Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Hitmontop LA

Sabett

Sabett

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Why hasn't this guy gotten more attention? I mean it's a lot like gengar, albeit 20 less damage and without the power, but it's 100% searchable via Collector, it can abuse DCE, and can OHKO a luxray. Is it because of the 80 hp? That can be worked with though, there's bench shield and manetric, which wouldn't be all that hard to set up. I don't think it's ridiculous, but it definitely should be getting more notice.
 
Sabett said:
Why hasn't this guy gotten more attention? I mean it's a lot like gengar, albeit 20 less damage and without the power, but it's 100% searchable via Collector, it can abuse DCE, and can OHKO a luxray. Is it because of the 80 hp? That can be worked with though, there's bench shield and manetric, which wouldn't be all that hard to set up. I don't think it's ridiculous, but it definitely should be getting more notice.
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if im not mistaken, he has to evolve from tyrogue to switch with the bench
 
Well, for it to KO Luxray, you would either need e-belt and DCE and Figting Energy, or flip 3 heads. Of course there is Crobat G but the retreat cost for it isn't great and like you said, the 80HP really isn't enough. But I have to agree with the 'should be getting more notice' part.
 
Kurama said:
if im not mistaken, he has to evolve from tyrogue to switch with the bench
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Yes, that's correct, but since they're both basic, you can grab both with a pokemon collector, and evolve immediately, or you can even grab 2 tyrogues and a hitmontop, if you're anticipating a power spray.

Nintendan said:
Well, for it to KO Luxray, you would either need e-belt and DCE and Figting Energy, or flip 3 heads. Of course there is Crobat G but the retreat cost for it isn't great and like you said, the 80HP really isn't enough. But I have to agree with the 'should be getting more notice' part.
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I felt expert belt was implied, and I'm not seeing what the issue with crobat g. Retreat cost? I don't understand. Also, as I did mention the 80hp, I also talked about the ways to help that out.
 
I see your point. i know this sounds ridiculous, but maybe unown e? prevents the 2 prize loss, albeit 10 less hp and 20 less damage. Thats all i can think of atm
 
Kurama said:
I see your point. i know this sounds ridiculous, but maybe unown e? prevents the 2 prize loss, albeit 10 less hp and 20 less damage. Thats all i can think of atm
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Why wouldn't you just attach a bench shield?
 
The LA Hitmons have been made SO MUCH better with trainer/supporters of the last 3 sets.

The Hitmons are small, but they're like SPs without the SP Draw support! (So, I think many people just decide to go SP instead :/ )

The problem w/ the Hitmons is that they're a rush deck that needs to get a turn ahead and stay ahead! The deck get ROLLED-over if you whiff T1 - T2.

I'd like to see one of our HOPE deck players apply their engine to the Hitmons and see how it runs.

HOPE is pretty much set up perfectly to run Hitmons; you just switch out the SPs and toss in Hitmons.
 
^ I'll throw a list together and see how it goes.

EDIT: Actually, looking at Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan, they really don't have a whole lot going for them and don't gel terribly well with Hitmontop. One would be better off using Hitmontop on its own in a PAR-style deck, if you could find anything decent to switch in.
 
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This maybe be the first time a thread like this has come up and made me realize a viable card exsits.

Basic Cursegar that OHKO's Luxray and doesn't get toasted by T-tar. Why hasn't this thing been a crazy rogue yet? O:
 
My secret is out. D:

Im going to miss Mime, because he helped alot in this deck.
now i have to settle with Mewtwo and Spritomb.

Collector: Tyrou.ge x2 And a himontop.
Lay down Mime, attach Unknown Q, and its game.
 
LOL, I just thought of building a deck with this today. It definitely can work.

Alright, list. I had to restrain myself from putting in Base Set Hitmonchan reprint. I put in Dunsparce in case your opponent plays Mesprit and you can't evolve Tyrogue.

4-4 Hitmontop
3 Spiritomb
1-1 Mewtwo Lv. X
1-1 Shedinja
1 Dunsparce
3-1 Uxie Lv. X
2 Unown Q
21 Pokemon

4 Collector
2 Comm.
4 Bebe's
1 Luxury Ball
2 PONT
2 Judge
2 Expert Belt
1 Palmer's
2 Interviewer's
2 SSU
2 Pluspower
2 POV

1 Warp Energy
7 Fighting
3 DCE
2 Psychic
13 Energy

The list has some flaws, but it should do well. I'm wracking my brain trying think of walls right now, XD.
 
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Sabett said:
Yes, that's correct, but since they're both basic, you can grab both with a pokemon collector, and evolve immediately, or you can even grab 2 tyrogues and a hitmontop, if you're anticipating a power spray.

I felt expert belt was implied, and I'm not seeing what the issue with crobat g. Retreat cost? I don't understand. Also, as I did mention the 80hp, I also talked about the ways to help that out.
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What I meant is use it's second attack then Crobat G drop for the KO.
But even with the Bench Shield it's not completely safe because Flash Bite still hurts it.
And about the Retreat Cost, it's OK but not perfect. I was just talking about the retreat cost in my previous post.
 
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DonphanAtoZ said:
LOL, I just thought of building a deck with this today. It definitely can work.

Alright, list. I had to restrain myself from putting in Base Set Hitmonchan reprint. I put in Dunsparce in case your opponent plays Mesprit and you can't evolve Tyrogue.

4-4 Hitmontop
3 Spiritomb
1-1 Mewtwo Lv. X
1-1 Shedinja
1 Dunsparce
3-1 Uxie Lv. X
2 Unown Q
21 Pokemon

4 Collector
2 Comm.
4 Bebe's
1 Luxury Ball
2 PONT
2 Judge
2 Expert Belt
1 Palmer's
2 Interviewer's
2 SSU
2 Pluspower
2 POV

1 Warp Energy
7 Fighting
3 DCE
2 Psychic
13 Energy

The list has some flaws, but it should do well. I'm wracking my brain trying think of walls right now, XD.
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Nice. My friend and I ran a 40 card tourney this past friday night and Hitmontop PAR won the day. My son and I built it and it works really well.

I like your wall ideas...awesome job, man. We actually run a Shaymin UL 008 so we can drop it and move energy and bring up another fully powered one same turn, but I am definitely going to try your ideas. Well done.
 
Rogue Archetype said:
The LA Hitmons have been made SO MUCH better with trainer/supporters of the last 3 sets.

The Hitmons are small, but they're like SPs without the SP Draw support! (So, I think many people just decide to go SP instead :/ )

The problem w/ the Hitmons is that they're a rush deck that needs to get a turn ahead and stay ahead! The deck get ROLLED-over if you whiff T1 - T2.

I'd like to see one of our HOPE deck players apply their engine to the Hitmons and see how it runs.

HOPE is pretty much set up perfectly to run Hitmons; you just switch out the SPs and toss in Hitmons.
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Ok
4 tyrogue
2 hitmontop
2 hitmonlee
1 hitmonchan
3-1 uxie
4 bat
1-1 shedinja
2-1 mewtwo
2 mime
1 unown q

4 collector
4 communication
3 belt
2 bench shield
2 poketurn
4 warp
4 reversal
1 lux
2 plus power

4 dce
4 fighting

yay, fun-ness! i made this up in 10 seconds, so i apologize for all lack of win.
 
What would that be, Hatter? Anyways I was thinking Dunsparce because he uses Colorless and hits for SE on Garchomp C, but Shuppet works too.
 
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