I've always believed that if you're going to drop, you should concede to your last opponent. There's no reason to stick them with a loss, then leave. That just feels wrong to me. Pretty cheesy move.
I fully understand about the points, but even that doesn't justify for me.
I don't understand your rationale. If it's not about the points, then what IS it about? Tie-breakers? Don't even go there because there are plenty of pros, cons, and what-ifs that absolultely justify how tie-breaker points are scored for opponents who drop.
---------- Post added 03/15/2011 at 04:02 PM ----------
Yugioh events are ran very differently, Points mean almost nothing in the game so everybody just wants the Nats invite which is usually the top 20% of tournament. If one player has their invites its incredibly common to scoop. There is also a lot of colusion in the game. This is defenitly not something we want to get into.
Collusion involves doing something illegal. Unconditional concessions are not illegal, so you can "put the two in the same breath," or in the same paragraph.
---------- Post added 03/15/2011 at 04:23 PM ----------
There are some teams that push the envelope of trying to get results changed after slips are turned in, and all sorts of other bizarre behavior.
It is not just a pokemon problem. I have heard Yugioh players brag about winning events, with only 2 actual wins the whole time. SCARY.
Perhaps if they added a rule that concessions must be followed by dropping from the tournament, then teams wouldn't use them to advance their cause.
Trying to change results AFTER slips are turned in? That can't happen, right? Not without cause. Years ago, I beat Chris Fulop in a Professor Cup, but we both incorrectly circled the wrong results and turned in the signed result slip. When the next round started, and I noticed the error, I told the head judge, but fully expected the error to stand. Nevertheless, mercy was on my side. The HJ corrected the error, re-paired the round, and ChrisF was an absolute gentleman (he could've petitioned for justice to let the error stand - the rules were on his side - but he didn't).
Anyway, as long as a "team" isn't violating the rules, I don't see a problem. If games should be "won or lost at the table," there wouldn't be a provision for concessions.
BTW, trying to change the match results AFTER the match is over is considered "cheating."
Penalty Guidelines - 7.6.4. Cheating said:
Examples of Unsporting Conduct: Cheating include:
- Altering match results after the conclusion of the match.
---------- Post added 03/15/2011 at 04:34 PM ----------
Looking at conceding matches, I have a couple of observations.......
(long, outstanding post)
Well stated PokeDad. Ditto.