Professor to Judge?

[ColdFire64]

Where did this come from? Link please?

'mom

It's been discussed in person and the last KNOWN area this was discussed was at the CON in Vegas in March. There has not been any discussion in the forums about this, but in person at the PTO meeting instead. As Mike said,

It has been a topic of conversation, but no final decision has been made on this.

For the sake of you younger professors out there that actually care and try your best to help people and improve the game, I hope that you guys don't get cut off. Then again, POP can't go around asking PTO's who their best professors are, or can they......

Anyways I'm just saying that if POP decides to do this, I only hope they let you guys stay on, but don't let other non professors under 18 join up. If anything, it's only fair that you guys keep your professorship until it expires, or let alone get some kind of extention, IF this were to actually happen.

hey chris.

Professors get 1st shot at judging in CO Springs. I thought Ron did the same up north. So, I can't see why this is an issue for you.

Hey Steve. This is actually not an issue for me, but for the other professors, especially the new ones. I already have a judge slot on the 20th for a PR so it's not an issue for me.

What I've been trying to say all along is that when we really need extra hands, especially from non professors, during a city, state, or gc, NONE of them step up to the plate to help out. However when it comes down to a Pre Release, they act like they have to have the first rights in the line to judge, regardless of who is a professor and has more knowledge and these certain people don't know much about the game to be considered judges anyways.

I honestly dont' know why it's an issue. I mean, judges get box support for city, state, etc as well so I am not sure why they only decide to judge during a PR and act like us professors judge too much, probably because they aren't aware that judges get box support for other premier events and an experienced professor like myself is much more likely to get a judge slot over a non professor.....

 

[SD PokeMom]

Originally Posted by ColdFire64
Yeah another thing I was made aware of today was that POP is going to cut the professor program off to those under the age of 18.

Wait a minute: so as far as you know it hasn't been discussed since the PTO meetings in March, Mike himself says no final decision's been made, and yet you're posting this as if it's a FACT?

'mom =/

 

[ColdFire64]

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Wait a minute: so as far as you know it hasn't been discussed since the PTO meetings in March, Mike himself says no final decision's been made, and yet you're posting this as if it's a FACT?

'mom =/

No, it has been discussed again lately too (within the month), and my PTO says the change WILL happen AFTER Worlds, but since Mike has yet to say it will happen, then we will just have to wait and see what happens.

The key thing is that it has been discussed and is still being discussed. That's the fact.

 

[PokemonSteve]

The only problem that i can see why it would go to 18+ is because this would mean a lot less people/professors.

 

[ColdFire64]

The only problem that i can see why it would go to 18+ is because this would mean a lot less people/professors.

That would be true for a lot of areas around the world. In my state, IF this change were to happen, our professor list would drop from 15 to 9, which is still a lot of professors for my state. For my area we'd only have 5 professors in my city if this change happened. Other areas would probably see a change drop by at least 50%, from like 10 to 5 for example.

 

[PokePop]

Wow.
Some PTOs with either loose lips or poor judgement in whom they confide priviliged info to.

 

[NoPoke]

The most important requirement from a good event judge isn't rules knowledge IMHO. The right attitude is much more important.

I'll repeat what I've posted elsewhere: I'm not aware of any requirement upon TOs to select professors to act as judges. They could make the professor programme 40+ and it would have little if any impact on staff selection.

 

[bulbasnore]

Attitude + Work Ethic + Knowledge all about equally important to me. We have a lot of folks who have been with the game a long time around here, so we're spoiled with having lots of capable help (though things get tight during cities). You still have to develop people, and try to spread around the opportunities. Here's my approach.

If I try a Prof out at a local tourney and the Prof meets expectations:
-Works nicely with players.
-Doesn't disappear, sticks with assignments, asks for consultation in tight spots.
-Knows the rules and how to walk players through them in a tense moment.
Then, that person is available for premiere events. Local tourney experience, first, for the new profs... that's my approach.

Conversely, if a veteran works a premiere event. They need to keep up a good performance.

#1 thing is sticking with an assignment. If you are taking the players through their side events, you are responsible for them having a good time, and you show you care.

#2 thing is work hard for the players and the event success, rather than filling minimum duties; a judge is there to judge, yes, but also help the TO manage the event and help the players. Slack time becomes help time for these folks.

So, to the topic, what have these profs or non-profs contributed that shows they are assets in a premiere event? I'm always looking to develop talent, but you develop the folks who show promise at leagues & at tourneys because they are helpful to other players and the TO, as well as knowledgable.

The Prof test is very useful for rules-knowledge qualification. There's more to it (as NoPoke & M45 have said). I'm not sure that making that test the sole differentiator or qualifier is going to relieve the pressure you guys are feeling.

 

[meganium45]

I love when people, even PTOs put info out there as fact.

We have all heard a lot of rumors, and we all have our opinion on them...

Age groups changing, Professor Age Changing...

Until official word comes from PUI, all we are hearing is rumour (for NoPoke)

If Mike says no official ruling was made...sounds like someone talked to a PTO who gave their opinion, or thought they heard something....

man, i am glad my group has tight lips when I tell them "need to know" info

M45

 

[SteveP]

Moving the age limit of the Professor Program from 15 to 18 is NOT (I repeat NOT) something that should be decided behind "closed committee" without "public" opinion input (at least from the professors).

So, if indeed some PTOs have been told this is being considered, then they SHOULD be surveying the opinions of their local professors, and by doing so, understanding that these considerations will surface in the public.

No need to blame "loose lipped" PTOs here. The "leak" is a natural consequence of the issue being considered (if indeed it IS being considered).