POP Policy Change Regarding Foreign-Language Cards

[Clear]

Yeah none of my matches have this issue. I usually keep my translations on me at all time. I can see people not knowing what a card does. And I can see how a printed card dex could be annoying.

BUT a translation by actual card isn't THAT bad.

Yeah people who don't have their translations on hand should really think ahead of time and should get a Caution.

The bad sleeve problem, yes I can see that; I always use new sleeves about ever 4 or so events anyway..

or a game loss. (filler)

 

[Red Haired Shanks]

I think this ruling has gotten a little out of control.

All these rules, dropping your deck = DQ, or something like this. It's just out of control.

Now this? Anybody agree?

 

[Lucario-Master]

Can someone show me a time were jpns cards made a problem that was all the jpns cards fault!?!?!
If its the trans it should be you have good trans or you cant play thats it not this.

 

[Narrishckeit]

Wow, not only have I wasted hundreds of dollars on Japanese Booster Boxes, but nobody will even want to trade for the japanese versions of cards that I already have.

Great, thanks a bunch Nintendo.

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Can someone show me a time were jpns cards made a problem that was all the jpns cards fault!?!?!
If its the trans it should be you have good trans or you cant play thats it not this.

Well, in the Japanese boxes you have a greater chance to pull more Lv. X cards.

So with this change, not only will Japanese cards no longer be allowed at Premier events but the Japanese population is going to have a much easyer time obtaining the higher-end cards from their boxes.

Isn't that a little unfair when it comes down to going to Worlds? The Japanese folks are going to have tons of Lv. X and high-end stuff when people from other countries, where it's more difficult to find those cards, wont?

 

[TRQLKZ]

Hooray!!! Not for the banning of Japanese cards, but that I didn't just buy 4 boxes of Japanese cards. I was going to order them online today, but decided to wait till Monday. So glad I waited. The only thing that sucks is half the sets that were recently released I bought mostly in Japanese so now over half my cards are not legal for next season. So now I have to buy even more boxes. I'm not happy with this decision.

If they had decided to make this ban so that it went into effect in 2 seasons, after all the cards I already have would be rotated anyway then I wouldn't mind so much. In most high level events I only need to show translations for just a few cards during the entire event. (most people know what cards like rare candy and such do, so when I offer to show the translations they usually don't want to)

I have tried to save money by buying the Japanese cards and some English ones, but now I just won't be buying any because I can't afford to buy the same amount of cards in English. So unless they change their mind I think I'm done. I'll build decks for the rest of the season with the cards I have but as of now I don't know whether or not I can afford next season.

If they would have given fair warning about this I would not have been mad, but its that half my cards are now useless before they should even be rotated.

 

[ShuckleLVX]

This upsets me greatly...

I agree with the decision but not the implementation. Im happy players will no longer be allowed to use Japanese or other FL cards. Yes, they are prettier (God knows I love using my Japanese energies, but ill live), yes they are cheaper, but its annoying to deal with players who use decks full of them, and I do run across players like this far too often. They cause headaches that shouldnt happen when people try to abuse the system. A deck of 60 Japanese cards will leave an opponent scrambling through your translations. Got a deck that can pull ahead by turn 4, but cant keep the pace? Use Japanese cards, the opponent will be too busy translating to get that far! And yeah, some people know the cards off the tops of their heads. Im one of them. But, because of Spirit of the Game (Remember that?), this is one of the greatest card games for people who DONT spend that much time with it. They are the ones that suffer the most from FL cards. Wheres the SOTG in that?

However, PUI has made a mistake in dropping this on players now, easpecialy with the recent sets. Had this come out eaither at the begining of this season as a warning for next season, or been a warning now for the 2010/11 season, that would be cool. But many players have already bought one (or two or three or more!) boxes of japanese cards in preparation for this upcomming season, and now they are being told they have wasted hundreds of dollars on cards they cant use and that no one will want. Again, this doesnt affect me, but its a poor choice on PUI's part.

 

[homeofmew]

/sarcasm Gallade 4 lv x ( and all E4 pokes) [the US versions] are now ALL illegal because it has kanji on it /sarcasm

 

[oneeyedgoose]

I buy a lot of Japanese cards and I cannot believe this is happening.

At first I am really really upset about this but I am starting to see that there can be reasons behind this policy apart from $$, But regadless, I am most upset with :

ONLY 5 months of warning!! Not enough time for my current investment to cycle out. Can PUSA re-consider to implement this policy after 2010 Worlds?

Meanwhile to be fair to those who hates translation but are kind enoguh to support the idea of postponing this policy for another year to help people like me. Will limiting the number of foreign cards in deck work? Say, at most 8 foregin cards? For countries that allows more than 1 language, how about having a maximum 2 mixed languages, and then come up with some sort of ratio? Would that work?

 

[Clampoke]

Put yourself in PUI's shoes. Your business model is such that revenue comes from tcg sales, and Organized Play is used to increase tcg sales. Now, when consumers decide to purchase japanese cards for use in these tournaments, it causes the OP being run to be less and less profitable. with the state of business as it is, companies can not afford to be wasteful. Imagine the other consequences of this scenario, tournaments could be cancelled. People here seem to think that an entrance fee at tournaments would solve this problem. However, tcg tournaments are unique in that participation requires purchase of a product. Tournaments run for a tcg are meant to increase sales of that tcg. if the price of cards decreased and the price of tournament fees increased, then the tcg company could lose the monopoly on tournaments, as 3rd parties could take it upon themselves to run their own tournaments of that tcg with lower entrance fees. That is why it is illogical to expect a tcg to profit directly from tournaments. Again, the tournaments are simply a means of increasing sales of the cards. We are all fortunate that PUI has not gone to a drastic measures such as cancelling premier events, and that the actual game will remain unchanged.

 

[dogma]

As a collector: yay - less demand for Japanese cards means less cost...

Unless noone bothers to import/sell them, in which chasing auctions, which I don't have time for

For players: yeah, I don't get the decision. I mean, I see how it helps out judges, and how there are translation issues etc., but how many people complained about the old policy?

Bad move POP - sort out those parts of the game the players actually want you to

 

[toxictaipan]

I just got my Japanese Platium box yesterday.


wow
this is pretty bad. I'm peeved.

Yeah. I don't personally buy Japanese cards myself, but my friends have tried to get me to because they're cheaper.

They're doings this to only make more money. It takes no more time to read 1 local-language card off to the side then it would having 4 of them in your deck. People showing up at a tournament without translations could be a problem, but they should read the rules.

But it doesn't take me any longer to read a card-dex entry then it does a regular card. That's a load of an excuse.

I say it's not my fault if the players can't read the rules. Make it mandatory to have a legal translation in clear sight before the match begins. Stalling solved.

People who have see through sleeves with Japanese cards can't even enter the tournament in the first place, can they? (without switching sleeves of course)

I just see this as, "Hey, all the Americans are buying Japanese cards because they're cheaper. What can we do about this? Ban them, then they have to buy the American cards....."

 

[Cephalized]

Illogical thinking on POP's behalf. If they only took a step outside, walked to the nearest league, and asked the first 3 people they saw whether or not they liked their idea was good. I am sure the responses they would have heard would cause someone to be fired for such a dumb idea.

 

[Ness]

And you guys wonder why it's so hard to get POP to reverse decisions they make? Because you whine about everything!

You're going to complain because a few of you spent money on Japanese cards? Yeah, t hat seems unfair, and you should be upset. But what are you going to do? Make everyone else suffer because you chose to buy Japanese cards? This decision benefits organized play. It benefits new players. It benefits the judges. It benefits PUI in terms of being a profitable business move.

Be thankful you were given until next season to adapt. Not only that, but many of the cards legal now will rotate out next season. Thank you PUI, for making sure none of us have to spend another season fumbling through pages of a card-dex when someone busts out some rogue foreign card on us.

 

[Varna]

And you guys wonder why it's so hard to get POP to reverse decisions they make? Because you whine about everything!

You're going to complain because a few of you spent money on Japanese cards? Yeah, t hat seems unfair, and you should be upset. But what are you going to do? Make everyone else suffer because you chose to buy Japanese cards? This decision benefits organized play. It benefits new players. It benefits the judges. It benefits PUI in terms of being a profitable business move.

Be thankful you were given until next season to adapt. Not only that, but many of the cards legal now will rotate out next season. Thank you PUI, for making sure none of us have to spend another season fumbling through pages of a card-dex when someone busts out some rogue foreign card on us.

Yes, skyrocketing english singles prices is SO beneficial for a new player.

 

[Cookie]

Okay, this is just ridiculous. You obviously should have given the players more time, it sure isn't fair that a LOAD of players have been getting ie. japanese cards for next season and now you tell them that they can't play with them? I lol'd hard

Of course it is a good business move, Im not arguing about that but as we see a lot of people are ****** off. Like every other time when a big change has happened in the system : P

 

[Ness]

Yes, skyrocketing english singles prices is SO beneficial for a new player.

Did I just get leveled?

Stuff costs money. C'est la vie. All those scholarships POP gives away, all those huge tournaments they run, guess what? Those cost money, too.

When a Dialga LV X goes for $2, that means no one is playing the game. It means there is no legitimate organized play system. All of you need to grow up and learn how the real world works. It bothers me how ungrateful and clueless so many of you are.

 

[NoPoke]

Well said Ness.

The ban on Japanese cards at the standard premiere events has been on the cards for a while. I might wish that it had not happened but POP are only reacting to what they see as increasing disturbance to the running of events. I doubt that this was a trade/protectionism decision.

As a decision it is going to hurt no matter when it was introduced. And if there is a trend to more Japanese cards appearing at tournaments then that pain was just going to get worse with every passing season.

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I hope for some softening of the language rule in Europe where it is common for players to travel a short distance and cross into an adjacent country. Europe is a relatively multi-lingual place. Dutch players can travel to Belgium France and Germany with ease and know that their decks are legal, whilst the same is not true for their neighbours.

FWIW, Switzerland has four national languages : French German Italian and Romansh . If ever you go there it is quite an indictment on those of us who can only manage one: Conversations frequently switch between whichever language is most appropriate at the time.

 

[Varna]

Did I just get leveled?

Stuff costs money. C'est la vie. All those scholarships POP gives away, all those huge tournaments they run, guess what? Those cost money, too.

When a Dialga LV X goes for $2, that means no one is playing the game. It means there is no legitimate organized play system. All of you need to grow up and learn how the real world works. It bothers me how ungrateful and clueless so many of you are.

Yes, stuff costs money. I'm not sure this revelation should be something that stops people from wanting to pay less as opposed to more, however. Moreover, the biggest issue that has been raised is not simply the cost of the product, but also the quality and rarity distribution involved. I won't go too much into it, since if you go back a few pages plenty of people have explained it vividly already.

Sure, if good LV Xs went for that cheap it might be a sign that the game is dying. Alas, it hasn't gotten to that point (yet!). The prices of good cards will skyrocket from this decision, forcing many players out, which in turn will cause a drop in buyers, etc... it's basic economics. There's a reason that other TCGs like YuGiOh have lost popularity. (200$ crush card virus anyone?)

The majority of us are well aware of how the real world works, and that is precisely why we are upset with this decision.

 

[Iinin_Hero]

Yeah Pokémon sucks.
My japanes Uxie Lv.X line : )))

 

[Regis_Neo]

Did I just get leveled?

Stuff costs money. C'est la vie. All those scholarships POP gives away, all those huge tournaments they run, guess what? Those cost money, too.

When a Dialga LV X goes for $2, that means no one is playing the game. It means there is no legitimate organized play system. All of you need to grow up and learn how the real world works. It bothers me how ungrateful and clueless so many of you are.

Ok, so you're saying only the what, few hundred or so who can likely afford competitive cards next season deserve to win the scholarships and such? Last I checked, thousands of people play the game. This is not a step to encourage better competition. Why else do you think that in TCGs like YGO, it's almost always the same top people at every event like Shonen Jump?

Also, Dialga Lv X should be worth about $2, it's that useless.

Other than that, my few other comments sum up what else has been said already:

-Horrible horrible decision
-Improve our own English card ratios and some of us might stop complaining as much