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Were these premier events, or just casual play tournaments? Because it sounds like they were most likely to be casual, given there were three rounds.
Also, maxed out Seeker is slightly overkill. Three can do you good, but more than three becomes unnecessary. With this deck, it's all about consistency, and while Seeker are undoubtedly incredibly useful, if you play VS Seeker you should not have any problems. Of course, VS Seeker is also not necessary, but it depends on the player. Decks should fit your playstyle, and considering you have a good record with a Slowking tech and maxed out Seeker, you must have found something that fits your playstyle. Silver116, the real question is, which techs do you like the most and find that you play the best with?
 
Dusk said:
Were these premier events, or just casual play tournaments? Because it sounds like they were most likely to be casual, given there were three rounds.
Also, maxed out Seeker is slightly overkill. Three can do you good, but more than three becomes unnecessary. With this deck, it's all about consistency, and while Seeker are undoubtedly incredibly useful, if you play VS Seeker you should not have any problems. Of course, VS Seeker is also not necessary, but it depends on the player. Decks should fit your playstyle, and considering you have a good record with a Slowking tech and maxed out Seeker, you must have found something that fits your playstyle. Silver116, the real question is, which techs do you like the most and find that you play the best with?
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Thanks man I never thought about building a high-profile deck like this before. I thought it was "here's the list it will work only this way". But I have down some adjustments and found that since I have no vs seeker that 4 seeker is fine with a last minute palkia g lvx sweep and that BTS runs good in our current format. Here's my changed decklist:

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4-2-3 (Gengar prime, gengar SF)
1-1 palkia G Lv.X
2 spiritomb AR
2 spiritomb (spooky whirlpool)
2 uxie
1 azelf
1 mr.mime
1 unown Q

3 lost world
4 BTS
4 seeker
3 rare candy*
1 luxury ball
2 bebes search
3 pokemon collector
4 pokedrawer*
3 lookers investigation
2 twins

2 rescue
2 warp
7 phychic

Reasons:

-PalkiaG lvX can hit for 2 pokemon in the lost zone and then 3 with gengar. Good for a ending sweep with lostworld.

-mr mime let's you every turn look at opponents hand for pokemon.

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Dusk said:
The new Rare Candy ruling certainly distorts the metagame, but Pokemon TCG is usually changed minimally every time a new season of Pokemon comes out, just to keep things fresh and updated. I would, however, agree that VS Seeker, though situational, is playable in this type of deck.
@ Silver116: Copycat is an optional play, but can be useful in some situations. Just ensure that you run 3 Twins, that is a must. Otherwise, the rest is up to you for techs you wish to use. There are many possibly useful techs for this deck, just use the ones that you enjoy using the most and I wish you the best of luck with your playing.
~ Dusk
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They were official tournaments. My area doesn't have too many players. Tournaments usually run between 8-12 people.

EDIT: LOL, wrong quote.
 
No, that is not the theory at all, Vegeta SS4. The theory is to create consistency within the bounds of things you actually use, not just max out what is useful to you. I facepalmed at that statement. You do not need 4 BTS, because that is so many to the point where it becomes inconsistent. You don't run 4 Bebe's Search in every deck, because that is overkill. And trust me, there is such a thing. Silver116, if you heed everyone's advice, along with my own, I think that you will enjoy playing this deck and it will play well. Hope I helped you out, and PM is you need any advice on other decks.
~ Dusk
 
Well I just realized that I had to much BTS so I decreased it to 1. I also added twins and pokedex. I also just orderd a line of palkia g lvX, a mr mime, and a spiritomb. Here's my current list I think there might be to many trainers/supporters.

Lostgar suggestion

4-2-3 (Gengar prime, gengar SF)
1-1 palkia G Lv.X
2 spiritomb AR
1 spiritomb (spooky whirlpool)
2 uxie
1 azelf
1 mr.mime
1 unown Q

3 lost world
3 BTS
4 seeker
3 rare candy*
1 luxury ball
2 bebes search
3 pokemon collector
4 pokedrawer*
3 lookers investigation
2 twins
2 pokedex

2 rescue
2 warp
7 phychic

Reasons:

-PalkiaG lvX can hit for 2 pokemon in the lost zone and then 3 with gengar. Good for a ending sweep with lostworld.

-mr mime let's you every turn look at opponents hand for pokemon.

*Any opinion?
 
you should run the vileplume version. Trust me i have tested my speed version many times and even won my states wiht it but vileplume is way better. Trust me i know i am experienced,:)
 
poke50000 said:
you should run the vileplume version. Trust me i have tested my speed version many times and even won my states wiht it but vileplume is way better. Trust me i know i am experienced,:)
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I believe you and I have a friend I can borrow the cards off of but I have a few minor questions. How does it help my deck? What line of it should I run? And does it slow down me or my opponents? Thanks for the help I appreciate it and I'll try both theories. My first idea was to get four in the lost world free retreat gengar, and then bring up palkia g, level up and sweep my opponents bench for the win. What is the theory with vileplun?
 
Dusk, you completly misunderstood what I was saying. Look the term consistancy up, kthx.

What you are saying is right..exactly right. It is EXACTLY what I was saying, I just forgot that I've been in this game for years and assumed he knew my meaning, or you for that matter.

Max of things you need for this deck consists of the following;
Pokemon Collector, why? You NEED it, it is a must to get a setup.
Poke Drawer(if you run it), why? Its poke drawer...it works better as four than it would as 3.
Gastly, depending on if he is your starter. If he is, then Definitly run 4, increased odds of starting with it.

Medium cards(2-3)
Twins
Seeker
Lost World(easily searchable via Twins, id run 2)
BTS(3 of them...you need a fast setup)

I can keep going on, but I am sure and I hope you get what I was trying to covey.
 
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Vegeta ss4 said:
The Theory is run MAX of what you need, and middle numbers for what you don't.
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Any player, regardless of how long they have played, interprets "MAXING OUT" as playing four of any given card. Playing for a year, or any amount of time, does not change that. You do not need four Pokemon Collector in this deck. You simply do not. It is helpful for the setup, but you do not need four if their use is simply to set up. Any good, tournament winning list does not run four Pokemon Collector.

I did not misinterpret what you said. I interpreted it in the way it was typed and constructed. Please don't fool yourself that any player who is "experienced" would not interpret it that way. On another note, one year is not experience, the twelve years that I have been playing would be considered experience. Clearly, you have a lot to learn about the construction of the metagame or how to build a consistent list if you believe a deck like Lostgar runs four PokeDrawer +, four Pokemon Collector, and four Lost World. No Lostgar starts with Gastly, either.

By the way, consistency is uniformity among the parts of a complex thing. I did not misinterpret or misunderstand the meaning of consistency. Thanks.

~ Dusk
 
If you would be so kind to read my above your statement. It clearly denotes that im not saying gastly is the starter, and the id run pokedrawer. My list is much different than the list shown.

I do have a lot to learn, but as do you since you apparently do not know who I am. I can build decks, I can play this game.
A good tourney list would run 4 Collectors. A good player knows how needy it is, to run less than 4 is silly.

No point in this argument, you got 5h at states and 24th at regionals, in Wisconsin...so I MUST take your word that you know all about this deck.
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Vegeta ss4 said:
If you would be so kind to read my above your statement. It clearly denotes that im not saying gastly is the starter, and the id run pokedrawer. My list is much different than the list shown.

I do have a lot to learn, but as do you since you apparently do not know who I am. I can build decks, I can play this game.
A good tourney list would run 4 Collectors. A good player knows how needy it is, to run less than 4 is silly.

No point in this argument, you got 5h at states and 24th at regionals, in Wisconsin...so I MUST take your word that you know all about this deck.
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You clearly do not understand the construction of Lostgar if you run four Pokemon Collector. Enough said. And I will change my signature if it bothers you so, I will change it to show I am fifth in the state of WI. Okay? Okay.
~ Dia
 
Guys we don't have to argue about it. You both have valuable information that can help my deck. Because of you both it helped balance and create a better deck. I believe that four collectors is to much because it clogs up my hand with no way of discards them. I would though run four pokedrawer to play as a pair and to be searched by twins. We can work together to make this deck a world winning deck. Thanks for the help. :)
 
True, I don't play Lostgar.

Yeah, that signature is MUCH better.
:/

Silver, its all about playstyle man. Best advice is playtest and then playtest some more.
 
Final decklist:

Lostgar suggestion

4-2-3 (Gengar prime, gengar X)
1-1 palkia G Lv.X
2 spiritomb AR
1 spiritomb (spooky whirlpool)
2 uxie
1 azelf
1 mr.mime
1 unown Q

2 lost world
3 BTS
4 seeker
3 rare candy*
1 luxury ball
2 bebes search
3 pokemon collector
4 pokedrawer*
3 lookers investigation
3 twins
2 pokedex

2 rescue
2 warp
7 phychic

Through all your guys help I have been able to complete my deck. Thanks.:)

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If you're going to run Pokedex just run Uxie Lv. X instead. It has the same effect, but it's just a power, and it can be used every turn.
-2 Pokedex
+1 Uxie Lv. X
+1 Lost World
Otherwise, your final list looks good.
~ Dia
 
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