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Japanese Metagame

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just in case anyone's wondering, the best resources to find japanese metagame info are blogs(diarynote. ameblo, livedoor) you have to be able to understand japanese to some degree, but it's fairly easy to dig up all the blogs that are dedicated to pokemon, but it's a little harder to distinguish which of those blogs belong to actually good players vs. little kids, lol.

back when takuto itagaki won seniors, i think it was him or his father or something that came on here and posted his decklist, though i'm almost positive he posted a link to his diarynote account, if you use the search tags and go back a few years i think you'll be able to find it, but i don't recall off the top of my head.
 
After letting up some steam over stress, lack of sleep, and other annoyance I've been going through as of the last month. I think I should explain my ways a bit better where I actually I have the mental strengths to do so unlike my past posts in this thread.

For the most part, I do want to contribute to the community. I just prefer that my information is accurate and worth mentioning before I bring it over to the English speaking community. As of recently (about 2 weeks ago), I have been gathering the the W/L records (nearing 3000 matches thus far) of each deck in every Gym Challenge to give myself a better idea of how decks are performing. This has proven difficult as many Japanese players have different ways to call decks and I have to search all the way back July blog posts up to early September to do so. Then, I would match up the deck lists I've gathered with the decks that are performing well in my charts to get an idea of whether it is good or bad deck to share.
 
If people research their own info, they are perfectly entitled to keep it private or share it as they wish.

It's a bit petty and unpleasant when the whole point of their post seems to be to show off about it but, ehhhh . . . that's what some people are like. You get used to it.

I don't think there is too much surprise info to be gained from Japan because their tournament structure doesn't favor the more complex decks, especially since EX pokemon were introduced to the format. Everything that has been well over there recently has been obvious combos that Western players would have built anyhow.

When the set scans are released, I don't think there are many players who don't see the obvious combos for stuff like Hydreigon, Keldeo, and Landorus EX.

I think the only skill that comes from looking at Japanese results is being able to discern which of their decks are just out right bad (Garchomp/Altaria) and look for the cards that didn't make an impact on their meta that have the potential to be real good, like Garbodor, Durant, and the Vileplume from the new set.

I honestly don't see the western meta developing much differently with or without the information from Japan. I think the information helps almost no players, while hurting some who just buy into the hype of a deck that did well in Japan.

As long as we have the set info months in advance, I feel the meta will still shape up the same as we have a month or so after things like regionals wrap up to test the new set. Maybe it would be different if we found out what was in the sets when they were released.
 
In all honesty most of the deck lists I've seen in Japanese blogs are awful. I wouldn't be surprised if most of them were created by juniors. I would take most of the information found on there with a pinch of salt.
 
Look at Gartaria.

Now keep a straight face while honestly saying Japan should influence our meta at all.

Just because not everything works, doesn't mean that looking at their meta isn't useful or interesting. I'm sure that deck would have got hype regardless. I don't believe non-Japanese players need any help or advance info when it comes to creating and hyping bad decks.

I mean, I could use the counter example of Six Corners but I'm sure the response would be 'but that deck was so obvious! We would have made it too!'
 
Garchomp + Altaria was hyped up a lot. As CrystalEyeMonster said, the player (Yuta Komatsuda) was the one who had the skills to take it all the way to top in the Spring Battle Carnival tournament.

Now about deck lists from Japanese blogs it really depends on who you find. There is those who build decks just to give out a concept and those who performed well with a deck and have the backings to say that they did well with the deck (Sometimes, by the same deck builders who gave out concept lists with some minor or major tweaks). For the most part I've been able to discern blogs who have great amount backing to their deck lists (which many players do share most of the time) with results to those who just play the game to have fun without the worry of winning or losing. All the players I do follow now would probably equivalent to our Master division players.

Now about the tournament scene from Japan. Sure they have a different tournament structure, but remember that particular tournament structure we all know is used for Battle Carnival tournaments which happen twice a year (Autumn and Spring). Now from what I can tell and understand their Gym Challenges are very similar to our current Fall Battle Roads structure. 30 minutes to play (20 minutes in 30 card deck Gym Challenges). Since their only way of getting players to Worlds is through the Spring Battle Carnival (afaik), their tournaments tend be more lax in comparison and smaller in numbers.

When it comes to discern decks, people first threw Hydreigon + Darkrai EX to the side or bothered to even bat an eye at it. Then, I started to share a lot of what was going in the Spring Battle Carnival at time to support the deck thanks to several Japanese blogs which boomed up the play of the deck for our current metagame. Even now, people still ask questions and doubting decks like Blastoise + Keldeo EX and cards like Landorus EX about how it did in Japan because players there are already playing our upcoming City Championships metagame. For the people who are asking this mostly just them wanting to have a good mental state of what to expect.

As far as what are surprise decks, both Garbodor and Durant were already being played when the sets for them were first released in Japan. They didn't get played to the same extent as they did internationally. Sometimes, the format were they being played at the time didn't do well for them (Durant was played in the HGSS - NVI format which had plenty of support for the deck and players willing to play the deck, tweak it, and work on it). Garbodor was an well aware of deck in Japan. Yuta Komatsuda opted not to play Tool Scrapper in his deck because he figured the deck would see less play in the Battle Carnival tournament. Outside of the Battle Carnival, I've seen Garbodor being played plenty in Gym Challenges' tournament reports.
 
Secret decks are ALMOST always bad. The good secret decks are the ones that you'll find out about the day of the tournament(ross, speed darkrai) not the ones that have some code name like midnight city or super winning awesome deck.
 
Can I have a list for super winning awesome deck please?

midnight city sounds a bit crap.
 
So is Midnight City just RayEels with Terrakion and maybe Shaymin EX, or is it just a fancy name for Chandelure/Darkrai? The world may never know.
 
Midnight City must clearly be some bizarre combo that nobody has thought of before, like Regigas/Hydreigon or something.
 
To add to the list:

Charizard/Mewtwo/Garbodor/Lunatone (with Ether and Pokedex)
Accelgor/Dusknoir
Tornadus EX/Terrakion Ether Donk Deck
Vilebox (Landorus EX, Virizion, Basculin, and pluspowers)
Exploud Round

Please don't ask me for any lists or anything, otherwise ill take this down.

looool

Those looks so bad.
 
Secret decks are ALMOST always bad. The good secret decks are the ones that you'll find out about the day of the tournament(ross, speed darkrai) not the ones that have some code name like midnight city or super winning awesome deck.

If you found out about the concept of speed Darkrai the day of Nationals then you needed to do a lot more testing to begin with, or just pay more attention. It had already won a couple of Spring BRs at that point. Tom Dolezal obviously gets the credit for it because he actually went far with it in a big event, which is deserved, but I don't think it was anywhere near as inventive or secret as The Truth or even Accelgor/Chandelure/Vileplume/Darkrai/Shaymin/Relicanth/Mew/ProbablyMissingSomething.

Agree with your general point though.
 
If you found out about the concept of speed Darkrai the day of Nationals then you needed to do a lot more testing to begin with, or just pay more attention. It had already won a couple of Spring BRs at that point. Tom Dolezal obviously gets the credit for it because he actually went far with it in a big event, which is deserved, but I don't think it was anywhere near as inventive or secret as The Truth or even Accelgor/Chandelure/Vileplume/Darkrai/Shaymin/Relicanth/Mew/ProbablyMissingSomething.

Agree with your general point though.

His list was considerably better than any I had ever seen before. He deserved the credit he got.
 
If you found out about the concept of speed Darkrai the day of Nationals then you needed to do a lot more testing to begin with, or just pay more attention. It had already won a couple of Spring BRs at that point. Tom Dolezal obviously gets the credit for it because he actually went far with it in a big event, which is deserved, but I don't think it was anywhere near as inventive or secret as The Truth or even Accelgor/Chandelure/Vileplume/Darkrai/Shaymin/Relicanth/Mew/ProbablyMissingSomething.

Agree with your general point though.

Its funny because I had known about the accelgor deck far before nationals, but not speed darkrai up until nationals.
 
I won two spring brs with speed darkrai and two other top fours with it leading up nationals last year. Although I did call it evilpainter lol darkrai/smeargle
 
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