New dragon type announced!!!!
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Medaforcer
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Oh how exciting to know it is true. : )
Envoyofduels
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dancingaway
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As regards weakness, for the time being i think it's fair to say that weakness will be none! Someone pointed out that this is how dragons started but look at Haxorus and Druddigon in the upcoming Noble Victories, both without a weakness.
It almost seems like they were paving the way for Dragon-type.....
TheRolesWePlay
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If the Dragons are any good then they had better have a weakness. Weather it be to themselves (which hopefully mean no special Dragon energy) or the fairly common water. Given how important Weakness has been this format, then they'd possible be broken otherwise.
As for color I'd bet it'll be a Bluish-Purple, Orange, or Gold.
As for color I'd bet it'll be a Bluish-Purple, Orange, or Gold.
Thoughtwavemachine
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I'm super excited about the news 
! And I can't really undestand peobple whining about this: "another type should have gotten their own type" etc. At least something new like this happens 2012 is "dragon's year" according to chinece horoscopes, soo it kinda makes sense.
As for the weakness of the type I'm with TheRolesWePlay: it's either dragon or water (ice). I'm sure the colour of the type will sport blue and red, just as in the games.
! And I can't really undestand peobple whining about this: "another type should have gotten their own type" etc. At least something new like this happens 2012 is "dragon's year" according to chinece horoscopes, soo it kinda makes sense. As for the weakness of the type I'm with TheRolesWePlay: it's either dragon or water (ice). I'm sure the colour of the type will sport blue and red, just as in the games.
Why is everyone debating color? Dragons have always been colorless unless they've been dual-typed (Such as Reshiram and Zekrom).
To me, Dragon Type is just a new symbol. The only time color is ever even mentioned/considered are in Double Colorless Energy or in Rainbow Energy (And it's various versions, and only as flavor). There is no "Search for a green Pokemon", it's "Search for a :grass: pokemon"; not "Weakness REDx2", but rather "Weakness :fire:x2". This isn't Magic The Gathering :nonono:
A pokemon's type is determined by the symbol in the corner of the card, not the color of it's border. That part could be Pink or Brown for all I care.
To me, Dragon Type is just a new symbol. The only time color is ever even mentioned/considered are in Double Colorless Energy or in Rainbow Energy (And it's various versions, and only as flavor). There is no "Search for a green Pokemon", it's "Search for a :grass: pokemon"; not "Weakness REDx2", but rather "Weakness :fire:x2". This isn't Magic The Gathering :nonono:
A pokemon's type is determined by the symbol in the corner of the card, not the color of it's border. That part could be Pink or Brown for all I care.
SpecialDragonType
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So you are confirming that there will be Special energy, but unless someone claims to reveal the fact that there is basic energy also, you won't confirm?!?
Well I might not have the facts to back this up, but I have heard there will be a Basic Dragon Energy Card.
AND that the Special Dragon Energy Card won't be defensive like steal or offensive like dark, but full of fail like dragon attacks normally are.
Dragon attacks are usually 100 percent accurate, but in the TCG they all have on thing in common. You must flip two coins and if either/both of them are tails the attack fails.
This is how they will nerf the dragon attacks.
I can actually only think of a few, the more recent being Dragonite TM.
Every other example of a Dragon I searched for has discarding energy as a drawback. If I were to guess what Dragon Energy would do, is that it would be a Rainbow Energy card when in play and attached to a Dragon type; this would benefit all dragons that need to discard energy of various types, covering any required energy costs for those dragons while providing Dragon type energy to a non-dragon type pokemon.
I am confirming no such thing.
Hey, we're all just guessing the color for fun. No real reason other than to scratch at our brains what it will be.
TheRolesWePlay
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So I must have imagined Dragonite ex (delta)'s Dragon Roar, or Salamence SW's Dragon Finish, as well as Garchomp C's Dragon Claw and Dragon Rush attacks, and most recent Outrage for the three mascots of BW. Two of which are VG attacks the others made for TCG. In all seriousness I doubt that the cards would be nerfed due to attacks, but probably for some other requirement, such as a special energy cost or even the mixed energy cost that dragons have had, but with less awesome attacks.
I'm still unsure about the whole split. Sure it's going to breath some new life into the game, but they just reintroduced EXs, an effect that hasn't been fully seen yet. However, I'm still intrigued to see what they do with it. All I hope is that it won't break the game, which is unlikely if it's supposed to be a mainstay of the game.
Further I wonder if this is a prelude to something like the Trainer re-branding in Japan's HS was to the sub-classifications.
SpecialDragonType
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Those are great examples Dragon attacks, but look at it this way..
The three dragon type attacks with dragon in their name are Dragon Rage, Dragon Steam, and Dragon Stamp:
[2] Dragon Rage (50) Flip 2 coins. If either of them is tails, this attack does nothing.
[4] Dragon Stamp (80) Flip 2 coins. If both of them are tails, this attack does nothing. If both of them are heads, the Defending Pokemon is now Paralyzed.
[W] Dragon Steam (60) If your opponent has any R Pokemon in play, this attack's base damage is 20 instead of 60.
Which one stands out? The one that doesn't fail when you get tails.
Then there is "Twister" which isn't being used by any dragon pokemons, but is technically a dragon type attacks. This is TM Pidge
[3] Twister (30) Flip 2 coins. If both of them are tails, this attack does nothing. For each heads, discard an Energy attached to the Defending Pokemon.
Including Outrage, 3/5 of the currently modified Dragon Type attacks fail under tails.
TheRolesWePlay
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But that can be said for many types. All type moves have their good and bad appearances, and the bad Dragon moves are only more noticeable because there are fewer of them. I'm not going to defend the bad ones, but as you said 3/5 are bad, but that's a pretty small pool of attacks that will likely increase with the appearance of the new Dragon Pokemon, and we still have yet to see a Dragon Tail attack. As for the ones you pointed out Dragon Rage is supposed to be a powerful, but risky attack in the TCG (ie Magikarp MT) and Dragon Steam is 60 base for 1 energy, and the nerf is only to keep it from being too broken, and Dragon Stamp is just another example of Dragonite's unfortunate fall into mediocrity.
Plus if they want to push Dragon types, they may make brand new attacks like in the case of Dragon Roar, and feature new powerful attacks like they've done in the past. That's also the reason why the TCG is so different from the VG, they can make new attacks to balance the meta.
SpecialDragonType
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Of course they will make brand new attacks powerful like they've done in the past. There is no doubt about that.
And they will balance them so that they don't disrupt the meta.
But how?
..Flip 2
TheRolesWePlay
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Or they might make them counter certain cards in the meta.
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