Hardest Area To Play
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, but getting 1st or 2nd place doesn't make it the hardest area per say.
NoPoke
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QFT. Even if every entrant is world class and of identical skill playing exactly the same deck one of them is going to come dead last and one of them will be crowned winner.
Whilst it is true that 1st and 2nds dont tell you everything about any area being unable to get a top place does tell you that the area is hard for you as a player.
It is only when you have isolation and lack of mixing that it is possible for one area to become "stronger" or "harder" than another. Personally I blame Darwin!
ryanvergel
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Places do this, though. Besides Floridians, almost no one outside of FL participates in FL events. This leads to an isolated community that can "evolve" and develop a distinct style, metagame, skill level- as chuck pointed out, you can even see different deckbuilding styles or metagame choices based on regionality.
I really do think some places are easier to play/win in than other. There are, however, lots of great players wherever you go, so most tournaments aren't exactly easy.
Absoltrainer
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Having the most players with the best records is IMO not a good way to judge it.
The best way would to find a place in which NO SINGLE person won 2 events in a row. If the wins are not constant by a group of players then that area is the hardest. Areas where you can see the same people win events each year are not nessasarly harder. Because then, there is a more definded group and thus a smaller chance of battling one of those people in a match. If an area has no definded group and no one is constantly winning all the time, then there is a much larger group of people, all of equal skill and thus a larger chance of facing one of those people.
just a logical theory
The best way would to find a place in which NO SINGLE person won 2 events in a row. If the wins are not constant by a group of players then that area is the hardest. Areas where you can see the same people win events each year are not nessasarly harder. Because then, there is a more definded group and thus a smaller chance of battling one of those people in a match. If an area has no definded group and no one is constantly winning all the time, then there is a much larger group of people, all of equal skill and thus a larger chance of facing one of those people.
just a logical theory
Diaz
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It's fairly difficult to lump large areas together. In the North East, for example, I played against PA and NY players. These two areas, which are very close together, and are often considered the same area, had different metagames. Few players played in both areas, so there were two very different metagames.
SlimeyGrimey
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That actually doesn't work. If you have a tournament with 18 particpants and they're all using the Zap! theme deck, you're going to have a different winner every time, but it would obviously be really easy to win if you came here and played a legitimate deck. Just because the players are of equal skill doesn't mean they're good. :wink:
Lots of talk..... Lots of opinions.... But until your have them all lock horns that's all it is.... Put your money where your mouth is if you're claiming one way or the other.... If you can tell who your major players are in each division how about throwing down a US regional tournament at some place like Nationals.... I doubt seriously if something like that can be done with so many players minds being on the big prize that weekend....
Unless every person plays the same amount of games in the exact same tournaments, to say your region is "DA PLACE TO BE" based on rating points or whatever is crazy. Number of tourneys, type of tourneys.... too many variables.... At one point this year my name sat one spot behind a "Bangin" Illinois legend, and I'm not in the top one-zillion in poke talent... So ratings points don't hold all the cards....
To the guy that mentioned a shout out for the Missouri Juniors.... I can bear witness to that.... Last name - Hathaway... Last time I saw him he was sporting so many poke medals around his neck he made Mr. T look like a lightweight in the jewelry dept... All the kid needs is a mohawk and a deeper voice so he can say "I pity the fool" and he'll be set..... TRUST ME!!! That kid sports a trail of destruction behind him.... And heads drop when they get paired against him....
Unless every person plays the same amount of games in the exact same tournaments, to say your region is "DA PLACE TO BE" based on rating points or whatever is crazy. Number of tourneys, type of tourneys.... too many variables.... At one point this year my name sat one spot behind a "Bangin" Illinois legend, and I'm not in the top one-zillion in poke talent... So ratings points don't hold all the cards....
To the guy that mentioned a shout out for the Missouri Juniors.... I can bear witness to that.... Last name - Hathaway... Last time I saw him he was sporting so many poke medals around his neck he made Mr. T look like a lightweight in the jewelry dept... All the kid needs is a mohawk and a deeper voice so he can say "I pity the fool" and he'll be set..... TRUST ME!!! That kid sports a trail of destruction behind him.... And heads drop when they get paired against him....
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Well.... I wasnt gonna respond to this topic as it has been beaten to death many time already. However, this comment induced me to respond....
Nearly EVERYONE is ahead of me this year. Including those who are much like yourself, not in the top one-zillion in poke talent... I will agree that rankings have zero to do with actual playing ability. I would however love to take you up on the money where your mouth is deal.
I have played in 3 events all year. 2 states and 1 city, all of which I spent my time trying to figure out how to beat the metagame. In the last rounds of swiss I was put into positions where I was ranked lower than my opponent. With no chance of making the cut over my opponents, I choose to do the honorable thing and scoop to them. Does that reflect in my rating? YES! Is it shown on paper what happened? NO.
So, back to the issue at hand....
I feel that you cant determine the BEST place to play is via rankings... I can tell you that you can look into any particular area for the BIG NAMES and detemine how difficult the metagame is. I will give examples below...
When I think of Cali.... TRUK, Chad, Carl, Martin all come to mind immediatly....
Florida.... Team R... Steve and pops, Eric,
Ohio.... Fulop, Seena, Drew, Tom
Illinois... Me, Jason, Alex,
Wisconsin... Pooka, Celio twins
New york.... Magnechu, Daddy. ummmm you get the point.....
Obviously I missed a TON of huge names.... But as you can see, these names will generally keep people from INVADING a certain area.
I can say this for SURE.... If you see many players coming from 100+ miles away when they have another option much closer to them. Generally that means you have a POOR player base and it makes it more appealing to the top tier player to go in and take from you what they feel you do not deserve.
The truth stings, but it is what it is....
Jimmy
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Serebii1997J
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What I think is this. I agree with Jimmy, and it is true that if you can see you have weak player base with people coming this whole way. Look at Thomas A. He came to NY States, instead of MA that day, eventually taking me down in Finals. Think about it. He lives is MA. And he came to NY. Instead of a 20 minute drive, his family drove 4 hours to New York. This probably shows that they think NY is easier. If you have people coming 4 hours or 5 hours just to go to a State Championships, something is wrong. That shows that your division is weak in that area. Thomas A. probably knew that NY's Jrs are pretty bad (No offense guys). The only good Jr that I truly think is good is Peter F. Look at our rankings. Normally, I don't take this into account, but this can really show something.
1 Peter Fouchet 1821.72 JR NY US
2 Aaron Zheng 1708.62 JR NY US
3 Mathew T 1695.15 JR NY US
4 Aaron_C 1663.38 JR NY US
5 pslowxzs 1623.85 JR NY US
6 Not Opted Into Rankings 1604.13 JR NY US
7 Nicholas Florida 1602.40 JR NY US
8 Not Opted Into Rankings 1600.00 JR NY US
9 xkgibeej 1599.85 JR NY US
10 Not Opted Into Rankings 1596.05 JR NY US
Rank Name Rating Age Div State Country
11 JustinLee12800 1595.91 JR NY US
12 Not Opted Into Rankings 1593.42 JR NY US
13 eirqfhxt 1592.00 JR NY US
14 Not Opted Into Rankings 1588.00 JR NY US
15 Not Opted Into Rankings 1587.19 JR NY US
16 David Chu 1586.44 JR NY US
17 Spencer P 1585.42 JR NY US
18 Not Opted Into Rankings 1584.93 JR NY US
19 John Chimento 1576.06 JR NY US
20 Ross McCrann 1555.31 JR NY US
Look at that. The Top 4 are the mentionable ones, and everyone is horrible. Compare this to MA:
1 Thomas Arena 1858.07 JR MA US
2 ryojskrj 1835.48 JR MA US
3 Mark G 1771.04 JR MA US
4 Furroshi 1701.19 JR MA US
5 Marc M 1647.75 JR MA US
6 Rebecca Arena 1611.73 JR MA US
7 mjhornet 1610.32 JR MA US
8 Francesco G 1604.59 JR MA US
9 Not Opted Into Rankings 1600.00 JR MA US
10 Not Opted Into Rankings 1599.55 JR MA US
Sure, they're not too hot either. but look at their top 2. In the 1800's. Thomas knew MA would be harder. He chose NY, since he almost probably knew he was going to win.
~Serebii1997 "Aaron Zheng"
1 Peter Fouchet 1821.72 JR NY US
2 Aaron Zheng 1708.62 JR NY US
3 Mathew T 1695.15 JR NY US
4 Aaron_C 1663.38 JR NY US
5 pslowxzs 1623.85 JR NY US
6 Not Opted Into Rankings 1604.13 JR NY US
7 Nicholas Florida 1602.40 JR NY US
8 Not Opted Into Rankings 1600.00 JR NY US
9 xkgibeej 1599.85 JR NY US
10 Not Opted Into Rankings 1596.05 JR NY US
Rank Name Rating Age Div State Country
11 JustinLee12800 1595.91 JR NY US
12 Not Opted Into Rankings 1593.42 JR NY US
13 eirqfhxt 1592.00 JR NY US
14 Not Opted Into Rankings 1588.00 JR NY US
15 Not Opted Into Rankings 1587.19 JR NY US
16 David Chu 1586.44 JR NY US
17 Spencer P 1585.42 JR NY US
18 Not Opted Into Rankings 1584.93 JR NY US
19 John Chimento 1576.06 JR NY US
20 Ross McCrann 1555.31 JR NY US
Look at that. The Top 4 are the mentionable ones, and everyone is horrible. Compare this to MA:
1 Thomas Arena 1858.07 JR MA US
2 ryojskrj 1835.48 JR MA US
3 Mark G 1771.04 JR MA US
4 Furroshi 1701.19 JR MA US
5 Marc M 1647.75 JR MA US
6 Rebecca Arena 1611.73 JR MA US
7 mjhornet 1610.32 JR MA US
8 Francesco G 1604.59 JR MA US
9 Not Opted Into Rankings 1600.00 JR MA US
10 Not Opted Into Rankings 1599.55 JR MA US
Sure, they're not too hot either. but look at their top 2. In the 1800's. Thomas knew MA would be harder. He chose NY, since he almost probably knew he was going to win.
~Serebii1997 "Aaron Zheng"
My bad....
uh.... no! I couldn't beat you if we played 100 times.... I was just stating that rankings only mean so much...
And the "money where your mouth is" comment was to everyone that's bringing the my area RULES to the table.... I'd love to see the top players slug it out for braging rights.... I just play it with my kids... I'd like to be where you upper tier players are.... but I'm still in the learning stages....
no disrespect intended....
uh.... no! I couldn't beat you if we played 100 times.... I was just stating that rankings only mean so much...
And the "money where your mouth is" comment was to everyone that's bringing the my area RULES to the table.... I'd love to see the top players slug it out for braging rights.... I just play it with my kids... I'd like to be where you upper tier players are.... but I'm still in the learning stages....
no disrespect intended....
meganium45
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Jerry, this is pokemon.
You would win 6 out of 100 times. That is the statistical luck factor.
6 times Jimmy would get "stuck" hands.
3 of those times he would flip the table.
1 of those times he would cry. (The table would hit him)
Vince
You would win 6 out of 100 times. That is the statistical luck factor.
6 times Jimmy would get "stuck" hands.
3 of those times he would flip the table.
1 of those times he would cry. (The table would hit him)
Vince
No matter what, people are always going to want to say that their area is the best one. That's a natural thing. But you have to really go in and see just how many events people are playing in each year, how long they've been playing, and if they have any accomplishments that they have made. I was new to the game last year. Yes, I played back when wizards was in charge, and quit around Neo Genesis. But I came back into the game with the Crystal Guardians Prerelease being my first event. I played in a lot of events that year, and got my feet wet in judging. The whole year, I made one cities top cut, and lost to Fulop in top cut 1st round. I ran Feralqueen, and he was running Metanite. I took 6th in that event, and that was the only thing I had that season. My rating at the end of the season was a 1622. This year has been drastically different for me. I top cut and got 2nd place in two battle roads, and got 4th place in two cities. I was also 3 spots shy of making top cut at Great Lakes Regionals this year....WITHOUT running Gardylade. I'm standing on a 1649 rating right now, but I don't really care about that. Seeing the accomplishments I've made this year has made me very proud. I play for fun, not to win. If I do well, then I do well, whatever. My rating will probably stay the same until the end of the season since I'm on nats staff this year. To me, people are so flustered over ratings, and how much better their area is than someone else's. Don't you guys think that you should take some time to examine yourself as a player? This game was meant to be fun, not to pit everyone against each other in a battle for the best region.
pokeMATHter
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I find the hardest place to play is on airplanes. It is nearly impossible to fit your bench on that little tray. The dice keep falling on the floor, and if you reach for them, you usually end up dumping your deck on the floor as well. Then the flight attendent comes by with the peanuts and soda. How are you going to fit them on your tray too???
It was also tough playing at the Spring Battle Road in Auburn last year. We got kicked out of the building, and played in the park. It was cold and really windy. Judge! The wind just scattered my my deck across the park! What do I do now?
David
It was also tough playing at the Spring Battle Road in Auburn last year. We got kicked out of the building, and played in the park. It was cold and really windy. Judge! The wind just scattered my my deck across the park! What do I do now?
David
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Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a WINNER!
Chromecatz
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The hardest area to play is obv south florida.
Umbreon777
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lol, I was the only 4-1 not to make cut. :nonono:
I laughed for about 5 minutes after reading this. Thank you for brightening my day
Guys, Steve already won this thread. As in, thank you all for posting, see you all at the next discussion.
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