Master Yoda
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btw imo the company earn his money not from us at all.
Little kids who buying boosters at wallmart and so on are the big part of the cake
Little kids who buying boosters at wallmart and so on are the big part of the cake
Is the Pokemon TCG dying?
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Austino
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Your posts are starting to look like spam. Your sarcasm and non-constructive posts distract from the issue at hand. I'm sure this isn't something the Professor Program wants represented as has been pointed out. Instead of being closed-minded about players having opinions that aren't cheerful, how about listening to the players who support what you love to represent and go to the Professor boards you mention so often with a solution to them? A lot of us aren't Professors and can't access the board, so if it's so helpful and you ARE a Professor, why not do what you keep telling others to do?
jmho
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Educate me. When you become a member of an internet forum, what is considered privacy data?
I work at a university. Student educational records are protected by a law called FERPA (Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act). Unless an 18+ year old student specifically prohibits disclosure of "directory" information (ie., name, address, date/place of birth), the school may disclose such information without consent. Grades, expenses, and other privacy data are NEVER to be disclosed unless the student explicitly allows, case-by-case and/or person-by-person. Obviously, the university might choose a stricter policy not to release student data, but they are under no legal obligation to do so.
There are very few instances that I know of where given names are protected with privacy laws (for adults).
I work at a university. Student educational records are protected by a law called FERPA (Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act). Unless an 18+ year old student specifically prohibits disclosure of "directory" information (ie., name, address, date/place of birth), the school may disclose such information without consent. Grades, expenses, and other privacy data are NEVER to be disclosed unless the student explicitly allows, case-by-case and/or person-by-person. Obviously, the university might choose a stricter policy not to release student data, but they are under no legal obligation to do so.
There are very few instances that I know of where given names are protected with privacy laws (for adults).
I really agree with this post. SD poke mom, with all do respect, if you aren't going to offer constructive or relevant advice or information, why post? It's childish and immature. It's getting very distracting.
toxictaipan
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Just 'cause you can doesn't mean you should.
Sorry, but you've seen my post history and you know that I don't make accusations for no reason.
An unlocked version of the thread was sent to my by PM -thanks for that. Yeah, on reflection, posting the first name of someone is unlikely to endanger anyone, minor or not.
But it still leaves stuff unresolved:
1) How did Biggie get that information? Presumably through his professional capacity at TPCi
This is important. In the UK at least (and hence in the EU, we all should have similar rules about this),
Personal data includes:
Names (full names definitely) would fall under that definition, surely. So in the UK at least, IMO there would be scope to question why Biggie did what he did. Certainly if the full name was published that would be an absolute no-no.
Would gladly be proved wrong on this one. Honestly. But even if Biggie's actions fall within the letter of any law I cannot see how he is following the spirit of data protection laws.
2) If unchecked, what's to stop further information to be made public?
This one is scary. I pray that this line is never crossed.
Its borderline offensive that I am being marginalised when I think I am making a well-reasoned post about safety here. Public information is just that. Anyone can see it. Would you want your details out in public? I certainly would not. As mods, you guys do a really good job at protecting minors who post on the board. I find it strange that you are resisting getting reassurances from TPCi that they take this seriously and appreciate genuine concerns
Think before making a quip. Not everyone on this thread is asking the hard questions to get a rise out of Biggie or others.
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Says who?
Your given name is called "directory" information in the privacy-data world. The term is derived from the old phone directory days when you had to specifically ask the phone company to keep your name, address, and phone number unlisted.
Additionally, in the context of being investigated for wrong-doing, protection of privacy-data becomes more leniant.
Lucario EX
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This thread is getting out of hand.
As for the issue of someone's first name being posted, do you really think there was no way to find it other than looking through information only given to POP? Nearly everyone posts at least their first name somewhere, and people also usually post the first names of others as well. If someone posts that "John D." won "X event", and then "PokeGym Member" posts a tournament report about winning "X event", how hard is it to put two and two together? For that matter, you could even look up who won the event yourself, and still figure it out. This is all public information.
Has anyone actually thought to verify that there was no other way Biggie could have found the guy's name, or did you just all jump to the defense of an innocent player evilly being taken advantage of by POP?
The Professor Core Values have been around for years. And, I for one don't know that they're being enforced that much more severely now. The only obvious difference is that Biggie is posting about it, which I think is probably necessary. If you repeatedly see that someone's Professor status was revoked because they publicly made an unprofessional comment, you can't reasonably complain that you had no idea it would happen to you.
For that matter, I think it's high time that enforcement stepped up a bit. When Professors are refusing to follow simple event rules, and openly telling me that said rules are stupid, I start to wonder why they're Professors at all, if they can't care less about the rules.
As for the issue of someone's first name being posted, do you really think there was no way to find it other than looking through information only given to POP? Nearly everyone posts at least their first name somewhere, and people also usually post the first names of others as well. If someone posts that "John D." won "X event", and then "PokeGym Member" posts a tournament report about winning "X event", how hard is it to put two and two together? For that matter, you could even look up who won the event yourself, and still figure it out. This is all public information.
Has anyone actually thought to verify that there was no other way Biggie could have found the guy's name, or did you just all jump to the defense of an innocent player evilly being taken advantage of by POP?
The Professor Core Values have been around for years. And, I for one don't know that they're being enforced that much more severely now. The only obvious difference is that Biggie is posting about it, which I think is probably necessary. If you repeatedly see that someone's Professor status was revoked because they publicly made an unprofessional comment, you can't reasonably complain that you had no idea it would happen to you.
For that matter, I think it's high time that enforcement stepped up a bit. When Professors are refusing to follow simple event rules, and openly telling me that said rules are stupid, I start to wonder why they're Professors at all, if they can't care less about the rules.
When talking about privacy, let's not put minors in the same category as adults. Professors aren't minors, so I don't see the point of this argument. If dubious methods were employed to get the given name, then prosecute the infiltration methods. But, unless you're an under-world spy, or in the witness protection program, your given name is public information.
Austino
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I think the thread is going too far off topic as far as someone's name being posted online.
That really isn't the problem here. It's concern about the current aim of TPCi and their lack of information given to us as players as well as the effects of Professors speaking their minds, even when done respectfully. Biggie putting his foot in his mouth with something he said somewhere else is mildly relevant to the fact that several professors feel a bit threatened and scared to post opinions and several non-professors are leery to even apply to the program now.
The original post was respectfully concerned with the direction of the game and I thought it was good to see someone speaking up to point out the same issues we've all been wondering about.
That really isn't the problem here. It's concern about the current aim of TPCi and their lack of information given to us as players as well as the effects of Professors speaking their minds, even when done respectfully. Biggie putting his foot in his mouth with something he said somewhere else is mildly relevant to the fact that several professors feel a bit threatened and scared to post opinions and several non-professors are leery to even apply to the program now.
The original post was respectfully concerned with the direction of the game and I thought it was good to see someone speaking up to point out the same issues we've all been wondering about.
Kayle
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Yes, but that's also because the universities are trusted to have some measure of responsibility with those names.
A first name on the internet is not harmless. A full name on the internet is asking to be found by someone. And by "someone" I mean anyone, and by "anyone" I mean the people you least want looking for 11-year-old Pokemon players.
I have some experience with the kind of people who can and will find out an entire Financial Aid application's worth of information and people based on their first name. I know someone oti who figured out my own address, whole name, college, and a lot of personal information without me giving any of it to them - and I mean ANY - directly. The most they had was which state I lived in. They simply figured out the rest.
Internet is not a university. It is a rather hostile place and should be regarded as such.
Fine. I agree that few here seem to care as much as I do about privacy. I suppose if you don't think it a big deal, fair enough.
I'll stop hijacking the thread and apologise for doing so. As I said before though, I did it for a genuine concern.
(Would love to get a private audience with TPCi/POP about this if anyone there is willing to take me up on that!)
I'll stop hijacking the thread and apologise for doing so. As I said before though, I did it for a genuine concern.
(Would love to get a private audience with TPCi/POP about this if anyone there is willing to take me up on that!)
ShadowCard
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If biggie posted something that you feel he should not have on HeyTrainer, should HeyTrainer be handling that? Why is Pokegym being dragged into it?
I think the reason Professors post here instead of Pokegym. If the post is made here, it feels less official than if posted on the POP forums. POP forums is POP's home turf, but people feel that POP shouldn't have jurisdiction over what people say on Pokegym. (not necessarily my opinion, but people do feel that way.)
However, more professors read Pokegym than they do the POP forum and frequent Pokegym more than they do the POP forum. That's why I'd be more likely to post here than there.
I think the reason Professors post here instead of Pokegym. If the post is made here, it feels less official than if posted on the POP forums. POP forums is POP's home turf, but people feel that POP shouldn't have jurisdiction over what people say on Pokegym. (not necessarily my opinion, but people do feel that way.)
However, more professors read Pokegym than they do the POP forum and frequent Pokegym more than they do the POP forum. That's why I'd be more likely to post here than there.
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TheGeneral
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Dear SD Pokemom,
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Getting on everyone about spamming when these are clearly spam remarks is not fair to us fellow PokeGym folk
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TheGeneral
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On topic, Pokemon isn't going anywhere. Like someone above said, why would they pay for Worlds in Hawaii but be going under?
Your post has been brought to the attention of us thread viewers. This post, listed below, goes against The Rules or special forum guidelines posted in a specific forum.
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Posting unhelpful, unkind or rude remarks
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Getting on everyone about spamming when these are clearly spam remarks is not fair to us fellow PokeGym folk
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Respectfully,
TheGeneral
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On topic, Pokemon isn't going anywhere. Like someone above said, why would they pay for Worlds in Hawaii but be going under?
DarthPika
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^ Something tells me that you're about to receive a PM that looks much like that one, except it's probably going to come with a boat load of infraction points...
That's not to say that I don't think it's a brilliant post. ;P *cringes and waits for pm full of infraction points for liking post mocking a mod*
That's not to say that I don't think it's a brilliant post. ;P *cringes and waits for pm full of infraction points for liking post mocking a mod*
Since this as gone Hopelessly off topic it is now closed.
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