Ok, DialgaChomp help

Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by Silvion, Mar 18, 2011.

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  1. Silvion

    Silvion New Member

    Hello guys and guyettes. I'm having a dilemma, and I need some help... I need a great Machamp SF and Umbreon UD counter for my DialgaChomp deck, (which is full of Poképowers and basics)

    Here is my decklist

    Pokémon (17)
    3-1 Dialga G (1x LvX)
    2-2x Garchomp C (2x LvX)
    1x Smeargle CL
    1x Unown Q MD
    1x Dragonite FB SV
    2x Uxie LA
    1x Ambipom G RR
    1x Azelf LA
    1x Crobat G
    1x Bronzong G

    TSS (29)
    1x Aaron's Collection
    4x Cyrus's Conspiracy
    1x Pokémon Communication
    1x Energy Exchanger
    1x Looker's Investigation
    2x Pokémon Collector
    1x Luxury Ball
    2x Bebe's Search
    1x Premier Ball
    1x Professor Oaks New Theory
    4x TGI: Pokéturn
    3x TGI: SP Radar
    2x TGI: Energy Gain
    3x TGI: Power Spray
    2x Expert Belt

    Energy (14)
    4x Special metal
    3x Basic Metal
    2x Warp
    4x Double Colorless
    1x Basic Psychic

    The strategy of my deck is to get Dialga G Lvx out by atleast turn 3. I usually start with one of the three Dialga G, and on the first turn have atleast a metal energy of somekind attached to it. I don't usually energy gain my dialga, instead belting it, deafening for 30 damage. My priority is to get Dialga G out first, then Bronzong G, as I need some galatic switches. I will then try to get the Garchomp out, but I think the Pokébody lock to be more important. I use the energy exchanger to swap energies in my hand that I don't need for a Special Metal, for more wallage ( if that's a word. As you can see by my strategy, it is very time consuming, and some would even call it slow, so I need a Machamp counter than can be very speedy, and maybe abuse the SP engine... Thanks
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2011
  2. Barkjon

    Barkjon Active Member

    Pretty good.

    You just need a 3rd Collector and an Uxie X.
  3. cpeterik

    cpeterik New Member

    Well, you don't need to worry about Umbreon, because Dialga G can one-shot it with 2 Flash Bites. (Built-In counter). As for Machamp, if you've got it, Uxie X plus 2 Premier Ball or Junk Arm makes it possible to loop Zen Blade KO's. Of course, still valid and much cheaper is Drifblim UD, and Honchkrow SV can do work as well and doubles as a sufficient mirror match/gengar counter.
  4. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    Why the Psychic? I'd do 3rd Warp/
  5. Silvion

    Silvion New Member

    Ok, I get the collector, but the Uxie is a bit pricey... If there was something cheaper, then maybe i'd try that.

    ---------- Post added 03/18/2011 at 08:33 PM ----------

    I like the idea of drifblim UD, but my list is so consistant, I don't know what to take out...
  6. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    Staraptor FB X

    A 17 Haiku

    Seventeens are bad
    Sometimes, I need to put them
    Here to make up space
  7. Silvion

    Silvion New Member

    The psychic is just incase I need to toxic fang with crobat G...

    ---------- Post added 03/18/2011 at 08:38 PM ----------

    ... What about it? What does it counter/help with?
  8. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    People run Staraptor to get early Supporters. 1 Uxie. 1-1 Staraptor.
  9. Silvion

    Silvion New Member

    What could I tech out for it?
  10. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    I'd go with a Spray myself. Maybe PONT.
  11. Nintendan

    Nintendan Active Member

    Also, I would like to add you can technically disallow Gengar Prime to win. Just do your normal stuff earily game, do a bit of Deafen Lock. Now Gengar Prime player MAY put the Lost World down as he will think you will deafen stall him late game (which you will do). Simply clear it away with Raptor FB X.
    If you have 6 Pokémon in your LZ, Deafen - and don't EVER stop, unless you can Looker away their hand OR unless you've discarded all Lost Worlds they have with Raptor FB X. They normally run 2-3 Lost Worlds.
    Edit: And yeah, you can borrow mine.

    Also, Drifblim can be a decent Champ counter.
    For Umbreon, just Second Strike and Earthquake your way through it.
  12. yoyofsho16

    yoyofsho16 New Member

    Don't listen to this kid. Making Uxie a 1 of will make you lose Machamp, BADLY. Uxie X is your only out to winning... people who put Staraptor in their lists always do so accepting the Machamp loss, since it's not so popular.
  13. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    I've heard it works, plus he says he can't afford Uxie X.

    If it were me, I'd just run 2-1 Uxie myself, but he can't get the X. Machamp is dying down a bit more tho.
  14. Silvion

    Silvion New Member

    Why? Three power sprays are necessary for an SP deck, and PONT is a near staple for DC

    ---------- Post added 03/18/2011 at 09:32 PM ----------

    Thanks for the advise, but what could I tech out for Drifblim?

    ---------- Post added 03/18/2011 at 09:33 PM ----------

    Thanks that advise, i'll take it onboard.
  15. Nintendan

    Nintendan Active Member

    I think DialgaChomp does not need 3 sprays. Or so I've heard since it's already disruptive (Deafen and Remove Lost and Garchomp).
    As for Drifblim... I really don't know. Try to think of things that haven't done much. It's a hard decision to make becuase you remember times where you've used everything.
  16. yugioh

    yugioh New Member

    You ever considered using toxsic croak G(platinum) and skuntank g for machamp?
  17. Silvion

    Silvion New Member

    I have, but I don't have the room in DialgaChomp to tech in a toxicroak G, a Skuntank G and who knows how many stadium cards
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