How many people here (US only, sorry) will vote in the upcoming presidential election
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LugiaCSC 04
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How bout we all vote for john kerry. especially in texas, california and new york/
NoTime4LoveDrJ
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That's what is really scaring me. There's been talk about "planned terrorist attacks to disrupt our elections"... And how this would cause us to postpone them.
Nobody is going to stand up and say anything, though, if this happens. Scary thought, indeed.
Nobody is going to stand up and say anything, though, if this happens. Scary thought, indeed.
I'm going to go out on a limb, and maybe I'm only speaking for myself here, but I really feel there's only one general thing to consider when picking who you're going to vote for... "Which canidate do I feel would do the best job representing me and leading the country".
If you fail to do this, then, IMHO, you're missing the entire point of the voting process.
If you fail to do this, then, IMHO, you're missing the entire point of the voting process.
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NoTime4LoveDrJ
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Yeah...
"Which one would do the best?" and not "None of them will do any good, so let's just do nothing at all!"
So you can pick the closest thing to a good candidate there is out of a pool of less than steller ones. At least you're actually voting. You seem very fed up to the point of not caring anymore, and while I feel where you're coming from, apathy isn't going to make the changes you may want. It's not much to ask of someone to vote. I could think of many things that took a lot more effort that were less worth it in the long run than voting. So if you can't tell yet, I'm asking you, "Why not just try, rather than do nothing?".
"Which one would do the best?" and not "None of them will do any good, so let's just do nothing at all!"
So you can pick the closest thing to a good candidate there is out of a pool of less than steller ones. At least you're actually voting. You seem very fed up to the point of not caring anymore, and while I feel where you're coming from, apathy isn't going to make the changes you may want. It's not much to ask of someone to vote. I could think of many things that took a lot more effort that were less worth it in the long run than voting. So if you can't tell yet, I'm asking you, "Why not just try, rather than do nothing?".
Nick15
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That also assumed that America is a full democracy. It's more of an elected dictatorship. We all know that Bush would, given a clear shot, find some crackpot "major threat" to America, then cancel elections and declare war.
Elected dictatorship? Riiiiiight. Your paranoia is shocking. :O
That also assumed that America is a full democracy. It's more of an elected dictatorship. We all know that Bush would, given a clear shot, find some crackpot "major threat" to America, then cancel elections and declare war.
Elected dictatorship? Riiiiiight. Your paranoia is shocking. :O
It's not really paranoia so much as it is a unique realism. Bush has the power to cancel elections and run the country indefinitely should there be a "threat" to America, real or imagined. Bush simply runs the country the way he wants to, and if the country he's running complains, well, sucks to their ***-mar.Nick15 said:
Bush is Jack, I tells ya, for those who've read Lord of the Flies.
Edit: Wow, they censor that? Heh, there goes some asterisks into a semi-famous literary quote...
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NoTime4LoveDrJ said:
Personally, I plan to go out and vote. Like I did last year, the year before that and the four years before that.
My opinion is simple
A) I completly understand why there are so many disenchanted voters in the US. The system is screwed up (between who's votes get counted and who's doesn't and which politician is more of a crook...), the answer to your "Why not just try, rather than do nothing?" is kinda like "Why not try to beat a BEX Deck with your deck of 59 Grass Energy cards and one Mysterious Fossil? It's better than doing nothing!"
B) If you're voting just to vote, if you don't know the issues (or, at least, the issues important to you), if you're voting for one canidate simply because you dislike the "other" canidate, if you are too stubbron to consider voting for a canidate who fits you better because this canidate isn't a "Democrat" or "Republican"... Well, you might as well stay home on election day (IMHO) because the voting process is wasted on people like this.
NoTime4LoveDrJ
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UncleBob said:
Yeah, I totally see the similarity there. One's a card game insignifigant in the face of world events, and the other is a decision on which course of action the world's only remaining superpower will take. Excellent comparison, there.
Geesh... The comparison is simply an analogy. Here, let's go with this...
"Why not try to beat an evil alien overlord who has a BEX Deck with your deck of 59 Grass Energy cards and one Mysterious Fossil? After all, if you loose, the evil alien overlord will destroy the planet. It's better than doing nothing!"
Evil alien overlords like Pokémon... Bet you didn't know that!
"Why not try to beat an evil alien overlord who has a BEX Deck with your deck of 59 Grass Energy cards and one Mysterious Fossil? After all, if you loose, the evil alien overlord will destroy the planet. It's better than doing nothing!"
Evil alien overlords like Pokémon... Bet you didn't know that!
Wow, this thread has really run the gamut.
How about this?
Do some research on the way each candidate listed here has voted or acted in the past on various issues that are important to you and vote for that person.
If that person turns out to be a third party candidate, then go with it. Vote for the person that you think is best for the job. If enough people did this year after year we would eventually start to get better and better candidates.
Some people consider a third party vote to be wasted. I think of it more as a vote for a better working democracy. We need more than two choices.
How about this?
Do some research on the way each candidate listed here has voted or acted in the past on various issues that are important to you and vote for that person.
If that person turns out to be a third party candidate, then go with it. Vote for the person that you think is best for the job. If enough people did this year after year we would eventually start to get better and better candidates.
Some people consider a third party vote to be wasted. I think of it more as a vote for a better working democracy. We need more than two choices.
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Skywolf1
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While my position on this matter, is far too extreme for the realms of this forum, I will share with you all, that George W. Bush, NEVER has had my support, and NEVER will have my support.
There is NO WAY in HELL, that I will advocate an individual who seeks to plunge this country into further political regression then George W. Bush.
George W. Bush = is BAD for America and BAD for the world!
These are only my opinions, which I will only expound on in PM's, as the specifics are much to strong for these forums.
Marsh Schneidau
(aka Skywolf1)
There is NO WAY in HELL, that I will advocate an individual who seeks to plunge this country into further political regression then George W. Bush.
George W. Bush = is BAD for America and BAD for the world!
These are only my opinions, which I will only expound on in PM's, as the specifics are much to strong for these forums.
Marsh Schneidau
(aka Skywolf1)