Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

How do different decks kill Gothitelle?

darth_vader

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My guesses:

Reshiboar: Bad Boar, RDL

Typhlosion: I honestly have no idea. Reshiram would need a Pluspower, but that won't work because of the Goth.

MewBox: Mew Prime, because of weakness

ZPST: Again, no idea

Magneboar: Magnezone Prime

Stage 1s: Isn't this like an autoloss against Goth?
 
Reshiboar: Yep.
Phlosion: one of two ways.. Against a poor player, you can usually pin a Gothitelle up against the wall with "Flare Destroy". Another universal tech that works is Bellsprout, to drag up Reuniclus 1 turn, and KO it the next.
MewBox: Yeeppp. LZ Cinccino ftw
TZPS: Magby, to burn it followed by a 120 KO. Or Bellsprout. Or Raikou Suicune LEGEND.
Magneboar: Zone and BadBoar and RDL
Stage 1's: You lose.
 
Some decks try teching Magby and/or Bellsprout

Typhlosion can try and Flare Destroy until Goth runs too low on Energy (doesn't usually work if the Gothi player knows what they are doing)

ZPST and Stage 1s try and win by just blitzing Gothi's set up so it never gets going. Some Stage 1 variants use Mew (YMCA).

I guess Rocky Helmet is an option now, if you can drop it before Gothi hits the field.
 
Reshiboar: Yeah, Bad Boar or RDL (if you want to toss in energies to actually use it).

Tyram: Like BM said, Flare Destroy could be an option, or take early prizes to deny them setup, or use certain techs, or (crappy idea but it works) get the right amount of damage to outrage :p The outrage way is easier than it sounds, as you can up-damage with Afterburner.

MewBox: LZ a Pluff (or Cinno) as quick as possible, then get out a Muk to stall if you so desire. Yanmega is an option to Linear Attack their Solosis before they evolve them. Pretty much an auto-win for Mew.

ZPST: Try and screw up Goth's setup (donking is so easy. T1 DCE + PlusPower for the Outrage donk) or try to get the correct amount of damage on Zek to Outrage to OHKO Goth - again, crappy idea.

MagneBoar: Magnezone, RDL, Bad Boar. Pretty easy matchup since you can actually OHKO Goth.

Stage 1's: Like BM said, running Mew is an option. Also, simply outspeeding and destroying setup.

As other decks go...

Donphan/Dragons: Outspeed or get correct amount of damage on Dragons

The Truth: I honestly have no idea.

MegaZone: Try to snipe their setup early with Yanmega or just Lost Burn for massive damage and OHKO their Goth.

Techs: DCL is a tech that I have tried in DnD, but I guess it could work in other dechs that play Rainbow. Simply manipulate damage on their side to take prizes. preferably KOing their Reuniclus or Goths. Magby is a good option, basically to up the damage on Goth. Works well in most decks, honestly, as it's easily splashable. Bellsprout is something I've tried before, works better than Magby IMO, as it can let you KO those key Reuniclus off their bench. Gives you trouble if they have more than one Reuni benched though.

Black Belt is an option, but against extremely skilled Goth players they will just feed you prizes to nullify it's usage. Mew is another good idea, especially if you already run Cinno or something that can get 70 damage for little energy.
 
A nice tech I used in Tyram was Kingdra Prime. It helped get that "Plus Power" against Goth and it also worked against all the other decks too. Its an awesome baby killer. :D
 
i'm sorry but in the new format with the new set goth and reshi are absolutely horrible

Do you mean Gothitelle/clus and using the dragons with the deck is terrible? Because it's definately not.

@OP:

I run gothiclus with shaymin, jirachi, cleffa, and dragons.

If you want to counter Goth, go with Mewbox. It's probably the most challenging (with goth, b/c weakness) I've gone up against out of all of those.
 
Do you mean Gothitelle/clus and using the dragons with the deck is terrible? Because it's definately not.

@OP:

I run gothiclus with shaymin, jirachi, cleffa, and dragons.

If you want to counter Goth, go with Mewbox. It's probably the most challenging (with goth, b/c weakness) I've gone up against out of all of those.

This one guy I know in town also plats Goth with shaymin and dragons. He's pretty good.
 
I think he might have been referring to Mewtwo EX which will single-handedly take over the format after it's released and can knock out Gothitelle easily with only a DCE thanks to its first attack.
 
But Mewtwo is a basic that takes nothing to set up, Goth is a stage 2 that requires work.

I think that's the main problem with Goth. I played against it twice using a Cinccino rogue (no Mew, no Zoroark) and went 1-1. First time, I donked. Second time, I almost donked but I had a bad hand.

I think the way to kill Goth is to donk it before it gets going.
 
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