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NA professor cup: Wormadam Sandy Cloak BANNED

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Great decision. :thumb:

Too sad the European cup is already over. Would be happy to have such an event without Wormadam. :/

Now Venomoth will be BDIF, but at least, there are some good counters against it.
 
Scizor said:
Wormadam dominates one FUN event and Gardevoir and Gallade dominate the better part of a season and make things unplayable, but yet what gets banned? I'm not saying GG is going to win everything, but I don't get it.
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Gotta jump in here and say I agree. Apparently, it's not that hard to ban stuff, so what's the deal? GG has nearly ruined this game since it came out in Cities, but please make sure we clear up the Wormadam issue! And to the people saying there are viable counters: there will be viable counters to anything, but that doesn't mean those counters will fair well against other stuff. Banette, for instance, does great against GG, but has a hard time against other stuff.

Personally, I'm glad they banned something. It actually shows PUI/POP as being somewhat flexible with issues like this. But then there's the fact that GG has owned this season. Even Regionals (after we had both Cities and States to counter the deck) was won primarily by GG. I've done enough complaining here, but I'm still just kind of stumped about it. :rolleyes:
 
those of you saying 'it's not that hard to ban cards, so why didn't they do something about GG': of COURSE it's going to be a lot easier for OP to ban a card for a single, NON SANCTIONED, fun, event than in modified worldwide! you're comparing apples to oranges...

'mom
 
SD PokéMom said:
those of you saying 'it's not that hard to ban cards, so why didn't they do something about GG': of COURSE it's going to be a lot easier for OP to ban a card for a single, NON SANCTIONED, fun, event than in modified worldwide! you're comparing apples to oranges...

'mom
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In addition, you should also remember the fact that Wormadam never was made to be an uncommon. It's a rare card in Secret Wonders, the only reason why it has ever been allowed to play was a reprint in POP-7.
 
SD PokéMom said:
those of you saying 'it's not that hard to ban cards, so why didn't they do something about GG': of COURSE it's going to be a lot easier for OP to ban a card for a single, NON SANCTIONED, fun, event than in modified worldwide! you're comparing apples to oranges...

'mom
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Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't be so quick to jump on OP's back. Still, when Mike was describing the Professor Cup, I felt the same way about the Modified format. Here's what stuck out to me:

This event has thrived on being a fun, creative tournament, where players feel comfortable using off the wall decks. That's what makes the event so enjoyable for so many people, POP staff included.

Considering the options available in the Professor Cup format this year, we don't see any reasonable, reliable answer to this deck. Our great concern is that we'll see 95% of the players using this deck, resulting in a terribly uninteresting Professor Cup.
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All of this is the same as for our Modified format, where "we don't see any reasonable, reliable answer" to GG. Just like the Professor Cup, where problems arose from having a limited cardpool, the Modified format outside of Japan has its own limitations that has caused problems. And I guess what bothers me is the difference between the measures taken to preserve the fun of this game: in one instance, after one tournament, a card is actually banned (nearly unprecedented in this game), while in the other instance, absolutely nothing is done.
 
Everyone should appreciate the difference here wrt Wormy in the Prof Cup vs GG in Modified Format.

The Prof Cup is not an event remotely associated with any Premier Organized Play Event. Ya, it's held at Nats but that's about it.

It is a fun format, created for the sole purpose of getting a bunch of folks who have given so much to the game a chance to have some competetive fun. There are no points involved, there are no rankings, it's just a fun unsanctioned tourney (kind of like a mutant draft).

OP is a completely different animal. You are talking a global stage versus a very small stage. The process by which a card(s) would be banned is more like an act of God.

It is sad that no matter what decisions PUI makes to better the game, in whatever venue, that decision is always going to have detractors.
 
ShadowGuard said:
Great decision. :thumb:

Too sad the European cup is already over. Would be happy to have such an event without Wormadam. :/

Now Venomoth will be BDIF, but at least, there are some good counters against it.
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Um, I am not sure I agree with that, but okay. There are many cards that can counter the Moth. Donphan is one. I know Venomoth has resistance, but still you dont get hit with the body. Venomoth isnt the best "card" in the format. You have to remember it takes 2 Grass to attack. That can be a problem if someone gets a much better start then the Venomoth player. I just dont think that Venomoth is the BDIF, but it is up their.

Drew
 
eriknance said:
All of this is the same as for our Modified format, where "we don't see any reasonable, reliable answer" to GG. Just like the Professor Cup, where problems arose from having a limited cardpool, the Modified format outside of Japan has its own limitations that has caused problems. And I guess what bothers me is the difference between the measures taken to preserve the fun of this game: in one instance, after one tournament, a card is actually banned (nearly unprecedented in this game), while in the other instance, absolutely nothing is done.
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There might not be any reliable counters, but if you look at Regionals and Battle Roads, GG didn't win 100% of the tournaments, or even 75% of the tournaments. In the European Professor Cup, Wormadam was 7 out of 8 of the decks. Was there a single Regionals where GG was 7 out of the top 8? The format for the Professor Cup is much more limited too so there aren't as many cards to work with to even come up with a good counter. Also, there is no longevity to the ban, because the day after the NA Professor Cup is over, the ban is gone.

It would be MUCH harder to ban a card in Modified because it'd have to be banned from the beginning of the season for the entirety of the season. PUI couldn't ban a card for one tournament, what about all those that played it at Regionals and did well? That wouldn't be fair.

It's very much apples and oranges imho. Two totally different formats, two totally different kinds of bans.
 
I understand how its good, was the deck just 4-4, probably 15-18 energy and just TV Reporters etc. Since its banned can someone post a list?
 
Still, I have not seen a card be so luckbased and ruin so many would-be viable decks like Gallade has since Feraligatr in Neo Genesis. Even Blaziken eventually had decks that could beat it and the field.
 
Well, honestly if people are afraid of T2 70 consistent damage, then they should watch out for Exeggutor d.
That'll be pretty popular I think.
 
Combusken.dec would've pwned everyone trying to use wormys =(

T2 30 for R, then 60 for R every turn. Buffers, cessations, er2, beach= ridiculous lockdown.
 
I was planning a switch (from Wormadan actually) over to Dodrio with Cessation Crystal...gives you resistance and shuts down some of the accelleration.

Ah well, now I'll need to counter Combusken :smile:

-Cory
 
ryanvergel said:
Combusken.dec would've pwned everyone trying to use wormys =(

T2 30 for R, then 60 for R every turn. Buffers, cessations, er2, beach= ridiculous lockdown.
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Yeh, it may have, but I think that now it would not be a good choice. Play a single pokemon line that is completely weak to water which is one of the better uncommon types is a bad idea.

Drew
 
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