Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

PorygonZ vs. Garchomp

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helghast101

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For PorygonZ you have to discard the energy though and you have to rely on luck to get the heads. On the other hand, Porygon2 is immensely useful on its own.
 
I think both are great when a deck is built specifically around them.

Porygon Z with a lake boundry and a PK Magneton can be insane and its not too hard to set-up. There are a few things that destroy Z decks and those are: Absol, TGW, and pokemon that do damage to the bench.

I haven't played Garchomp but it seems really powerful in itself and should be even better when Garchomp lv.X comes out next set.

You would think that since both of them use a form of matching energy to something that the deck construction for the two would be very similar but that is not the case. Both require their own trainer lines and pokemon built to fit their specific needs. I love both of these cards I plan on play testing both of them at league.
 
Porygon Z + Lake Boundary is just win. The main advantage Porygon Z offers is that it actually switches types temporarily, unlike Garchomp, which just deals extra damage if you have a basic energy on him that corresponds to a weakness on the defending. Though once Garchomp Lv X comes out, I think its useage will increase.
 
PorygonZ can abuse lake boundary, but is also has no base damage and can flip 3 tails in the most important situations. Also, PorygonZ is weak to the most popular deck played at Cities.

Garchomp cannot abuse weakness, but has a base damage of 70 (even with the wrong energy) and can do 110 guaranteed if it does have the right energy. Garchomp is weak to a type that is seeing play less and less thanks to it having weakness to the most popular deck played at cities.

I feel Garchomp is the better card all around, but PorygonZ has a MUCH better stage 1 and it's attack is a little cheaper. But other than that, Garchomp is just so much better.
 
For me I don't think one is better then the other. Garchomp is by far the most consistent of the two which in my mind makes it more playable, but the damage Porygon Z can do when set-up is insane. They both have their pros and cons which helghast101 stated in his post.

The fact is is that both of them are fun cards to play and I hope to try them both out at some point.
 
I tried to put a deck together with both but I just couldn't get it to work right. I would love to see a good deck build with both of them in it. I'm sure its pretty devastating if you can get it working correctly.
 
You could tech in a PorygonZ in a Chomp deck if you run a 2-2 Porygon2 line anyway. But it really is better if you focus on either.
 
Regis_Neo said:
Porygon Z + Lake Boundary is just win. The main advantage Porygon Z offers is that it actually switches types temporarily, unlike Garchomp, which just deals extra damage if you have a basic energy on him that corresponds to a weakness on the defending. Though once Garchomp Lv X comes out, I think its useage will increase.
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It's a power so what do you do against Psychic lock?

Well the matchup is already a pretty bad one. But not if you tech in a Holon FF + Fire.

But I really like Garchomp, the Weavile/Darkrai combo just isn't going to well with my build.

We must wait another set for this to be a Meta game card, unless someone finds a consistent list for Garchomp, Weavile, Darkrai lv. X.
 
Flip three coins and do 40x heads is just not reliable enough. even with lake boundary and the psychic discard PorygonZ only has a 50% chance of knocking out garchomp. It has a 12% chance of doing nothing. All in all those aren't good odds.

If Porygon Z were flip four coins and do 30xheads then it might see more play. Though this has the same average damage output the damage curve is much better.
 
garchomp is more reliable then porygon z hands down. flips just arn't fun, and 110 is just a little too weak for a stage 2 especially with fighting weakness.
 
I have played both decks... so far i think Porygon Z takes the win because of Lake Boundary and you have a fire with Holon FF which makes him just dominate everything. by the way i've only messed up a coin flip once.....
 
Hm... I tested both decks and experimented with different lists, but at premier tournaments I only played Garchomp up to now.

Porygon-Z is a great deck and has insane build-up speed with the right trainer engine, but the one thing that made me decide not to play Porygon-Z at states is that it has nearly auto-loss to the most common deck in the current metagame (Gardy/Gallade). Gallade does 1hit without flipping prize cards, Gardy can lock down Porygon-Z's power und copy all the supporters (with a good start, a Porygon deck already has lots of supporters in the discard pile at 3rd turn). You can solve one of that problems against Gardy with some techs, but not all of them.

Garchomp has something about 50-50 matchup or even better against G&G and doesn't have to flip coins to attack. Other than Porygon-Z it needs supporting Pokémon to run well, but in the current metagame I think it's much better.

But if there was no Gardy, Porygon-Z maybe would be a really nice deck on the same level as Garchomp.
 
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i guess this proves that they both need a lot of work.. and probably pokes and trainers from future sets to make them better. =/
 
chriscobi634 said:
what did you run your garchomp if you don't mind me asking?
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At Cities with Delcatty or with Weavile.
At States with Togekiss and Claydol, and I think this is the best version up to now (until Lv.X Garchomp releases).
 
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