How will they implement Mega Pokemon into the TCG?
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Shino Bug Master
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Well, i think it'd be helpful to know the full details of how they implement it in the video game before widely speculating about how it will be used in the TCG.
That said, here's the ways that seem to lend themselves to the concept as we understand it. B and D make the most sense for the current description of mega evos.
A) Just another evolution line. Not a "stage 2" but simply a "Mega" stage
B) Using an item to put a Mega Pokemon ontop a normal Pokemon.
C) lv.X like mechanic
D) A turn counter. Like a boost energy Pokemon though maybe a turn or two more.
E) A restriction system. Discarding energy, can't attack etc.
That said, here's the ways that seem to lend themselves to the concept as we understand it. B and D make the most sense for the current description of mega evos.
A) Just another evolution line. Not a "stage 2" but simply a "Mega" stage
B) Using an item to put a Mega Pokemon ontop a normal Pokemon.
C) lv.X like mechanic
D) A turn counter. Like a boost energy Pokemon though maybe a turn or two more.
E) A restriction system. Discarding energy, can't attack etc.
Tim17
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new scans state they have to hold an item and the "Mega-Evolution" forms appear only in battle, with that in mind, it would seem something like, if not specifically, the lv x system could work.
however Shino's option b seems like a possibility - new mechanic would be welcoming to the game - as long as they don't keep it stuck on basics only......
however Shino's option b seems like a possibility - new mechanic would be welcoming to the game - as long as they don't keep it stuck on basics only......
rivershock
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They might make the Mega Stone/whatever a Tool like Expert Belt... Other than that, I don't think they will happen. The only way I can think of them otherwise working is basically Lv.X with a different name, which would be stupid.
Im honestly thinking it will either be an item effect like "Rare Candy" where you put the Mega Evo in play with the effect, OR for a little more balance (since they seem to be overpowered versions of whichever Pokemon) they could use the newer "Fossil Mechanic" and you look at the top cards of your deck and find a Mega and put it into play on top of whatever Pokemon it goes to.
Unfortunately, I feel like the Pokemon that get these evos will be made into 200 HP+ cards and way overpowered, regardless of how they are put into play.
Unfortunately, I feel like the Pokemon that get these evos will be made into 200 HP+ cards and way overpowered, regardless of how they are put into play.
What if they released Mega Pokemon cards like Exs today? You get 2 Mega Pokemon and 4-5 other Pokemon as Exs in a set (I'm considering Exs and Mega Pokemon as fairly similar but Mega Pokemon just a little stronger) and made 2 ace specs for the Mega Pokemon where you had to play the ace spec on the previous Pokemon in order to play your Mega Pokemon.(example: I play Mega Lucario's ace spec on Lucario which allows me to play Mega Lucario on top) If this were to happen it would mean that you could only have one Mega Pokemon in your deck, you could only have one Mega Pokemon on your field at anyone time and that Mega Pokemon would be controllable by cards like Tool Scrapper.
How does this idea sound to people?
How does this idea sound to people?
Ignatious
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I wouldn't expect to see Mega Pokémon for about another year. We will probably have 3 XY sets, THEN they unleash Mega Pokémon.
1. XY being a new generation is exciting enough to attract attention
2. 3 sets in might just be beginning to bore people, but Mega Pokémon will bring them back
3. Black and White did the same thing
4. It could make sense with rotation. Rotating all of the EXes before Mega Pokémon enter the scene
5. It would suck if Mega Pokémon are worse than EXes, but if they are better, then we could have a serious problem. So rotate so that they do not co exist.
1. XY being a new generation is exciting enough to attract attention
2. 3 sets in might just be beginning to bore people, but Mega Pokémon will bring them back
3. Black and White did the same thing
4. It could make sense with rotation. Rotating all of the EXes before Mega Pokémon enter the scene
5. It would suck if Mega Pokémon are worse than EXes, but if they are better, then we could have a serious problem. So rotate so that they do not co exist.
By the same merit, the first few sets generally like making sure all new Pokemon get a card before introducing TCG-exclusive mechanics.
Tim17
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Tash - not only that, but all the mega-form we've seen are from previous eras of the games.....
based off today's news I'm going to say it's likely they'll be using an item into evo system - similar to what rivershock and NoDice discussed.
Personally, I hope they don't make it an ACESpec item to put it into play, I think if they limit the MegaEvo to one (like the stars from their era) and simply require it be put into play while in the active spot (similar to the Lv X mechanic). HOWEVER - once it's benched......possibly put back into hand? I'm basing this off the info we've got at hand of the mechanic from the vid games......
based off today's news I'm going to say it's likely they'll be using an item into evo system - similar to what rivershock and NoDice discussed.
Personally, I hope they don't make it an ACESpec item to put it into play, I think if they limit the MegaEvo to one (like the stars from their era) and simply require it be put into play while in the active spot (similar to the Lv X mechanic). HOWEVER - once it's benched......possibly put back into hand? I'm basing this off the info we've got at hand of the mechanic from the vid games......
I think something like the double sided cards in MtG would be pretty sweet, but that is likely way too complicated for Pokemon. They could have some sort of "trigger" and once the trigger occurs the card flips over to the other side.
Some triggers I could see are:
1) An Item or Tool
2) A countdown: for example, once X pokemon has been active for 2/3 turns it flips
3) once you get X number of energy onto the car it flips
4) etc.
Some triggers I could see are:
1) An Item or Tool
2) A countdown: for example, once X pokemon has been active for 2/3 turns it flips
3) once you get X number of energy onto the car it flips
4) etc.
TheRolesWePlay
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I can't really see the Mega Stone being implemented as an item since
A.) Each Mega Stone is different for each Pokemon
B.) Too hard to play
Lets face it if something HAD to have a tool to evolve it'd be pretty much impossible to play unless the Mega Stone functioned like Wally's Training and searched you deck to auto-evolve it.
I personally think an Lv X mechanic would work pretty well for them, although the likelyhood of that depends on how many Megas we get. If they needed to add in the Mega Stones I'd see them more likely to being Ace Specs for them.
In any case I have a feeling we'll have them in the first XY set, it wouldn't make much sense not to feature them with the major push they're getting and all. Which between them and Fairys I think we're going to be seeing a lot of surprises in the first set.
However Mega Pokemon are obviously supposed to be a pretty big deal with the franchise, it'd be shocking to not see them.
A.) Each Mega Stone is different for each Pokemon
B.) Too hard to play
Lets face it if something HAD to have a tool to evolve it'd be pretty much impossible to play unless the Mega Stone functioned like Wally's Training and searched you deck to auto-evolve it.
I personally think an Lv X mechanic would work pretty well for them, although the likelyhood of that depends on how many Megas we get. If they needed to add in the Mega Stones I'd see them more likely to being Ace Specs for them.
In any case I have a feeling we'll have them in the first XY set, it wouldn't make much sense not to feature them with the major push they're getting and all. Which between them and Fairys I think we're going to be seeing a lot of surprises in the first set.
However Mega Pokemon are obviously supposed to be a pretty big deal with the franchise, it'd be shocking to not see them.
Tim17
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and my point was agreeing the comment that the first couple of sets would introduce the new "pokedex" pokemon - as in the regional pokemon. It's unknown if the mega forms will be featured in the pokedex, considering they only appear in battle in mega form. With that, in mind it's unlikely they would be in the pokdex.
that said, the new mechanic of mega evolution (however they choose to make it in the tcg) would be introduced in a later set, perhaps set 3? You guys forget we also had EX's before - save they were "ex" and included stage 1 and 2 - not just basic.
as for making the stones ACESpec -that's possible, but I see the TCG making a generalized "mega stone" that works for all mega evolutions, similar to that of Rare Candy for Stage 2's
that said, the new mechanic of mega evolution (however they choose to make it in the tcg) would be introduced in a later set, perhaps set 3? You guys forget we also had EX's before - save they were "ex" and included stage 1 and 2 - not just basic.
as for making the stones ACESpec -that's possible, but I see the TCG making a generalized "mega stone" that works for all mega evolutions, similar to that of Rare Candy for Stage 2's
Medaforcer
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Are we already forgetting Lv. X pokemon came out in the first Diamond and Pearl set? I don't see why it'd be a 3 set wait for Mega pokemon. Especially if the new starters end up having a mega like blaziken does (I don't imagine blaziken being the only starter).
I bet the new starters will have Mega forms too. They just used Blaziken as an example because they're still keeping the final forms of the new starters a secret. And if that IS true then we will probably get mega froakie, fennekin, and chespin in the first set.
I bet the new starters will have Mega forms too. They just used Blaziken as an example because they're still keeping the final forms of the new starters a secret. And if that IS true then we will probably get mega froakie, fennekin, and chespin in the first set.
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rivershock
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Supposed to be a big deal and actually being a big deal are pretty different things. Wonder Launcher and Musicals. 'nough said.
Another possibility is item abilities (like the old Waccan Berry Bidoof and the like) that only trigger in <whatever circumstance triggers Mega forms> that make their attacks do extra damage or make new attacks available. Or, they'll just make it so Pokemon-EX depict Megas from now on... >.>
By the way, I fully expect that Megas are not limited to pre-Gen VI Pokemon. But most of the currently revealed fully-evolved Pokemon do not have a Mega Evolution. Gen VI Megas will probably debut the same time the fully-evolved Gen VI Starters do or soon after, and be of them.
Another possibility is item abilities (like the old Waccan Berry Bidoof and the like) that only trigger in <whatever circumstance triggers Mega forms> that make their attacks do extra damage or make new attacks available. Or, they'll just make it so Pokemon-EX depict Megas from now on... >.>
By the way, I fully expect that Megas are not limited to pre-Gen VI Pokemon. But most of the currently revealed fully-evolved Pokemon do not have a Mega Evolution. Gen VI Megas will probably debut the same time the fully-evolved Gen VI Starters do or soon after, and be of them.
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