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Ludicargo (need help before citys)

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DragoniteMaster

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Okay guys I need help I thought my list was good but i went to a prerelease yesterday and got trashed aganist two metanite decks while I was on my break, I still managed to take 3 prizes in both games, but never had control of the situation. Okay Heres my list:

Pokemon: 21
4 Lotad DX (surprise)
2 Lombre DX (natural cure)
3 Ludicolo DX (swing dance)
1 Ludicolo d
2 Slugma UF (yawn)
2 Macargo DX (smooth over)
4 Jirachi DX (wishing star)
2 Diglet CG
2 Dugtrio CG
1 Aipom UF (snappy draw)

Trainers:26
4 Celio's Network
3 Rare Candy
1 Copycat
4 Battle Frontier
3 Holon Transcievr
2 Holon Mentor
1 Holon Scientist
1 Holon Farmer
1 Protective Orb
1 Mr. Briney's Compassion
1 Switch
2 Windstorm
(forgot the other 2 will edit it tommorow)

Energys:13
4 Water
3 DRE
2 Heal Energy
2 Holon's Castform
2 Scarmble Energy
 
DragoniteMaster said:
Okay guys I need help I thought my list was good but i went to a prerelease yesterday and got trashed aganist two metanite decks while I was on my break, I still managed to take 3 prizes in both games, but never had control of the situation. Okay Heres my list:

Pokemon: 21
4 Lotad DX (surprise)
2 Lombre DX (natural cure)
3 Ludicolo DX (swing dance)
1 Ludicolo d
2 Slugma UF (yawn)
2 Macargo DX (smooth over)
4 Jirachi DX (wishing star)
2 Diglet CG
2 Dugtrio CG
1 Aipom UF (snappy draw)

Trainers:26
4 Celio's Network
3 Rare Candy
1 Copycat
4 Battle Frontier
3 Holon Transcievr
2 Holon Mentor
1 Holon Scientist
1 Holon Farmer
1 Protective Orb
1 Mr. Briney's Compassion
1 Switch
2 Windstorm
(forgot the other 2 will edit it tommorow)

Energys:13
4 Water
3 DRE
2 Heal Energy
2 Holon's Castform
2 Scarmble Energy
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Your energy is too low, and you shouldn't play H's Castform in Ludi. Aipom is useless, that's why you have Jirachi. I also don't think the Dugtrio is that useful, and a 3-3 Magcargo is much more beneficial. Your trainers are also rather unfocused, when running a Holon Engine, it's rather silly not to max out the transceiver. A good engine would be 4 Trans 2 Ment 2 Adv 1 Sci 1 Farm
 
Deffinitly cut Aipom. 3-3 Magcargo. Think about cutting Dugtrio. Remove Switch for Warp Point. Add 1 DRE and a Holon WP. Remove Holon's Castform for 1 WP and a 5th Water. Change "Yawn" Slugma to "Collect" Slugma.

Pokemon: 22
4 Lotad
2 Lombre
4 Ludi (3 Swing 1 CG)
3 Slugma (Collect)
3 Magcargo DX
4 Jirachi DX
1-1 Tech of your choice. (or remove for more trainers)

NRG: 15
5 Water
2 Holon WP
4 DRE
2 Heal
2 Scramble

Trainers: 23
4 Celio's
4 BF
3 Rare Candy
1 Copycat
3 Holon Transcievr
2 Holon Mentor
1 Holon Scientist
1 Holon Farmer
1 Mr. Briney's Compassion
1 Warp Point
2 Windstorm

Maybe remove the Warp Point for a 2nd Briney...
Anyway, GL with the deck!
 
Sandslash7 said:
Deffinitly cut Aipom. 3-3 Magcargo. Think about cutting Dugtrio. Remove Switch for Warp Point. Add 1 DRE and a Holon WP. Remove Holon's Castform for 1 WP and a 5th Water. Change "Yawn" Slugma to "Collect" Slugma.

Pokemon: 22
4 Lotad
2 Lombre
4 Ludi (3 Swing 1 CG)
3 Slugma (Collect)
3 Magcargo DX
4 Jirachi DX
1-1 Tech of your choice. (or remove for more trainers)

NRG: 15
5 Water
2 Holon WP
4 DRE
2 Heal
2 Scramble

Trainers: 23
4 Celio's
4 BF
3 Rare Candy
1 Copycat
3 Holon Transcievr
2 Holon Mentor
1 Holon Scientist
1 Holon Farmer
1 Mr. Briney's Compassion
1 Warp Point
2 Windstorm

Maybe remove the Warp Point for a 2nd Briney...
Anyway, GL with the deck!
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Better; although I prefer the 6th water over the 4th DRE. Make sure the Lotad and Lombre are the ones with Aqua Lift, and the trainer engine should include a 4th transceiver and 2 adventurer. You're also forgetting Pokemon Tools.
 
DarkJake said:
Better; although I prefer the 6th water over the 4th DRE. Make sure the Lotad and Lombre are the ones with Aqua Lift, and the trainer engine should include a 4th transceiver and 2 adventurer. You're also forgetting Pokemon Tools.
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I'd have put a 4th Transciever and some Protective orbs, but there is not enough room... even if he cut the 1-1 tech, that would only give him 1 Orb or Adventurer along with the Transceiver.
 
Alright thanks for the advice but none of them give me a way to fight metanite and the idea with the holon adventurer just dosnt fit my deck first because i have no delta and to discard something isnt very good when almost every card i have is valuable to the decks startegy.
 
DragoniteMaster said:
Alright thanks for the advice but none of them give me a way to fight metanite and the idea with the holon adventurer just dosnt fit my deck first because i have no delta and to discard something isnt very good when almost every card i have is valuable to the decks startegy.
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Not true, Adventurer works wonders in Ludi.

To combat the lightning weakness, use Rayquaza δ.
 
You have to accept the autoloss to Metanite. Ludicargo cannot beat Metanite, period. It's a matchup that I'd simply ignore for this deck, cuz you can't beat the deck with this thing.

I play a somewhat speedier list that peeters out a little bit in the late game...

Pokemon (19):
3 Plusle or Tauros
4 Lotad
2 Lombre
4 Ludiculo (all DX)
3 Slugma
3 Magcargo (2 DX, 1 UF)

Trainers (26):
4 Transceiver
2 Mentor
1 Farmer
1 Scientist
4 Celio
3 TV Reporter or Holon Adventurer
1 Copycat or POR
1 Briney
3 Rare Candy
6 (combination of BF and Windstorm, the actual mix is somewhat unknown at this point)

Energy (15):
3/4 DRE
1 Heal
1 WP
2 Scramble
6/5 Water

This list usually gets me my first LC on turn 2, and the second on turn 3. I don't particularly like Jirachi for this deck, cuz you need Basics, and you need them fast. The TecH Energy I take as just that: TecH. I see no need for more than 1 Heal Energy, nor for more than 1 WP. That leaves more room for the Basics that are necessary for the deck to function properly.
 
if you have problems with the metanite matchup. Try adding in a line or 2 or the new dewgong d which can pretty much be splashed in any deck against the delta stuff. w/ dewgong and dugtrio out at the same time you pretty much are set against the raieggs match up too.
 
Ludi d just OHKOs a Meta so its just KOED next turn. It gives you a prize and gives them a prize, it makes no difference most times (speaking about metanite, not banette). With Ray they need to discard 4 energys to OHKO a full Ludi, so they wont.
 
coolmanderzx said:
if you have problems with the metanite matchup. Try adding in a line or 2 or the new dewgong d which can pretty much be splashed in any deck against the delta stuff. w/ dewgong and dugtrio out at the same time you pretty much are set against the raieggs match up too.
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That might actually be a good idea considering you already play the water energy. Although I dunno how you'd fit in Gong and Trio.
 
Ok i got it the new arbok from df which could do 160 to a metagross (without the metals) , but im also thinking of just accepting the loss to metanite and just worry about other decks.
 
dewgong d is weak to lightning... that won't work against metanite.

and wow that arbok looks very interesting... OHKO metagross with a DRE... i'll try it xD
 
ok pal if anybody can help with this i think i know the guy. ;)

drop the delta ludi,cut ur dugtrio line to a 1-1,drop the orb,one holon castform/5 cards

add warp point,strength charm/solid rage,a 4th DRE,castaway/scott,and one more heal energy./5 cards

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if metanite is your bad game run 4 plusle and 4 multi energy and drop the holon engine (keep farmer though) and play scott/castaway to pull it when needed.

i hope these changes help and please don't ridicule my advice if you disagree with me because i have played ludi for over 2 years and taken it to worlds twice. thx and gl.

-spaz
 
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