boneclub24
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Well, would maxed out Pokedex help? It feels like it would add speed, which I think Kingdra needs. If i'm totally wrong don't bash me 
Kingdra for CC's?
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FlamingJapaneseMan
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Pokedex? That clogs up space. Back when, diffrent story. Now, there's better.
nnaann
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Exactly, so you can afford for one Claydol/Baltoy to be sniped/prized. There are so many decks that will drag those out and KO them. Gengar if you haven't G'd it, Luxray GL, KO'd T1 if you started with it, Blaziken FB, Garchomp C etc.
FJM, I said it my original post you can drop an NM or Palmers. The other card is up to you, Warp, Belt, etc.
FlamingJapaneseMan
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Yeah, you need at least 5 Kingdras a game, so dropping a NM and a G.
boneclub24
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yeah, I agree in Kingdra you need the ones that aren't supporters
FlamingJapaneseMan
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I can only fit 1: NM or Palmer's, and I'm leaning on Palmer's because it gets back 2 more Pokemon, that Claydol, that Crobat you discarded, KINGDRA!!! And it doesn't get Tomb locked.
boneclub24
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this is true, but if you can find room i'd still go 2 NM> 1 Palmer's in Kingdra, as it doesn't wast your supporter, which is useful. IDK It's just a pref. of mine in Kingdra/Gyrados :|
FlamingJapaneseMan
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What should go in its place?
FlamingJapaneseMan
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List edited, what does everyone think of the ramifications?
nnaann
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Looks better. Personally, I would want a stage 2 tech in there incase I was behind in prizes and needed something to get back in the game. Dusknoir would give you that, and an answer to Nidoqueen. I would drop a Warp and Belt for that, but its up to you. Your list is more consistent like that.
FlamingJapaneseMan
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Kingdra is best played straight-up. A second Stage 2, IMO, jams things up. And noir is a no. I've tried to get it out in most cases, but the opponent knows I'm getting it and limits his/her bench.
nnaann
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Thats your call, and your taste with decks in general. I always play techy decks with lots of options. One good thing about Dusknoir, is the Duskull if you run the SH one. I've gotten about 3-4 donks from my Kingdra with Counting Song and Crobats.
However if the opponent is playing usually with a 5 bench, you are making a difference by forcing them to play with 3. Even if it can be done, it's still disruptive.
However if the opponent is playing usually with a 5 bench, you are making a difference by forcing them to play with 3. Even if it can be done, it's still disruptive.
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baby mario
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Yep, that's true but people always say it as if it is no bother to an opponent.
What happens if they need to drop Uxie or Azelf to set up? They can't. What happens if they want to use a starter like Spiritomb or Chatot? Either they can't, or you Warp it to the Bench where it sits there taking up space they want to use for something else. What about SP decks that want to Bench Bronzong and Lucario GL as well as multiple attackers (Luxray + something else) and Uxies for draw? They can't do all that either. What about Beedrill decks that ideally want 3-4 Beedrill in play + Claydol? They now have problems as well.
Being able to limit your opponent's Bench to 3 without even having to play or search for a single card (cos they know about the Dusknoir) gives you a significant advantage from the start. It really restricts their ability to play techs/support Pokemon.
Deoxys Cool Form
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Some people play it, but like Gyarados the tech would just slow it down.
FlamingJapaneseMan
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That would make the deck ssssssllllllllloooooooooowwwwwwwwwww. Kingdra has enough support/recovery on its own.
nnaann
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Alot of problems -
Takes up a bench space
Kingdra runs fine on one Palmers which takes up 1 space, as opposed to two
1HKO for Flygon Lv X and Luxray GL Lv X, two popular cards at the moment
Hassle to set up, and slows the deck down
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