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No scholarships and ONE trip for our nationals?

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psychup2034 said:
Neither falcom4ever nor I were assuming that you only had to pay airfare. We are merely just talking about airfare. The people in those other countries (Australia, Germany, Philippines, etc.) all have to pay for a hotel too. You seem to not understand the concept of "context." Let me explain. In the context of falcom4ever's post, he was only comparing the relative airfare from different countries to Vancouver. (Whether those numbers are real or not, I'm not sure, since he never cited any sources. They do seem a bit high.)

Therefore, when you are making a comparison, you also need to compare apples to apples. You should have indicated that your "over $1,000" estimate includes both airfare AND hotel.

However, the cost of airfare and hotel will not exceed $1,000 if you spend some time looking for the best deals, even if you want until after Canadian nationals resolves (so you know whether you have an invite or not).



If you don't have any friends who want to stay with you, you have much bigger problems than your hotel bill.



Quite the opposite, actually. I explicitly laid out not only the exact prices, but the source for my numbers. My airfare and hotel at worlds will cost me $656 USD ($668 CAD), with $512 of that being airfare and $144 of that being a hotel. My additional expenses will be food ($100), alcohol ($150), and cabs ($50), so my total Worlds trip will cost about $950.

On the other hand, you're making assumptions without citing any sources or giving any specific numbers to back up your claims.
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my expected cost was $1100(food+hotel+trip)
yours is $950(with your super savings that you do)

Airplane/hotel prices vary day to day and were talking 2 weeks from now.

Im not off at all
 
SebastianS said:
my expected cost was $1100(food+hotel+trip)
yours is $950(with your super savings that you do)

Airplane/hotel prices vary day to day and were talking 2 weeks from now.

Im not off at all
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My flight cost me 1400$ without food without hotel. My flight goes all around the world before arriving to Vancouver (it stops in London and Dallas). There are players that pay much more than me, but almost every one will pay more than you just for the air fare. That is why you should not cry ;)
 
SebastianS said:
my expected cost was $1100(food+hotel+trip)
yours is $950(with your super savings that you do)

Airplane/hotel prices vary day to day and were talking 2 weeks from now.

Im not off at all
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My estimated cost of $950 comes with a hefty alcohol tag ($150 worth of liquor and bar tabs). There's no way that a trip to Vancouver from Toronto for 4 days will cost more than $900 if you're smart about costs and you have some friends also going. My hotel is relatively close to the convention center. If are on a budget, you can stay a bit farther away and walk a little more each morning.

All that being said, falcom4ever's point still stands that a cost for someone from Toronto to go to Vancouver is drastically less than the cost for people outside of Canada/U.S.A., so if TPCi needed to cut some trips from its budget to make the numbers work, the 2nd place Canadian trip is a reasonable thing to cut.
 
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This is why they should make the tourny cost 5-10 dollars (10 only for Masters). Then prizes can a bit better, and Pokemon doesn't need to use their money to increase the prizes too.
 
signofzeta said:
Easy. Take the Greyhound.
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I took the Greyhound from Calgary to Vancouver for Regionals three or four years ago (~16 hour trip) and was ready to kill myself. I couldn't even imagine the horror of doing it from Toronto.

IMO, you would absolutely without question have to get there (and thus crank up the lodging bill) at least two days early if you wanted any chance whatsoever of being mentally prepared to play in the grinder.
 
We're getting a little off topic here.

Last year Canadian nationals had the 3rd highest attendance (behind US and Germany)

We had our scholarships cut last year, to (i assume) budget for the VGC. They've cut that this year too!

Side note, how can you give a country competitive VGC for a single year and expect a player base to show up out of no where, they should have given it at least two years to at the very least show growth.....

What have the prizes been for T4 of other nationals so far this year?
 
pokemonguyaap said:
I know it takes a while but I'm driving to south of France in the summer and that takes 26 hours. People in Europe drive from France to the ECC. People in Europe drive 40 hours quite allot.
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Lol... Toronto Vancouver if driving across the US is like driving from Paris to Teheran in Iran... Almost you can drive to pakistan.

Round trip Toronto Vancouver is same as going from Paris to Ulaan bataar in Mongolia XD...



About Scholarships they were cut for all Nationals. I dont know for US tho, as they have a different situation.

I think it is normal to cut the 2nd trip for Canada. If it was in Europe, I would not mind no trip at all.

Here the list of travel awards :
http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/championship-series/world-championships/invitations/

As you can see some countries dont even have travel for their champions, they have lower average income AND the air fare is among the most expensive possible: philippines, indonesia, new zealand, argentina, chile...

Canadians should stop complaining. They should be happy having worlds at home... It is the fist time in history outside the usa...
 
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pokemonguyaap said:
I know it takes a while but I'm driving to south of France in the summer and that takes 26 hours. People in Europe drive from France to the ECC. People in Europe drive 40 hours quite allot.
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Do you travel by bicycle ?

Planes are cheap enough, if you drive more than 15 hours by car in Europe you either sleep to inns during the travel (players to ECC don't do that, they rather take a plane to a cheap airport then rent a car, or directly fly to Amsterdam) or you have a caravan (same).
 
cf11 said:
Im pretty sure Canada is the only country besides the USA who consistently gets top 32 every year
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I didn't know Canada consistently got into the Top 32 every year.

I mean that sincerely, without an attempt at sarcasm or the like: since I usually am rooting or someone I know (and such people are usually from the US), I don't really worry about most other entrants. I think the only country I usually notice other than the US and Japan being represented is Mexico, and that is because I am a recovering X-Men fanboy, so the letter "X" draws my attention. XD Top 32 is actually a large selection of players, and various other factors make me question it as a good measure of a corresponding Nationals tournament.
 
cabd said:
Is that before or after they decide to not drive 20ish miles away for energy cards?
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You don't seem to understand the concept of time and money.

The OP never mentioned anything about time, nor money, when he said it is impossible to drive from Toronto to Vancouver. He never mentioned that it had to be done in a single day or two. Of course you can drive from TO to VAN in 2 or 3 days, or maybe 4, but that is if you dedicate the time to do it. For me, I can't get the energy from this store so far away, is because I don't have the time to spend one hour to drive to the store and back just to get some energy.

Now I'm living in a place for the summer where I only know 2 stores that I can travel more than 10 miles or even 20 miles away in a short amount of time because they have a thing called "freeways". Oh wait, both stores don't sell pokemon singles, which I don't even want, because I have a preference to mint condition cards fresh from the factory.

But let's say I don't really care about mint condition energies. If I have to travel to a larger city nearby just to get single energies, then I would have to spend 15 minutes + half a day, and $10 + whatever the amount of gas I have to use to drive from city that has no energy singles sold, to one that does have one, but it seems some of you don't understand this concept.

The point I was making with the greyhound is that it is a bus. People drive buses. The OP said it was impossible to drive from TO to VAN. Heck, he could take any combination of transportation for all I care. Or he could find cheap deals, and book them for a later date.


desert eagle said:
pokemonguyaap said:
You can drive from Toronto to Vancouver.
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Go take some geography lessons buddy
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Apparently the makers of Canada's Highway 1 didn't take them either, but OP does have a point. It is only impossible to drive from TO to VAN if you don't have time or money, but apparently you rich kids who have all the time in the world don't understand that, or perhaps you aren't rich, have a job, and think you are rich, when you are allocating 100% of your income as disposable income, not that I care what you do with your money anyway.

In the real world, you can either have time or money, but it is a rarity that you can have both. You just need to inherit the fortune from a rich relative, or win the 649, but that is only a limited time when you can have the luxuries of both.

If you haven't noticed, the whole Greyhound thing I made was meant to be a joke. I heard the bus driver's mental condition went unstable after the whole Vince Li incident, probably why people don't take the greyhound anymore compared to the 90's.
 
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I'm not going to lie zeta, I usually don't understand what your point is exactly, but it's always an interesting read at the very least.
 
 
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Ah that makes more sense.. not sure what it proves though. Does Canada have free events throughout the year like the USA?

From my records in 2011 Canada had 119 masters at their nationals ( =>T16), comfortable beaten by Mexico and Germany. So it would still be wrong to claim that Canada always manages a T32 in masters.
 
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