge for 120. and since you run 3 turn and no bucks, youll have OHKO'ing issues (which, ya know, is gyarados' thing)

one last thing...WHERE ARE YOUR SUPER SCOOP UP?! have you ever actually used a gyarados deck before? So for example, you time walk....3 magikarp are prized (happened to me twice)....and then what? azelf sits on the bench until he gets KO'd in which you waste a rescue, time walk, then theres still one prized. SSU are so vital to this deck its ridiculous. also, ive had late games where my opponent is 20hp from KO'ing me, I SSU, put down karp, BTS, gyarados, retreat my bat, 130hp monster back into active. sick.

anyways, hope this helped.

 

[milotic101]

i feel the same way i like regice more