Lopunny is terrible in Kingdra:
-It's inferior in terms of healing capabilities to Nidoqueen.
-In higher energy counts (not modern) builds, between retreating once per turn and Dragon Pump, you were able to get 3 energy in the discard per turn anyway if you so chose.
-In modern builds, extra consistency/damage boosters are ran that can be discarded for Dragon Pump more readily, rather than energy. However, as they are not water energy, but T/S/S, they don't boost Aqua Stream, defeating your purpose for including Lopunny.
It's a cute idea, but not reasonable.
hmmm, ok, lets go over this bullet for bullet.
-Yes, it is inferior in healing capabilites, but 2 things Lopunny has that Nidoqueen doesn't, first off,
it's a stage 1 instead of a stage 2. Most kingdra decks I know run broken time space, allowing you to
get out Lopunny MUCH easier than Nidoqueen in Kingdra. And the obvious, it doesn't let you discard
energy, which is a standard approach for Kingra techs. The only difference over other kingdra techs
like Regice, Alakazam, and Blissey is that it heals, and heals the whole field for rotation purposes.
I don't see how Lopunny is an 'inferior' choice.
-Yes, it is nice that the standard rotation gives you the option of 3 water energies in the discard, but
what if that isn't enough for me? Why not shoot for 5? Late game, the Kingdra deck is usually set up
and just rotating kingdra back and forth, it has the capability of building up 2 Lopunny in the process.
With a couple of felicities thrown in there, you could be knocking out Flygon in 2 turns worth of
discarding. Live the dream I say!
-Yea...I kind of wasn't arguing that Billy Bobs super consistancy build with 4 uxies, and 100% Donk
style deck would work for my 'Late game boosting' approach to how Lopunny would work. If you are
going for the Donk, and adding in the Damage Boosters and Draw power cards, then we aren't talking
about the same thing.
*I wouldn't suggest running Lopunny in your Machamp Deck either.
I'm not saying Lopunny is the only choice, or even the best, I'm just saying that it is worth looking
into, and I believe it will work. But most importantly, it is a cute idea, but it is also reasonable.
Cool part is that if I'm running it with Expert Belt, the Rotating/Healing thing would work even better!
I'm doing 80-20, it's got 150 HP, with healing all over the place, and then Aqua Stream does X number
of damage from my Water Discard cards +20.
-Jason
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