Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Net decking and SotG...

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[R]Visitor: Ignoring the bluntness of some of the above points, I would point out that you are in fact targeting the wrong audience. By nature, people on Pokegym are usually involved in the game to the point where they want to start competing in tournaments. If you were to say the same stuff to more casual players of the game, they'd most likely agree with you.

Here's a viewpoint which has only been alluded to above - If PUI had a better website, it too would surely talk about decklists and stuff itself. Every other gaming company does it. Is this because it's the right thing to do? Who knows? I do know that if it didn't make business sense, they wouldn't do it.

Why on earth do they sell the worlds championship decks? They sell, that's why...
 
people who whine that others wont share their list are silly people
if they worked hard on the list, naturally they arent going to reveal it so that you can simply netdeck it with no skill whatsoever
ryanvergel said:
You play to win, or you're irrational!
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<--- Irrational
 
I'm sure a bunch of you guys will flock to me and say a bunch of silly stuff about how I don't know what i'm talking about, and then i'll continue not caring about anything you say, so skip that and try to stay on topic.
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I've got a couple of things to say in response to you (in addition to the things I've already said), but obviously there's no point in trying to have a conversation with someone who's just going to cover their ears and say, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU SO I CAN'T BE WRONG!" (no, not even to respond to the idea that one is "off topic" if one disagrees with this guy).
 
Maybe I shouldn't be posting this 'cause I haven't read the whole topic, but it seems like his context of "compete" means to play a game with the goal of being victorious.

You can play a game like Super Mario Bros. or Ikaruga without the goal of finishing them, and still have fun. You could even technically "beat" them without any thunderous applause or honors.

However, if you compete in a game like Super Mario Bros. or Ikaruga, then you may aim for the quickest finish time, or the highest score at an arcade. A lot of people don't have the dedication to be like

this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=PIEXFrBRt6U

or this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EGNSdcy-apU

Pokemon's the exact same thing. We have our players like R Visitor, and we have our youtube video-esque "competitive" types.

I completely get what you're saying, R Visitor, but you have to concede that there are only so many deck concepts possible in this game, and even fewer that actually WORK! That's why you see archetypes at every event: because they are proven to be the most competitive (ie what Pokegym membership is focused on, as Dogma said). I agree with you that it's always nice to see originality in such a limited field, but rarely does that originality succeed in a competitive environment.

However, it's ironic you complain about no creativity, and seeing the same deck in all top eight slots, when you fail to notice the actual skill in playing/deckbuilding that makes up a mirror match. Chances are, if a top eight at a city championship consisted of seven clones of my generic "archetypes and standard strategies" list for Metanite and one fine-tuned, properly-teched list, then it most likely wouldn't be due to luck that the fine-tuned Metanite wins! Rather, it'd be due to extremely bad luck! While there are several situations where less experienced players/lists win over better players/lists (the luck factor), experience is relative to consistent performance.

So to sum this up...

-I agree with the idea of competing being different from playing. The context shouldn't be ignored.
-I disagree with the idea that archetypes go against the spirit of the game. Without archetypes, some casual players (read: players, not competitors) may not even consider playing the game, because they don't want to do awful.
-Skill is actually pretty darn important.
-As briefly hinted at in the second point, it all comes down to personal definitions of "success," so Laissez-Faire on this topic, dawgz.
 
These kind of discussions will never end, and as long as
THIS kind of topics keep coming up it never will.

(ps Sorry but I couldn't resist to post such reaction on that topic)
 
MrMeches said:
Jimmy, I suggest you take PRIDE in the FACT that people realize you are one of the TOP QUALITY PLAYERS right now and they want to know what you are playing!
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Yeah this man has a point Jimmy. People idolize you, they want your decks, your famous in this society of ours. Your the "Pokemon dream". You should be proud that people want to know your secrets, that is what I call respect, IMO.
 
lol people might wanna know what Jimmy's playing, but he doesn't have to like it. And R Visitor has some great points- creativity and all

POP release roughly 100 cards per set, some reprints, most new. If you can't find ways to utilize the unused cards, and simply netdeck, then there's a serious problem with your ability and skill in this game. I myself, will be the first to admit, I am a TERRIBLE deck builder, but I try anyway, and by using generic engines and manipulating them in different directions, the decks I do build turn out quiet nice. not Worlds Standard, but enough to win some Cities and make a few players think. That's how you gotta do it... look at your cards and build a deck...not a list some dude you don't even know personally wrote.
 
^- Coming from a person who freely admitted to not reading anything in the thread and just went "LOL QFT" on page four.
 
Bolt said:
Yes. That was that sole purpose of him starting this thread. The explanation was filler.
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Misdirection, perhaps.

That doesn't change the fact that he's trying to profit off his list, anyway.

Which is really messed up. I dunno about anyone else, but I for one just lost nearly all respect for him.
 
Cool down, please

I still think it's a good joke, which will cost me $25 (small price for a good joke).

However Jimmy moved himself in a delicate position by starting up this topic and later on putting his list on sale.
Just wait and see what happens.
 
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