My Infernape4 deck, please help

[Armando292]

3-1 Infernape4 liv.x
2 TurtwigGL
2 Crobat G
1 Rayquaza
1 Uxie LA
1 Azelf LA
2 Unown G

4 Cyrus Conspiracy
4 Roseanne's Research
4 Underground Expedition

1 Luxury Ball
2 Night Maintenance
2 Pokemon Rescue
2 Premier Ball
4 Stark Mountain
4 Energy Gain
2 Power Spray
2 SP Radar (the only 2 I've got)
4 Poke Turn

8 Fire Energy
2 Grass Energy
2 Multi energy

Strategy: it's obvius. Infernape is the main hitter. I can do 20 damages to 2 pokemon on the first turn and hit with 100 damages on the second. Rayquaza+stark mountain is to assign more energy. Turtwig is for water decks match-up.

Here is the problem: in my zone there are many Machamp decks. He can OHKO anything in my deck. UnownG helps but if I assign an unownG to an Infernape then I can give him the energy gain, and my deck become slower. I was thinking to eliminate 2 turtwig and 1 unown g to add 2 toxicroak and 1 skuntank. But I don't know if it would work. Please help me.

 

[Dusk]

-2 Turtwig GL
+2 Raichu GL
-1 Raquaza
-4 Stark Mountain
+ 2-1 Heatran Lv. X
+2 Fire Energy
-2 Grass Energy
+2 Electric Energy
-2 Underground Expidition
+2 Bebe's

These are my suggestions. You probably shouldn't add in Tox or Skuntank. Raichu GL Better takes care of Kingdra/water decks in general.

 

[Armando292]

Thanks for the help, but you haven't solved my problem with machamp...

 

[Dark Ninja]

Toxicroak and skuntank make Machamp a lot easier. But it hurts the consistency.

 

[konopacz]

I like the rayquaza idea. I would add in 4 flint's and take out 4 undergrouns.

 

[prodigal_fanboy]

3-1 Infernape4 liv.x
2 TurtwigGL
2 Crobat G
1 Rayquaza
1 Uxie LA
1 Azelf LA
2 Unown G

4 Cyrus Conspiracy
4 Roseanne's Research
4 Underground Expedition

1 Luxury Ball
2 Night Maintenance
2 Pokemon Rescue
2 Premier Ball
4 Stark Mountain
4 Energy Gain
2 Power Spray
2 SP Radar (the only 2 I've got)
4 Poke Turn

8 Fire Energy
2 Grass Energy
2 Multi energy

Strategy: it's obvius. Infernape is the main hitter. I can do 20 damages to 2 pokemon on the first turn and hit with 100 damages on the second. Rayquaza+stark mountain is to assign more energy. Turtwig is for water decks match-up.

Here is the problem: in my zone there are many Machamp decks. He can OHKO anything in my deck. UnownG helps but if I assign an unownG to an Infernape then I can give him the energy gain, and my deck become slower. I was thinking to eliminate 2 turtwig and 1 unown g to add 2 toxicroak and 1 skuntank. But I don't know if it would work. Please help me.

If you're worried about water decks, Luxray GL would be a better 'tech' - Lucario GL + Flash Impact is 120 damage to any water pokemon that's lightning weak, which is most of them, and takes one less energy allotment (and can also be recovered with Rayquaza LA).

Also, your only source of true draw is the lone Uxie.

-4 Underground Expedition
+2-2 Claydol

-2 Pokemon Rescue
+2 Bebe's

-1 Premier Ball
-2 Turtwig
+2-1 Luxray

-2 Grass
-2 Multi
-2 Fire
+3 Lightning
+3 Call

For Machamp, you should consider adding Lucario GL, Bronzong G, and beefing up your Uxie line to 2-1.

You can go from no energy on an Uxie to having two energy and Zen Blade for 120, Skuntank G or Crobat G being the last 10 you need for the OHKO.

Edit:
I just saw someone suggest Heatran. Either run a 1-1 or 2-2 Heatran line if you follow that route, but make sure you run 3 Warp Points, otherwise you'll never get it out of active, and Lv Max is a waste of space in what ought be a very tight list.

 

[zazu]

Prodigal, just out of curiousity how would lv max be a waste? instead of running 3 warps he could use 2 lv max taking up only 2 card spaces and leaving one open?

 

[NightmareScream]

If you're worried about water decks, Luxray GL would be a better 'tech' - Lucario GL + Flash Impact is 120 damage to any water pokemon that's lightning weak, which is most of them, and takes one less energy allotment (and can also be recovered with Rayquaza LA).

Also, your only source of true draw is the lone Uxie.

-4 Underground Expedition
+2-2 Claydol

-2 Pokemon Rescue
+2 Bebe's

-1 Premier Ball
-2 Turtwig
+2-1 Luxray

-2 Grass
-2 Multi
-2 Fire
+3 Lightning
+3 Call

For Machamp, you should consider adding Lucario GL, Bronzong G, and beefing up your Uxie line to 2-1.

You can go from no energy on an Uxie to having two energy and Zen Blade for 120, Skuntank G or Crobat G being the last 10 you need for the OHKO.

Edit:
I just saw someone suggest Heatran. Either run a 1-1 or 2-2 Heatran line if you follow that route, but make sure you run 3 Warp Points, otherwise you'll never get it out of active, and Lv Max is a waste of space in what ought be a very tight list.

Luxray 4 lvl X's attack doesnt apply weakness or resistance. and Luxray 4's second attack does 70 dmg and forces you to discard 1 energy from ur hand. So it'd be 140, not 120

 

[prodigal_fanboy]

Prodigal, just out of curiousity how would lv max be a waste? instead of running 3 warps he could use 2 lv max taking up only 2 card spaces and leaving one open?

Because you aren't guaranteed the heads on Lv. Max, and Warp is not valuable SOLELY for its ability to pull up something for you to Lv. X it?

Also, there's that whole thing where he basically going to lose if he gets a Heatran start and no way of pulling it from active, as he loses all the speedy quick damage he should be dealing while he either waits for them to KO it, hoping they can't snipe, or until he can attach the three or four energy to retreat.

Also, statistically he should hit tails on both Lv. Max once out of every four games, ergo one out of every four games, or two in an eight-round tournament, he's wasted 4-6 deck and one bench space (the Heatran) for a recovery engine that will never see play.

Luxray 4 lvl X's attack doesnt apply weakness or resistance. and Luxray 4's second attack does 70 dmg and forces you to discard 1 energy from ur hand. So it'd be 140, not 120

That is in fact my mistake, so it's equally costed, attachment wise, to Turtwig, but gets the OHKO on every lightning-weak pokemon in format. I run a Trash-Bolt focused Luxray build anyway, with CQs and sech. Thanks for pointing that out!

Edit: No, I'm fairly sure I'm correct in saying that the "Don't apply Weakness and Resistance" is referring to the thirty you hit your own bench for.

 

[Darkmot]

heatran - blaziken - infernape 4 is the best at the moment allowed deck with infernape
---------------- because of machamp,mewto,dialga g lv.x,......................................
hope that that helps you a lot