Magic_Umbreon
Researching Tower Scientist, Retired
Dex Numbering
My prediction for the Johto pokédex numbering is as follows; new prevolutions included but not new evolutions. This is because it would allow for breeding to occur at goldenrod, the logical point, without pokémon like Marill giving erratic or unnumbered eggs. Bold = confirmed, Italic underline = new.
#1 Chikorita
#2 Bayleef
#3 Meganium
#4 Cyndaquil
#5 Quilava
#6 Typhlosion
#7 Totodile
#8 Croconaw
#9 Feraligatr
#10 Pidgey
#11 Pidgeotto
#12 Pidgeot
#13 Spearow
#14 Fearow
#15 Hoothoot
#16 Noctowl
#17 Rattata
#18 Raticate
#19 Sentret
#20 Furret
#21 Pichu
#22 Pikachu
#23 Raichu
#24 Caterpie
#25 Metapod
#26 Butterfree
#27 Weedle
#28 Kakuna
#29 Beedrill
#30 Ledyba
#31 Ledian
#32 Spinarak
#33 Ariados
#34 Geodude
#35 Graveler
#36 Golem
#37 Zubat
#38 Golbat
#39 Crobat
#40 Cleffa
#41 Clefairy
#42 Clefable
#43 Igglybuff
#44 Jigglypuff
#45 Wigglytuff
#46 Togepi
#47 Togetic
#48 Sandshrew
#49 Sandslash
#50 Ekans
#51 Arbok
#52 Dunsparce
#53 Mareep
#54 Flaaffy
#55 Ampharos
#56 Wooper
#57 Quagsire
#58 Gastly
#59 Haunter
#60 Gengar
#61 Unown
#62 Onix
#63 Steelix
#64 Bellsprout
#65 Weepinbell
#66 Victreebel
#67 Hoppip
#68 Skiploom
#69 Jumpluff
#70 Paras
#71 Parasect
#72 Poliwag
#73 Poliwhirl
#74 Poliwrath
#75 Politoed
#76 Magikarp
#77 Gyarados
#78 Goldeen
#79 Seaking
#80 Slowpoke
#81 Slowbro
#82 Slowking
#83 Oddish
#84 Gloom
#85 Vileplume
#86 Bellossom
#87 Drowzee
#88 Hypno
#89 Abra
#90 Kadabra
#91 Alakazam
#92 Ditto
#93 Pineco
#94 Forretress
#95 Nidoran (f)
#96 Nidorina
#97 Nidoqueen
#98 Nidoran (m)
#99 Nidorino
#100 Nidoking
#101 Yanma
#102 Sunkern
#103 Sunflora
#104 Exeggcute
#105 Exeggutor
#106 Bonsly
#107 Sudowoodo
#108 Wynaut
#109 Wobbuffet
#110 Venonat
#111 Venomoth
#112 Scyther
#113 Scizor
#114 Pinsir
#115 Heracross
#116 Koffing
#117 Weezing
#118 Grimer
#119 Muk
#120 Magnemite
#121 Magneton
#122 Voltorb
#123 Electrode
#124 Aipom
#125 Snubbull
#126 Granbull
#127 Vulpix
#128 Ninetales
#129 Growlithe
#130 Arcanine
#131 Stantler
#132 Azurill
#133 Marill
#134 Azumarill
#135 Diglett
#136 Dugtrio
#137 Mankey
#138 Primeape
#139 Meowth
#140 Persian
#141 Psyduck
#142 Golduck
#143 Machop
#144 Machoke
#145 Machamp
#146 Tyrogue
#147 Hitmonlee
#148 Hitmonchan
#149 Hitmontop
#150 Girafarig
#151 Tauros
#152 Miltank
#153 Magby
#154 Magmar
#155 Smoochum
#156 Jynx
#157 Elekid
#158 Electabuzz
#159 Mime Jr.
#160 Mr. Mime
#161 Smeargle
#162 Farfetch'd
#163 Natu
#164 Xatu
#165 Qwilfish
#166 Tentacool
#167 Tentacruel
#168 Krabby
#169 Kingler
#170 Shuckle
#171 Staryu
#172 Starmie
#173 Shellder
#174 Cloyster
#175 Corsola
#176 Remoraid
#177 Octillery
#178 Chinchou
#179 Lanturn
#180 Seel
#181 Dewgong
#182 Lickitung
#183 Tangela
#184 Eevee
#185 Vaporeon
#186 Jolteon
#187 Flareon
#188 Espeon
#189 Umbreon
#190 Horsea
#191 Seadra
#192 Kingdra
#193 Gligar
#194 Delibird
#195 Swinub
#196 Piloswine
#197 Teddiursa
#198 Ursaring
#199 Phanpy
#200 Donphan
#201 Mantine
#202 Skarmory
#203 Doduo
#204 Dodrio
#205 Ponyta
#206 Rapidash
#207 Cubone
#208 Marowak
#209 Kangaskhan
#210 Rhyhorn
#211 Rhydon
#212 Murkrow
#213 Houndour
#214 Houndoom
#215 Slugma
#216 Magcargo
#217 Sneasel
#218 Misdreavus
#219 Porygon
#220 Porygon2
#221 Happiny
#222 Chansey
#223 Blissey
#224 Lapras
#225 Omanyte
#226 Omastar
#227 Kabuto
#228 Kabutops
#229 Aerodactyl
#230 Munchlax
#231 Snorlax
#232 Bulbasaur
#233 Ivysaur
#234 Venusaur
#235 Charmander
#236 Charmeleon
#237 Charizard
#238 Squirtle
#239 Wartortle
#240 Blastoise
#241 Articuno
#242 Zapdos
#243 Moltres
#244 Raikou
#245 Entei
#246 Suicune
#247 Dratini
#248 Dragonair
#249 Dragonite
#250 Larvitar
#251 Pupitar
#252 Tyranitar
#253 Lugia
#254 Ho-oh
#255 Mewtwo
#256 Mew
#257 Celebi
#258 Arceus
Miscellanous Predictions
Mapping legendary frequencies one to one from DPPlatinum to HGSS:
3 Legendary Birds/Cresselia/Mesprit = Latias/Latios/3 dogs (5 roamers)
3 Regis = 3 birds (stationary trio)
Heatran = Kyogre/Groudon (additional legend)
Palkia/Dialga = Ho-oh/Lugia (box covers)
Giratina = Mewtwo (third uber)
Darkrai/Shaymin = Celebi/Jirachi (events)
Arceus (event on each)
I'm sure HGSS will continue the Platinum trend and be packed full of legendaries and incentives for competitive battlers, such as more exploitable breeding and easier IV checking.
My prediction for the Johto pokédex numbering is as follows; new prevolutions included but not new evolutions. This is because it would allow for breeding to occur at goldenrod, the logical point, without pokémon like Marill giving erratic or unnumbered eggs. Bold = confirmed, Italic underline = new.
#1 Chikorita
#2 Bayleef
#3 Meganium
#4 Cyndaquil
#5 Quilava
#6 Typhlosion
#7 Totodile
#8 Croconaw
#9 Feraligatr
#10 Pidgey
#11 Pidgeotto
#12 Pidgeot
#13 Spearow
#14 Fearow
#15 Hoothoot
#16 Noctowl
#17 Rattata
#18 Raticate
#19 Sentret
#20 Furret
#21 Pichu
#22 Pikachu
#23 Raichu
#24 Caterpie
#25 Metapod
#26 Butterfree
#27 Weedle
#28 Kakuna
#29 Beedrill
#30 Ledyba
#31 Ledian
#32 Spinarak
#33 Ariados
#34 Geodude
#35 Graveler
#36 Golem
#37 Zubat
#38 Golbat
#39 Crobat
#40 Cleffa
#41 Clefairy
#42 Clefable
#43 Igglybuff
#44 Jigglypuff
#45 Wigglytuff
#46 Togepi
#47 Togetic
#48 Sandshrew
#49 Sandslash
#50 Ekans
#51 Arbok
#52 Dunsparce
#53 Mareep
#54 Flaaffy
#55 Ampharos
#56 Wooper
#57 Quagsire
#58 Gastly
#59 Haunter
#60 Gengar
#61 Unown
#62 Onix
#63 Steelix
#64 Bellsprout
#65 Weepinbell
#66 Victreebel
#67 Hoppip
#68 Skiploom
#69 Jumpluff
#70 Paras
#71 Parasect
#72 Poliwag
#73 Poliwhirl
#74 Poliwrath
#75 Politoed
#76 Magikarp
#77 Gyarados
#78 Goldeen
#79 Seaking
#80 Slowpoke
#81 Slowbro
#82 Slowking
#83 Oddish
#84 Gloom
#85 Vileplume
#86 Bellossom
#87 Drowzee
#88 Hypno
#89 Abra
#90 Kadabra
#91 Alakazam
#92 Ditto
#93 Pineco
#94 Forretress
#95 Nidoran (f)
#96 Nidorina
#97 Nidoqueen
#98 Nidoran (m)
#99 Nidorino
#100 Nidoking
#101 Yanma
#102 Sunkern
#103 Sunflora
#104 Exeggcute
#105 Exeggutor
#106 Bonsly
#107 Sudowoodo
#108 Wynaut
#109 Wobbuffet
#110 Venonat
#111 Venomoth
#112 Scyther
#113 Scizor
#114 Pinsir
#115 Heracross
#116 Koffing
#117 Weezing
#118 Grimer
#119 Muk
#120 Magnemite
#121 Magneton
#122 Voltorb
#123 Electrode
#124 Aipom
#125 Snubbull
#126 Granbull
#127 Vulpix
#128 Ninetales
#129 Growlithe
#130 Arcanine
#131 Stantler
#132 Azurill
#133 Marill
#134 Azumarill
#135 Diglett
#136 Dugtrio
#137 Mankey
#138 Primeape
#139 Meowth
#140 Persian
#141 Psyduck
#142 Golduck
#143 Machop
#144 Machoke
#145 Machamp
#146 Tyrogue
#147 Hitmonlee
#148 Hitmonchan
#149 Hitmontop
#150 Girafarig
#151 Tauros
#152 Miltank
#153 Magby
#154 Magmar
#155 Smoochum
#156 Jynx
#157 Elekid
#158 Electabuzz
#159 Mime Jr.
#160 Mr. Mime
#161 Smeargle
#162 Farfetch'd
#163 Natu
#164 Xatu
#165 Qwilfish
#166 Tentacool
#167 Tentacruel
#168 Krabby
#169 Kingler
#170 Shuckle
#171 Staryu
#172 Starmie
#173 Shellder
#174 Cloyster
#175 Corsola
#176 Remoraid
#177 Octillery
#178 Chinchou
#179 Lanturn
#180 Seel
#181 Dewgong
#182 Lickitung
#183 Tangela
#184 Eevee
#185 Vaporeon
#186 Jolteon
#187 Flareon
#188 Espeon
#189 Umbreon
#190 Horsea
#191 Seadra
#192 Kingdra
#193 Gligar
#194 Delibird
#195 Swinub
#196 Piloswine
#197 Teddiursa
#198 Ursaring
#199 Phanpy
#200 Donphan
#201 Mantine
#202 Skarmory
#203 Doduo
#204 Dodrio
#205 Ponyta
#206 Rapidash
#207 Cubone
#208 Marowak
#209 Kangaskhan
#210 Rhyhorn
#211 Rhydon
#212 Murkrow
#213 Houndour
#214 Houndoom
#215 Slugma
#216 Magcargo
#217 Sneasel
#218 Misdreavus
#219 Porygon
#220 Porygon2
#221 Happiny
#222 Chansey
#223 Blissey
#224 Lapras
#225 Omanyte
#226 Omastar
#227 Kabuto
#228 Kabutops
#229 Aerodactyl
#230 Munchlax
#231 Snorlax
#232 Bulbasaur
#233 Ivysaur
#234 Venusaur
#235 Charmander
#236 Charmeleon
#237 Charizard
#238 Squirtle
#239 Wartortle
#240 Blastoise
#241 Articuno
#242 Zapdos
#243 Moltres
#244 Raikou
#245 Entei
#246 Suicune
#247 Dratini
#248 Dragonair
#249 Dragonite
#250 Larvitar
#251 Pupitar
#252 Tyranitar
#253 Lugia
#254 Ho-oh
#255 Mewtwo
#256 Mew
#257 Celebi
#258 Arceus
Miscellanous Predictions
- Mewtwo will be catchable in Cerulean Cave
- A Kanto starter will be awarded as a prize from Oak in Kanto
- In Kanto, Latios will roam in Soul Silver, and Latias in heart gold.
- Kyogre will reside in Whirl Islands after Lugia is captured
- Groudon will reside in Burned Tower after Ho-oh
- Ho-oh/Groudon exclusive to Heart Gold, Lugia/Kyogre to Soul Silver
- Ilex forest and GS Ball will be an event
- Rayquaza will reside in an expanded Dragon's Den, connected to a Blackthorn storyline
- Jirachi will reside in some event island alone.
Mapping legendary frequencies one to one from DPPlatinum to HGSS:
3 Legendary Birds/Cresselia/Mesprit = Latias/Latios/3 dogs (5 roamers)
3 Regis = 3 birds (stationary trio)
Heatran = Kyogre/Groudon (additional legend)
Palkia/Dialga = Ho-oh/Lugia (box covers)
Giratina = Mewtwo (third uber)
Darkrai/Shaymin = Celebi/Jirachi (events)
Arceus (event on each)
I'm sure HGSS will continue the Platinum trend and be packed full of legendaries and incentives for competitive battlers, such as more exploitable breeding and easier IV checking.
