Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

BW-on New speedrill? (Help wanted)

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Intro: I opened a new Beedrill and had to use it. Grass is easily my favorite type. Here's the list, strategy and explanation bellow. Enjoy!


Pokemon: 18

3 Beedrill PF 3
4 Weedle PF 1
1 Kakuna PF 2
3 Cherrim PS 7
3 Cherubi PS 6
1 Mew EX DR 46
1 Shaymin EX ND 5
1 Mr. Mime PF 47

T/S/S: 35

3 Max Potion EP 94
1 Super Rod NV 95
2 Virbank City Gym PS 126
3 Level Ball ND 89
3 Switch BW 104
4 Rare Candy DE 100
3 Pokemon communication BW 99
3 N NV 92
2 Skyla BC 134
2 Professor Juniper BW 101
2 Bianca EP 90
1 Gold Potion
1 Random Receiver DE 99
1 Energy Search BW 93
3 Pokemon Catcher EP 95
1 Energy Retrieval

Energy: 7

7 Grass Energy BW 105

Strategy/Explanation:
Turn one is strictly set up. You won't be donking anyone or anything. I like to see 2 weedles and 2 cherubi on the bench by the end of turn 1. Turn 2 is rough, if you've been attacked or had a hypnotoxic laser played you HAVE to go for a way to remove the damage if Cherrim can't heal it away. Usually it can! Simply go for Beedrill and get the knock outs! If you don't KO their pokemon with 1 attack (which you usually won't), you still have an opportunity here. They have to waste a switch, retreat, or FLIP to attack you!

Max potion: You only need 1 energy to attack and you HAVE to be at full HP to do max damage, this is so important.

Virbank City Gym: This increases poison damage to 30 between turns. This is crucial for Beedrill's attack.

Mr. Mime: Darkrai and Landorus love attacking the bench. This will hurt a ton when you have a set up Beedrill on the bench getting smacked around. Mr. Mime keeps your bench clear of damage and is a must have VS pokemon that "snipe" the bench.

Mew EX: Mew can copy your opponents attacks which is good. I like it for knocking out those pesky Deoxys EXs and Mewtwo EXs. You can use Beedrill's attacks for x2 damage on them and nobody sets up a Deoxys EX if you don't one shot it. It's a great card and can tank for your Beedrill. It can also copy Shaymin's attack, but we'll get into that next.

Shaymin EX: The first attack is simply OK. This card is only played for the 2nd attack. A lot of decks out there are all about large basic pokemon that attack turn 1-2. You are always at risk for losing beedrill. Shaymin is implemented for those games where you can't get set up in time. You can easily get a few prizes with it late game too.

Cherrim: I feel this deck holds the best place for this card to really shine! You're now provided with a form of "potion" once per turn from Cherrim's ability, which coincides with Beedrill's attack (needing full HP).

Conclusion: A lot of "weird" cards that work together. I really enjoy playing the deck and I'm open to suggestions! Thanks for reading!

~PokePharos

Change History:
-3 Audino
+1 Grass energy
+1 Bianca
+1 N
-2 Ultra ball
-1 Level ball
+3 Pokemon Communication
-1 Emolga
+1 Energy Retrieval
-1 Computer search
+1 Gold Potion
 
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I tried Beedrill Ninetals and did not like it. I like your build so I want to try it., although would run extra switches or potions over Audino personally. I don't get though how Mew KO's Deyoxys it is only doing 120 and with the stadium it is not a KO either.
 
Cut audino. It was hurting consistency.
Why dowsing machine over computer search? Just wondering. I was actually considering gold potion too for a while... but the search seems better. Also I want to add a 4th Max potion.
 
Cut audino. It was hurting consistency.
Why dowsing machine over computer search? Just wondering. I was actually considering gold potion too for a while... but the search seems better. Also I want to add a 4th Max potion.

I would run Gold potion as your 4th Max potion it will be with the Cherims around.
 
I cant get this deck to set up. It is not fast or consistent enough to be a competitive deck unfortunantly.
 
I cant get this deck to set up. It is not fast or consistent enough to be a competitive deck unfortunantly.

I find myself set up quite easily with this same list. I play on playtcg and in real life. It isn't fast enough if you compare it to the new plasma based decks, however it is fast enough for a deck with a stage 2.
75% of the time I have a T2 beedrill (if my weedle is still alive), and 24% I can get it set up on T3.

However you're right. It's not fast enough to keep up with the current meta, but on the chance that I get set up before too many casualties are accounted for, my opponent is in serious trouble. If they do not donk me. I usually have a max potion/gold potion to get back to full HP before attaching that first energy. If they laser I have free retreat (given my opponent flips a tails on sleep).
 
I think u don't need cherrim. Cause its just gonna sit on the bench and be easy prizes for a quick deck. Plus u got gold and max potion. I think carvnive from dark explorers naturally fits in there . Also has 2 pesky attacks that can really mess up it opponent
 
You're right about Cherrim. It has been easy prizes for my opponent. However it does "tank" a shot for my beedrill reducing the amount of healing that I will need. I like Cherrim's ability in those times where I have very little damage on me and don't have a way to switch/retreat into another attacker. Cherrim has proven useful, but he does have a lot of drawbacks.

On the note of "Carnivine" from dark explorers. This card looks really awesome. The first attack is fairly brutal on t1. Allowing my beedrill to get set up without having to tank for himself. Carnivine also only has 90HP which allows me to search for it with level ball. I am not fond of the retreat cost, 2... It's my least favorite retreat cost because it simply offers no benefits. It hurts discarding 2 energies to retreat him, i hate wasting switches, and it doesn't open up Heavy ball (not that I would consider that in this deck anyway).

All that aside, the 2nd attack is where I am looking. It's very powerful and can be brutal! However I run no form of Energy excel in the deck. This will take 3 turns to set up and if I max potion that will add an additional 3 turns if I choose to use the attack again later. But the attack is sooo awesome I have to consider Carnivine. I just need a good tank that fits the deck. Carnivine might be the one to do it. (will also save deck space for more supporters and trainers!).

Thanks a ton for your post, this has given me a lot to consider. :)
 
I played against a beedrill deck that did not run cherim, just 4 max potions and sabelye. It ran all over me.
 
You're right about Cherrim. It has been easy prizes for my opponent. However it does "tank" a shot for my beedrill reducing the amount of healing that I will need. I like Cherrim's ability in those times where I have very little damage on me and don't have a way to switch/retreat into another attacker. Cherrim has proven useful, but he does have a lot of drawbacks.

On the note of "Carnivine" from dark explorers. This card looks really awesome. The first attack is fairly brutal on t1. Allowing my beedrill to get set up without having to tank for himself. Carnivine also only has 90HP which allows me to search for it with level ball. I am not fond of the retreat cost, 2... It's my least favorite retreat cost because it simply offers no benefits. It hurts discarding 2 energies to retreat him, i hate wasting switches, and it doesn't open up Heavy ball (not that I would consider that in this deck anyway).

All that aside, the 2nd attack is where I am looking. It's very powerful and can be brutal! However I run no form of Energy excel in the deck. This will take 3 turns to set up and if I max potion that will add an additional 3 turns if I choose to use the attack again later. But the attack is sooo awesome I have to consider Carnivine. I just need a good tank that fits the deck. Carnivine might be the one to do it. (will also save deck space for more supporters and trainers!).

Thanks a ton for your post, this has given me a lot to consider. :)

yeah cause my sister plays almost this same deck. She needs max potions and I didnt figure out how to put sabelye in yet. but she kills poeple. they have to take 6 prizes against here and the poison just eats away at them. She also runs plasma leafeon to KO people who have too much energy on their board.. and her deck just works. doesnt rely on powers or EXs
 
I would also like to see this list. I'd love to be able to play grass competitively. :D I love this new format, filled with rogue decks.
 
Yes Speedrill has proven quite a threat to the heavy EX's in the current meta. It's nice using a catcher on Keldeo EX, Retaliate Terrakion, or even blastoise :)
 
I use Sableye/Beedrill in a fun deck and its surprisingly good when it sets up. If you have Virbank and a Plus Power, you OHKO Keldeos. Heres the list I've been using on PTCGO:

4-2-4 Beedrill
3 Sableye
1 Mr Mime
1 Shaymin(Call for Family)

4 Juniper
4 N
3 Skyla
2 Bicycle

2 Virbank
3 Level Ball
2 Ultra Ball
3 Candy
3 Catcher
3 Plus Power
2 Max Potion
1 Super Rod
1 Energy Retrieval
1 Dowsing Machine
1 Energy Search
1 Escape Rope

4 Grass
4 Blend
1 Dark

A lot of my items are 3-ofs rather than 4, Sableye and Dowsing Machine are used to get xtras of them. Since you run no EXs, you can force your opponent to play a long game with you. Mime keeps your new Bees(Newbies) fresh. Max Potion and Energy Retrieval help you attack for Max Damage. Many times your Bee will get OHKO'd so Max Potion can be irrelevant.

My friend is trying the deck with Hammers in place of Plus Power. I'm not sure if I like that better or not.
 
That list looks amazing. I'd be willing to sacrifice a Plus Power for a Rare Candy personally. Do you find yourself ever getting energy shorted?
 
I retried the deck with Reunculus, beedrill, and few others (not as relevant).
At first I thought it would be impossible with 2 stage 2's but it's fairly quick (not as quick as plasma box).
The use of reunculus was awesome! Allowing my to move damage around and mainly OFF of my attacking beedrill.
I event used the damage to KO my own beedrill sending my opponent to 1 prize at which point I played shaymin EX and an N. Took 4 prizes for the win. I wish Reunculus wasn't a stage 2 though.
 
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