Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Meganium Prime: How much "prime" is it?

So, just proxies in my league? Some people have complained at me and said "dude take off your proxies already!!", however I need this for deck testing, and it's not even in tournaments. I hope they understand that~ Meanwhile I can always play with my cousin.

Thank you for the website!! It's gonna be damn useful! A last question, again. Do you consider the deck has too many cards? I ask this since I read the best decklists tend to be simple. What about that?
 
*shrug* I have not played it so I can not really pass judgement. It's not something I would like to play, but others can say the same thing about the decks I run.
 
I don't play leagues often, so I'm not sure how leagues would react. Of course, playing at a league nets you Player Reward points, so I guess going in there with proxies/fake cards might anger someone. Of course, they might be nice if they too are deck-testing.

I used to play with TONS of proxies, but I play with my friends mostly. Between the two of us, we are constantly testing ideas and as such we often use proxies against each other.

If you have friends who play with you, you can use proxies against them and it would be perfectly safe. At a league, you may face hostility, but I guess it could be understandable.

Also, I haven't played many netdecks, but I believe the simplicity in their Pokemon allows them to focus on them and only them. That leaves more room in their deck for resolving consistency issues, adding in techs or counters, fill up on essential trainers, or give room to energy.

Having a strategy with many cards isn't bad, per se. But that does leave you less room for techs and counters if most of your deck is filled with the necessaries to make your strategy work. Because you'll end up with less techs and counters, I guess you should just hope for your strategy doing better than you expect, or it being more versatile to any opponent (which, in any case, should be a deck's main attacker's purpose).
 
Sadly the only person I can really play with, is my cousin. I don't know if people would accept playing with me anyways, I've had complaints because I use proxies.

Wait, netdecks? I've heard about that term but don't really know what it means.

Aero, what do you think of the decklist, then?
 
Ah. Well if your cousin understands the rules and what you're trying to accomplish, it shouldn't be a problem. What I do with my friend is tell him my idea, and we give each other input on what we think the deck should have. We build it, and test it against one of the decks we've made, or a netdeck, and see what areas need improvement. Since we are both friends and we are just testing, we agree that proxies are okay, until we decide on a definitive list.

I would say that during league meetings, no, people might not accept playing with you if the deck is full of proxies. However, outside the league (or maybe before/after the event, during breaks or whatnot) they would be happy to. It's the spirit of the game, right? To help each other out? Although, I guess some people treat leagues more competitively, and want to be faced as such, and therefore feel proxies are unacceptable. This would just depend on the person. If you tell a judge what you're doing and why you're using proxies, they might let you keep playing or they might tell you to use all real cards during the league, but they won't shoot you down for wanting to test a deck idea. It's simply that during a league MIGHT not be the best place to use proxies in a experimental deck.

Netdecks, I learned of recently, haha. When someone mentions netdecking or something of the sort, it means they are playing or using a deck formed from a list they found on the Internet (hence the term, Inter"net"-deck). Many of these can be found in PokeGym's front page articles or sixprizes. Good players post up their decklists and strategies to share them and receive input. Popular ones are Vilegar and LuxChomp. I pretty much loosely label netdecking as anyone who doesn't use a deck they made but a deck they watched someone else make, so yeah.
For example, say your deck went successful. Someone saw the list of cards you had, and made the exact same deck, thinking of the exact same strategy. They would be considered netdeckers, netdecking your deck.

Personally, that idea with Meganium Prime crossed my mind a few times. I can't see Meganium as anything other than moving energy around, though. It's attack is okay-ish at most, so it could save you in a pinch as maybe a last-ditch effort or when you're stalling for something else. But as its own, as a main, I wouldn't give much hope to it. The idea that some have suggested with Leafeon is an idea that has come out a while ago. Meganium can serve a pretty vital role in that deck, allowing you to move your energies around. Shaymin for the HP is a nice add, but not exactly necessary, as it could be difficult to get out. If you do use it, Shaymin UL is a great choice, who allows you to move energy when you play it (I believe).

Meganium and Blissey is a decent combo, but definitely not in the sense that you should focus on either of them. I don't know your exact decklist, but look here on the 'Gym for deck staples. Many of them are so because they are so helpful in any deck. They may be able to speed things up.
Now, for the main attacker, I'm not going to decide that for you, that's up to whatever you want. However, my point still stands that Meganium/Blissey is a great support. Find trainers or supporters that can help you find constant energies and recycle and abuse Poke-POWERs, find a good strong Grass Pokemon that you can use to dish out damage or that you'd like, and follow a cycle in your tactics.
 
My cousin is kind of a beginner, and it's sad that I can't get anyone else's help.

That said, I think I might go one of these days and just tell people I wanna test my deck and that I need to face several people before deciding that my deck is ideal for building. I hope they don't shoot me down or something...

Oh, so that's netdecking. Thank you, I didn't know that.

The new decklist is above, and the old decklist is here: http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=139519
I didn't know Mega was an okay-ish attacker, and I didn't know what other pokemon could use Mega's support that well. I think I'm gonna use Leafeon+Roserade with MegaBliss as support. Still then, I can't think of any pokemon that can make use of Mega that well, and if I'm not using this deck, I just cannot possibly think on what to use anymore. It's disappointing though, I just began some months ago and I don't know what to do...
 
On the decklist you posted in this thread:

I'd suggest a few Spiritomb, as most S2 decks need them to set up quicker.
 
I don't like Spiritomb. After deck testing, I concluded Spiritomb hinders my own setting up and locks me into not being able to do anything if, for some reason, none of my pokemon in the bench can evolve.

Uh, I wonder if I should keep this strategy, I don't know if I should go for a tournament deck instead.
 
You're trying to build a deck that let's you MOVE ENERGY around.

The moving of energy shouldn't be your focus. Your focus should be to find a great ATTACKER and finding other Pokemon that enable it!

I, truly, think the intention of Meganium was to act like a reloader and move energy up to a new Pokemon that has been switched into the active position.

HOWEVER ... Meganium is your energy machine... not your attacker by any means.

The problem with energy trans decks is that you never really have enough energy on the table to TRANS!!

Unless you partner it with Shaymin LvX (both of them).

Then you have the "Thankfulness" Shaymin throwing tons of energy onto the table and meganiumPrime is sitting there moving it around for the rest of the game. Once Thankfulness shaymin is KO'd , you could, then, use Revenge Shaymin + Pokemon Rescue to bench the KO'd shaymin, trans to RevengeSeed Shaymin LvX and KO something. Now you have a continuous loop of RevengeSeed Shaymin for the rest of the game.

So, your answer is... Shaymin LvX (both of them)
 
@Rogue: Are you saying, I should build a Shaymin deck? 2 normal, 2 Lv.X?
@Blitzer: I don't like 'tomb. I play horribily with it, and it's so disruptive it disrupts my own game.
 
@Rogue: Are you saying, I should build a Shaymin deck? 2 normal, 2 Lv.X?
@Blitzer: I don't like 'tomb. I play horribily with it, and it's so disruptive it disrupts my own game.

Yep.

There are 2 different LvXs.

One gives all grass pokemon (except Shaymin) +40 HP "Thankfulness." The key here is that it's attack let's you play down ALL grass energy from your hand onto pokemon and it does damage for EVERY grass energy you've attached this way!

The other has a pokebody that does 60 additional damage if any of your Grass Pokemon were KO'd last turn. What's cool about its attack is that it, also, moves energy (ANY kind of energy).

Pokemon Rescue (and Combee which can evolve to a backup Vespiqueen) will keep a Ko'd Shaymin returning to the bench to revenge again.

Take a look in the Research Tower (link is at upper right corner of this page !) and see what I'm saying :)
 
Rogue, your deck sounds something like this...

2-2 Shaymin Lv.X (Land+Sky)
2-1-2 Meganium Prime
2-2 Vespiquen (UD)
2-2 Blissey Prime
1-1 Metapod (UD) (Auto-teching this so the deck can endure fire decks - had a bad experience against one already)
4 Pokemon Rescue
2 Palmer's Contribution
1 Luxury Ball

So, Shaymin's the hard attacker, right? I feel there's just too few of them...
 
Interview's Questions, Fisherman. Staraptor FB LvX . Smeargle to get out QUICK (and have a starter to sack if needed). Twins. & vs Seeker

If this gets up, you won't even need Metapod because you Ko ANYTHING that KO's you. :)

Instead of changing up your original post, I've tried to use everything you have there and make it functional.

You already had Landmin and Meganium. Meganium can STILL wear the belt and run up when Shaymin's whiff/dry-out.
 
Wow... Okay okay, then it's like this.

Pokemon:
2-2-2 Meganium Prime
2-2 Shaymin Lv.X (Land+Sky)
2-2 Vespiquen (UD)
2-2 Blissey Prime
2-2 Staraptor FB Lv.X
4 Smeargle

TSS:
4 Pokemon Rescue
2 Palmer's Contribution
1 Luxury Ball
3 Fisherman
3 Twins
3 VS Seeker
3 Interviewer's Questions
2 Expert Belt

Since I learned recently about the concept of Setup+Consistency+Resource+Recovery, let me classify them... I need to have a grasp of this, too. Correct me if I'm wrong, please...

Setup: Staraptor FB Lv.X, Smeargle, Luxury Ball
Consistency: Vespiquen, maybe Twins, Luxury Ball
Resource: None atm
Recovery: Nearly every Trainer and Supporter
 
I made a fun tank deck with:

4x Spiritomb (Sacrafice to Clear Bench)
2-2-2 Magenium Prime
2-2 Bilssy Prime
2-2 Doudrio UD
2-2 Regigigas (Drag Off)/Regigas X
1x Uxie
1x Azelf (Sacrafice to Clear Bench)

4x Rainbow
1x Water (for Regi X)
1x Metal (for Regi X)
3x DCE
7x Grass

Comboed with Sage Training to get basic energy in discard then sacrafice them into play and get Belts/Rainbow/DCE out faster. Doudrio let's you tank by rotating 2 Meg, Blissy if its safe and the Regigias, then use blissful nurse. Use Seeker on blissy and tank some more.

I have been able to out tank Steelix Prime, and Kingdra Prime swarm.
 
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I've been thinking of a Meganium deck for a while that would have a pokemon line something like this:

4-3-4 Meganium (2x Prime, 2x HGSS)
2-2 Roserade UL
2-2 Blissey Prime (I will be replacing this with B&W trainers once they come out)
2-2 Sunflora
2 Uxie

Meganium HGSS:
The purpose of this card is to be an early attacker. 30 and sleep for one energies is not too shabby, especially when he is e-belted, causing annoyance and decent damage at the same time.

Roserade UL:
If you take a look at the Poke-power of Roserade, you'll see that it has the potential for disrupting your opponents active pokemon by attaching Grass energies and confusing your opponents active Pokemon. Pair this with the sleep induced by Meganium HGSS, and your going to be severely cutting your opponent's chances of attacking or retreating. This card also pairs very well with Meganium Prime, as you can attach a Grass energy to Roserade to confuse your opponent, but then move the energy to a Pokemon that can actually utilize it. In addition, the attack can be very powerful after a few turns of set-up. In those critical moments where you need to take out a large tanking Pokemon, you can retreat to Roserade and move all those energies you've been attaching to it via Meganium Prime's power and hit for big damage.

Sunflora:
This card allows you to search your deck for Grass Pokemon, and will essentially become your search engine.

I haven't really tested, so it's all just theory. It seems like it would be a little hard to pull off, but it might work....
 
@Warbuzz: I don't want a "fun" deck (although I want to have fun with my deck, but that's a different matter), but rather a deck I can win against commonly used decks.

@coolio: What B&W trainers??

Today I was suggested to do the following, I don't know how will it turn out though...

Pokémon
2-1-2 Meganium Prime
3-2-3 Torterra (UL)
2-2 Blissey Prime

Trainers
4 SSU
4 Seeker
4 Rare Candy
3 Expert Belt

Strategy: Tank with Torterra, Mega prime supposedly should move energies around....... Damn, now I realize I barely understand the strategy, but Torterra is supposed to be the main attacker this time and Mega prime merely a support.

I'll have a bad time against Vilegars though, and I'm not using Azelf, Uxie or Shaymin Lv.X because they are incredibly hard to find, so I'll go for easier cards for now.
 
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