Is Gengar-Cresselia Lv. X Dead?

[EHLERZ5]

Naki is correct.... I read that in the "What Won Regionals" section....

a top 8 in some tough competition..... I saw alot of Gengar in the STL that weekend....

 

[i like burdn of a day]

- Naki: which world champion used it?, or are you joking?.
Gengar Cresselia is not dead.

I would guess that he means Jason K

 

[brightside182]

^ yeah it was Jason

 

[Deoxys Cool Form]

Me and my Brother got two second place's at States in Masters and Seniors. And look at Gengar Pwn's sig - Know way its dead, but I don't think it's seeing enough play in My Opinion.

 

[baby mario]

Gengar is not quite as good now as it was, for 2 reasons.

1. When it was played at States it had more of a surprise factor. It wasn't played much at Cities and most people were not ready with their strategy against it. After playing it a bit, you get much better at avoiding Fainting Spell, protecting your bench, and dumping Trainers.

2. There seems to be more Weavile G/Toxicroak G/Toolbox decks around now. These have a better match up against Gengar than most Dialga G and Palkia G lists.

I don't think the deck is dead at all, but people are more ready for it now.

 

[Ariadosman]

It was dead? I had no idea. I think 6-1 in swiss and a top cut is quite good for a so called "skill-less donk deck" especially when a large majority of my games were me working for my win by coming back in late game or controlling the board.

I fail to see how Gengar is such a bad deck. I mean it must be really bad if the 2008 Worlds champion was using it at St. Louis Regis, right?

How'd Ness go? I heard he went 2-3 at a Cities with it. =(

 

[darkartisan]

Grafton had played Gengar almost all season with big success....although he can play just about anything and do good. I felt Gengar was good play for states but had concentrated on Gengar/Manetric/Palkia (Restructure) with 4 switches which I still think is good but lacks the big hitter also. Carson went with Gengar/Cress/Mewtwo to GA and got 4th. On the way home we talked and decided that a Machamp line and blowers might push it over the edge and we could catch everyone off guard without Unown G being used in the Galactic decks. We even played it Friday night at Florida states and I won that event. It worked. I did not dominate any game and did have some luck that day....but any deck needs some luck to win a big event. I thought I would get 2-3 donks during the day and do well in top cut if I got that far. I got no donks and played 3 games in all the four rounds of tops. Great deck....no. Good play for our Metagame...yes. I avoided most of the bad matchups that day...also a must at a big event. I got the good hands when I needed them most. I got everything I needed against you and more when I already had an advantage. I was able to Foresight Twitchy and keep him without a hand for 5 turns while I sniped away at him or that could have been a game loss for me. Omar made a huge mistake in swiss in the last round or he would have beaten me as well. It was just my day. But Carson made tops with it and Grafton went 11-0 that day as well. Pretty solid I would say.

I attempted your deck but played Crobat over Blowers , it did amazing at league and local tournmanets, but then I got horrible starts(Uxie start, azlef/uxie start, baltoy start)

Not to mention Gechamp gets wrecked by Unown G, along with Gengar itself, which is why a couple of Gengar players couldnt make top cut, figure you have 2 gengar on the bench. They have an unown G claydol and a gengar with another unown G. Now you're forced to poltergeist, meaning that all they have to do is empty out their hand, hit you for 60, then play some blowers, hit you again, gg.

Its not a terrible card, I love it, but I just cant stand the luck of his second attack, especially wehn you try to hit them big by letting them draw up to 5 with a lookers :/. [P] for 60 is really amazing, but 30x t/s/s isnt

 

[Jaeger]

Gengar is not quite as good now as it was, for 2 reasons.

1. When it was played at States it had more of a surprise factor. It wasn't played much at Cities and most people were not ready with their strategy against it. After playing it a bit, you get much better at avoiding Fainting Spell, protecting your bench, and dumping Trainers.

2. There seems to be more Weavile G/Toxicroak G/Toolbox decks around now. These have a better match up against Gengar than most Dialga G and Palkia G lists.

I don't think the deck is dead at all, but people are more ready for it now.

This pretty much wins the thread. BabyMario just hit the nail of the head.