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There's also far more than just one person who thinks that the moon landing was a fake. And that the world will end in 2012. And that...

There are opinions, and then there are weak opinions. You don't have any evidence to justify your opinion that the U.S. is the MOST corrupt nation in the world other than "*cricket chirp.*" For anyone with half a brain, that doesn't fly.
 
Apparently you're not looking at enough of the "whole," then. Start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tienamen_square

then maybe here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosni_mubarak#State_corruption_during_Mubarak.27s_presidency

then maybe here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_chavez

...And you might begin to rethink your statement that the United States is the "most" corrupt nation in the world. If you seriously think that, then you must not know that much about the rest of the world.

Could you make the claim that the U.S. is merely "corrupt"? Yes, and quite strongly. But it's nothing short of a joke to call the United States the most corrupt nation in the world.

Anyways, I agree with the decision not to release the OBL pictures today, but I disagree with the rationale, and I disagree with the decision to not release it at all. I will take the administration and the SEALs at their word for now, but if I don't see a jpg. of a verifiable, bloody Bin Laden corpse in half a year, then I might stop thinking it's true.
 
waynegg said:
Just off the top of my head? Sweden. Very little homeless. Low unemployment rate. High median income. High standards of education.

The myth of the U.S. being the best is perpetuated by propaganda shoved down our throats in schools from the age of 5 as well as by keeping the income level low enough that the majority of people in the country can't afford to travel abroad and witness first hand how many lies we are fed to placate us. Perhaps one day the populous will open their eyes and see things for how it is instead of how they have been told it is.
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America has been a huge power in the World over the last 100 years, but every empire eventually crumbles, and America is starting to experience this. Italy, Egypt and England are three great examples of countries that were once the centre of the World, before falling into decline.

I don't expect America ever to become a bad place to live, but I agree with what you're saying completely - I've read that only around 1 in 4 Americans have ever travelled to another country, so it's difficult to base an opinion on how other people live without doing this. From what I've experienced, there is a wide variety of countries within North America, Europe as well as Australia and Japan which all have a great quality of life for their citizens and there isn't much of a difference between them.

In the schools here where people pay for the education (not sure what you call them over there), the primary language taught is Mandarin because everyone expects China to become the next major empire in the World.
 
Since you agree with what Wayne says completely, I don't agree with what you say completely, but I do agree with the claim that "all empires crumble."

Our empire is crumbling, but we don't need an empire to be the greatest nation in the world. Support an end to the military-industrial complex, and support an end to entanglement, and we will be the shining city on the hill for eternity.

(Ron Paul '12)
 
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Cyrus said:
Since you agree with what Wayne says completely, I don't agree with what you say completely, but I do agree with the claim that "all empires crumble."

Our empire is crumbling, but we don't need an empire to be the greatest nation in the world. Support an end to the military-industrial complex, and support an end to entanglement, and we will be the shining city on the hill for eternity.

(Ron Paul '12)
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I definately agree with that quote, but I'm still not sure if that can prevent America from slipping as the greatest nation in the world. China's GDP is growing by around 25% a year, when you put that into context and realise that their citizens are able to have double the spending power they had less than 4 years ago, that's huge! If a nation wants to become the best, they need to give their citizens the best quality of life avaliable, and it's not easy giving works high wages when people in less developed countries are prepared to work for much less. Looking at a graph online, this problem has intensified within the last 20 years, with the USA's trade deficit getting bigger.

I'm also not sure if we're covering every angle here. For me, the best nation in the World is the one which gives it's citizens the best quality of life. There's a lot of factors which don't involve Governments, Public Spending or economical graphs. I'll bet most of the people wanting to move to places like Hawaii or Australia don't worry as much about how good the schools are, or about the homeless rates!
 
Hahahah, so maybe I was a bit too up in my high horse when I made that oversimplification, lol. But yeah, it's true that we have a lot of work ahead of us: in the past ten years, our purchasing power has weakened, our inflation has gone way up, and our median income has gone down. These are all troubling signs, and I hope that the death of Osama Bin Laden will help drum up support to get our tentacles out of every nook and cranny of the world.

Likewise, that M-IC issue plays into our trade deficit. Those fancy night vision goggles we used in all of our expensive Middle East wars? Made from Chinese material. No good, sirs.
 
Tyraniking said:
It was? Oh gee, I must've accidently clicked a thread that just happened to have Osama Bin Laden in it's title and not realize--No. Seriously. It really doesn't matter who it is. I'm not gonna throw a party because someone got shot in the head.

And apparently THEY can't celebrate the deaths of our people when we are pretty much doing the same to them and all of the sudden it's perfectly fine. I mean COME ON. We should know better than to copy our enemies faults. We should instead learn from them, and be a lot smarter, but then again, we never WERE smart about these types of things *sigh*.

I'm glad he's dead. But I'm not that glad. I mean if I lost someone from 9/11, I wouldn't be reacting like "YEEEEEEAAAAAAAA DIE YOU MOTHER****** YOU DESERVED IT!" In fact, if you really think about it, I think the last feeling would be happy, I'd just be sad to be reminded of the death of that person.

@Poke50000: So lets put it this way. Say that Osama couldn't cause any more harm in a way by not dieing, would you be celebrating? For example, what if he was captured or officially converted to Christianity? Would you be really be celebrating?
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oh yes i would celebrate. That would be awesome. even better than killing him but do you think he would do that. So yes i would celebrate him converting and yes too if he was captured
 
Vaporeon, go to east Africa and tell me you don't love America.

Lose someone in 9/11 and tell me you didn't sleep well.

Now, look at justice. Osama's death is not a huge achievement. It is for justice, for morale.

If someone killed your family, but there were others like him, would you kill him?

I think you need to get a reality check.
 
Porii Sames said:
Vaporeon, go to east Africa and tell me you don't love America.
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Why is it always 'go and live in Africa'? You are supposed to be arguing that the US is a GOOD place to live. Of course it's going to be good compared to somewhere like Somalia :rolleyes:

Come on . . . being better than East Africa isn't much to boast about, is it?

Tell him to go and live in Canada, or Australia, or Sweden and compare it. Wouldn't that be a fairer test of how good life in America is?
 
What's sillier than that is making the argument that the U.S. is more corrupt than any country in Africa, let alone East Africa...:rolleyes:
 
@BM

He's saying that America is the worst country. I'd think that Canada or Sweden is better than the U.S., but the U.S. is certainly not the worst country. Otherwise, I'd agree with you.
 
Of course America isn't the worst or most corrupt country.

This thread is an entertaining mix of great posts, predictable posts, and absolute bat-poop crazy posts.
 
Why go to east Africa? As a black guy I can take offence to that. While we're on that subject. America enslaved my people for over 100 years, forcing them to work against their will, killing them when they did not. My people were objects and not treated as human, brought from their home land to work.

How about when one of my family members were attacked by the KKK and the police did nothing about it. Sleeping well at night, my uncle was killed by someone living in the same building as us in New York. He was caught 1 week later.

You speak of Justice like it's something easy to get. Do I wish I can do something about it, yeah I do but what can I do. I can go kill the person but what good will gome of it? I'll be the one going to jail. A reality check. I'm living it everyday. I'm not worrying about some other people from another country killing. I'm worrying about the people who live in this country.

I think you need to see the bigger picture.

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Porii Sames said:
@BM

He's saying that America is the worst country. I'd think that Canada or Sweden is better than the U.S., but the U.S. is certainly not the worst country. Otherwise, I'd agree with you.
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I never said America was the worst country.
 
You can't really blame this generation of America for slavery. Sure, you can blame the old generation of racism and wrongdoings.

I feel your pain in having a family member killed( My cousin...)

But, blaming America as a whole is not the way to go.
 
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