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Old news: Japan, Unown G and Toxicroak G

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As many of us remember, there was a little confusion about the use of Unown G at Worlds last year, specifically about attacks that make your opponent switch Pokemon. I don't recall the exact play that caused the confusion, but I was looking through the FAQ for Unleashed Legends (as translated for Pokebeach) and came across this:

Q: While the opponent’s only Benched Pokemon was a Toxicroak G (PT) with a “Danger Perception” Poke-Body, my Forretress used its “Gyro Ball” attack and I chose to switch it with one of my Benched Pokemon. In this instance, can the opponent’s Active Pokemon be switched with Toxicroak G?
A: Yes, it can. Since Forretress’ Gyro Ball attack places an effect on the opponent’s Active Pokemon, even if Pokemon on the opponent’s Bench have conditions that prevent effects of attacks, the switch can occur.
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Forretress's Gyro Ball cited is worded exactly like the same attack on this Magnezone, and Gallade has a similar effect. Obviously something needs to be clarified between Japan and our rules team, because according to how our rules are now, that switch wouldn't occur. And as I recall, we've been waiting on this ruling ever since Worlds.

I feel this probably got accidentally forgotten, but it should be straightened out at the least before this year's Worlds.
 
It's already known that the ruling is different in Japan.
You can Inviting Trap an opponent's benched Pokémon if his active Pokémon has Unown G attached there, but you cannot do this here.

But they probably don't want to change it. Obviosly the interpretation of that "prevent all effects" is different here.
 
I'd figure that the 'effect' of making your opponent's un-G'd active Pokemon switch would not be stopped if the Pokemon they have to switch has a G on it, because it affects the active and the effect on the G'd up Pokemon is just collateral.

Wow, that's my most ghetto-sounding post.
 
NoPoke said:
immovable object and irresistible force
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I believe the concept you are making reference to is "immovable object meets an unstoppable force".

ShadowGuard said:
It's already known that the ruling is different in Japan.
You can Inviting Trap an opponent's benched Pokémon if his active Pokémon has Unown G attached there, but you cannot do this here.

But they probably don't want to change it. Obviosly the interpretation of that "prevent all effects" is different here.
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How certain are you of this? My understanding is that the effect of Inviting Trap lays on the pokemon it targets, not your opponent active, so unown-g being on your opponents active wouldn't affect it.

Supporting compendium ruling:
Q. What happens if I use Regigigas' "Drag Off" attack and choose to bring up a benched Pokemon that has an Unown-G attached to it?
A. You may target the Benched Pokemon with Unown-G attached, but since the Unown-G's GUARD would prevent the effect of switching out that Pokemon the switch is prevented. Damage is not done to the Benched or Defending Pokemon, since the chosen target cannot switch. (Jan 21, 2010 PUI Rules Team)
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However, Regigigas's attack specifies a benched pokemon first, I will argue with myself that because the active pokemon is listed first in inviting traps effect, than it would make sense for the active pokemon to be the target.

Inviting Trap: Switch the Defending pokemon with 1 of your opponents benched pokemon.
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Long story short I'm not sure on the ruling, but I've never heard a ruling that says having unown g on your active pokemon stops inviting trap from working.
 
This ruling is so contradicting. It keeps flopping back and forth and has since HL. Yes, I said Hidden Legends. It is the exact same ruling IMO as Ninetales Ex vs. Wobbuffet SS. They ruled that under NO circumstances (save for something shutting off Wobbuffet's Body) can Wobbuffet be move into or out of the active via Ninetales attack. It would suggest that if that IS the correct ruling both here and in Japan, that if a Pokemon has Unown G, the same would apply. I have personally gone to Worlds (I believe San Diego in 05) and talked to PCL and had them change a ruling on the spot by talking to them. But if you really have an issue with a ruling, the only thing I can suggest is, talking to PCL and POP together, with a Team Compendium member and get it down if you think something needs to be changed. I will say it is harder than it seems to get all three together as they are all VERY busy at Worlds, but that to me is the best choice for trying to get something fixed.

Drew
 
We have a ruling in the US. Unown G prevents the switch. It was ruled that way ag'st Yamato last year @ Wolrds (I was the judge that hit the table 1st). PCL was there and did not "correct us". Yamato acted like he could inviting trap up a G'd benched poke. He was wrong. Attack fizzled and game moved on.

IF PCL informs the TC that the ruling is incorrect, we will get a correction posted. So far, no change.

Keith

EDIT: Likewise, Pokenbeach's fanslation is NOT official. DO not trust it until it is released officially here and then the rules team can rule on it!
 
^ The Pokebeach thing still seems to be an official document in japan, thats the point. Unless theres a translation error which I highly dfoubt the ruling seems to be different in japan right now.
 
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Toxicroak G 's body's translation is correct,
so theoretically if the attack effect acts on Toxicroak G directly then that effect will be blocked.

From pokebeach's translation
[M][C] Gyro Ball: 30 damage. You may switch this Pokemon with one of your Benched Pokemon. If you do, your opponent switches his or her Active Pokemon with one of his or her Benched Pokemon.
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Using Japanese ruling (personally think is linguistic issue ), opponent's (Toxicroak's ) side of switching effect is acting on their active pokemon, as at this instant, the effect acting on the active pokemon, the role of benched Toxicroak G is "being switched" which is more passive and lower in priority. So in Japanese ruling, the answer of Q&A of Forestrees v. Toxicroak is YES
 
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