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MY BOY Lugia EX does work

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Churyu

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Im playing in the current battle roads right now and i have no way to my worlds invite with battle roads point so i wanted to play a deck based off lugia .

Pokemon
4 Lugia Ex
4 Aerodactyl DEX 53
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Trainers
4 Professor Juniper
4 N
3 Skyla
3 Cheren
2 Shadow Triad
4 Plus Power
4 old amber
4 Corless machine
3 Hypmotoxic laser
2 plasma ball
2 verbank city gym
1 float stone
1 switch
1 twisted mountain
1 town map
1 Computer search
40

4 plasma
4 double colorless
4 fighting
12

so the point of the deck is to set up lugia to take prizes and be powered up with aerodactyl with plus power and for more hypnotoxic

i added the float stone and switch is if i missed the donk and they catcher aerodactyl.
theres no catcher because i'll be one hitting every thing for a least 2 prize
 
I think 4 Lugia and 2 Plasma Balls is a little heavy... I understand that he is the centerpiece of the deck, but I would honestly suggest 3 Lugia, and 2 Ultra Balls... So that you can access both Lugia and Aerodactyl when you need them. I would like to see the 4th Laser in here, so that you can set up the KOs with Lugia more often and more easily.

I think 4 Skyla is necessary in this deck... It gets your Old Amber, Plus Power, Hypnotoxic Laser, Gym, Plasma/Ultra Ball, etc. exactly when you need them for the KO. Take out a Cheren for the 4th Skyla. Since you run 4 Skyla now, and you have so many supporters due to your inclusion of Shadow Triad, I suggest the removal of 1 Shadow Triad (or I suppose another Cheren, but I wouldn't recommend it) for a single Skyla-searchable Bicycle. I have loved running one in decks that run multiple Skylas, and if you think about it, you should only really have to KO 2-3 Pokemon with Lugia, so retrieving Plasma energies from the discard isn't necessary. 1 Shadow Triad should be sufficient to grab a Plasma Energy, Colress Machine, Laser, or even a Lugia if it's really necessary in the late game.

Town Map is pointless... I would remove it for a Mewtwo EX seems logical as a reliable backup attacker especially since you run Double Colorless Energy. Either that, or a Terrakion or Bouffalant to better combat Lugia's weaknessesI (Electric types and Sigalyph).

Finally, I would prefer Dowsing Machine over Comp. Search. Usually Computer Search is just grabbing a Juniper or a singleton Trainer card. However, Dowsing Machine can grab Juniper too, or a Skyla to get the singleton Trainer. The plus Dowsing Machine has over Comp. Search is it can also reuse those limited resources in the late game, such as
Switch, Shafow Triad, Float Stone, Ultra Ball, Lasers, etc. this could be argued as preference though.

I'm still not convinced on your lack of Catchers... But I get your logic.

So overview of my ideas...

-1 Lugia
-1 Cheren
-1 Shadow Triad
-1 Town Map
-1 Computer Search
-2 Plasma Ball

+1 Skyla
+1 Hypnotoxic Laser
+1 Bicycle
+1 Mewtwo EX/Terrakion/Bouffalant
+2 Ultra Ball
+1 Dowsing Machine


I hope this makes the deck a tad more consistent. Later!
 
Why run 8(Aerodactyl+Old Amber) cards to do a max of +40 damage when you can just run 4 Deoxy's EX and have a viable secondary attacker?
 
Vegeta ss4 said:
Why run 8(Aerodactyl+Old Amber) cards to do a max of +40 damage when you can just run 4 Deoxy's EX and have a viable secondary attacker?
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i am running aerodactyl because the point is to attack with lugia and not start with deoxys and wasting like a dce to retreate it

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henry808 said:
I think 4 Lugia and 2 Plasma Balls is a little heavy... I understand that he is the centerpiece of the deck, but I would honestly suggest 3 Lugia, and 2 Ultra Balls... So that you can access both Lugia and Aerodactyl when you need them. I would like to see the 4th Laser in here, so that you can set up the KOs with Lugia more often and more easily.

I think 4 Skyla is necessary in this deck... It gets your Old Amber, Plus Power, Hypnotoxic Laser, Gym, Plasma/Ultra Ball, etc. exactly when you need them for the KO. Take out a Cheren for the 4th Skyla. Since you run 4 Skyla now, and you have so many supporters due to your inclusion of Shadow Triad, I suggest the removal of 1 Shadow Triad (or I suppose another Cheren, but I wouldn't recommend it) for a single Skyla-searchable Bicycle. I have loved running one in decks that run multiple Skylas, and if you think about it, you should only really have to KO 2-3 Pokemon with Lugia, so retrieving Plasma energies from the discard isn't necessary. 1 Shadow Triad should be sufficient to grab a Plasma Energy, Colress Machine, Laser, or even a Lugia if it's really necessary in the late game.

Town Map is pointless... I would remove it for a Mewtwo EX seems logical as a reliable backup attacker especially since you run Double Colorless Energy. Either that, or a Terrakion or Bouffalant to better combat Lugia's weaknessesI (Electric types and Sigalyph).

Finally, I would prefer Dowsing Machine over Comp. Search. Usually Computer Search is just grabbing a Juniper or a singleton Trainer card. However, Dowsing Machine can grab Juniper too, or a Skyla to get the singleton Trainer. The plus Dowsing Machine has over Comp. Search is it can also reuse those limited resources in the late game, such as
Switch, Shafow Triad, Float Stone, Ultra Ball, Lasers, etc. this could be argued as preference though.

I'm still not convinced on your lack of Catchers... But I get your logic.

So overview of my ideas...

-1 Lugia
-1 Cheren
-1 Shadow Triad
-1 Town Map
-1 Computer Search
-2 Plasma Ball

+1 Skyla
+1 Hypnotoxic Laser
+1 Bicycle
+1 Mewtwo EX/Terrakion/Bouffalant
+2 Ultra Ball
+1 Dowsing Machine


I hope this makes the deck a tad more consistent. Later!
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i might take some ideas like hypnotoxic skyla and ultra but taking shadow triad out lower like the plasma energy because i think if i dont hit the lugia (whitch i wont because im a god) they might hammer it . and TAKE AWAY TOWN MAP??!!?? YOU SIR ARE CRAZY THIS CARD MY BE STUPID BY BUT IT WON MANY GAMES SO FAR
 
Churyu said:
i am running aerodactyl because the point is to attack with lugia and not start with deoxys and wasting like a dce to retreate it
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You know you can run a few switches and Float stones, right? I'm just letting you know you do have a better option that will create more consistent situation instead of having to be lucky with a flip or hoping your bottom 7 cards are what you need. I understand that that you want to be different, but I think you need a better answer than to say you don't want to start with Deoxy's(who could get you a donk with a few plus powers. That is all I am saying.

Also taking the ideas of Laser would just ruin your strategy as a whole.
 
Vegeta ss4 said:
You know you can run a few switches and Float stones, right? I'm just letting you know you do have a better option that will create more consistent situation instead of having to be lucky with a flip or hoping your bottom 7 cards are what you need. I understand that that you want to be different, but I think you need a better answer than to say you don't want to start with Deoxy's(who could get you a donk with a few plus powers. That is all I am saying.

Also taking the ideas of Laser would just ruin your strategy as a whole.
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im not running a lot of of switchs and floats stones its 1-1 and like i dont see why would laser ruin it like i see it as 3 more damg and even with 4 of any thing it only hits 160 so i see it helping
lke the point of the deck is to get t1 lugia addng deoxy lower the chance of hitting because i see it a waste of an card buring a switch just for retreting
 
Deoxys is also easier to get out, easy to use as a secondary if needed, and overall much better consistency. You should probably be running Float Stone either way.

Laser is a questionable choice in combination with Lugia because Lugia doesn't draw an extra prize if the Defending is knocked out via Poison between turns. However it also makes it possible for Lugia to get some of the meta into a winnable situation. You'll have to test it out and see if Lasers are better than other cards.

You might want to consider Frozen City as well. It would get damage on non-plasma Pokemon and put them closer to the OHKO range you need to draw those extra prizes.
 
Churyu said:
im not running a lot of of switchs and floats stones its 1-1 and like i dont see why would laser ruin it like i see it as 3 more damg and even with 4 of any thing it only hits 160 so i see it helping
lke the point of the deck is to get t1 lugia addng deoxy lower the chance of hitting because i see it a waste of an card buring a switch just for retreting
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I understand, it is your playstyle and choice. But to ask for help and then deny a better viable option because you have a bad taste in your mouth in regards with Float Stone/Switch is incorrect. You may not receive much more help then that. Let me break this down a little bit and see if I can persuade you with small numbers.

You run 1 Twist Mountain, and 4 Old Amber. The likelihood of Twist Mountain being taken out of the equation is high. The opponent can simply discard it with their stadium. Then you only have 4 chances to get out an Aerodactyl. If you miss with those options, which is highly likely because finding 1 of 4 cards in the bottom 7 cards out of your entire deck is around, your odds are less than 20% success based on almost half of your deck being gone. Not even factoring the chance of it being prized and or in your hand the number will go down dramatically. So basically you have to hope that you are the luckiest player in the game.

Or, you can simply take out Old Amber and Aerodactyl by adding 4 Deoxy's EX and maybe a few recycles and switches which will garnish you atleast at 90% chance that Lugia EX will be the active Pokémon before you attack or attach an energy based on the switches and Float Stone. It is also worth noting that because of Quad Snorlax being a huge deck right now, maximum switches almost is the obvious situation, otherwise you would simply lose.

I like other people here, am just trying to help you understand that consistency is the key to success here.
 
Vegeta ss4 said:
Also taking the ideas of Laser would just ruin your strategy as a whole.
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It doesn't ruin anything... 120 damage even +40 from Aerodactyls/Deoxys/Pluspower still doesn't OHKO most EXs. This means you've wasted a Plasma Energy for no gain. This is why many Lugia decks try to spread damage with Lanodorus EX, Registeel EX, or plasma Kyurem before finishing up with Lugia. The Laser/Virbank combo gets that 30-60 damage necessary to KO next turn and take those extra prizes.
 
henry808 said:
It doesn't ruin anything... 120 damage even +40 from Aerodactyls/Deoxys/Pluspower still doesn't OHKO most EXs. This means you've wasted a Plasma Energy for no gain. This is why many Lugia decks try to spread damage with Lanodorus EX, Registeel EX, or plasma Kyurem before finishing up with Lugia. The Laser/Virbank combo gets that 30-60 damage necessary to KO next turn and take those extra prizes.
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You are correct, if you would like Lugia to sit as the active to be a sponge while you setup a OHKO with the laser for the next turn, then that's fine. The more Lugia sits as the active without putting on some sort of pressure, the more you will end up losing the game.
 
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