TheDarkTwins
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Is that me, or does it seem that VS Seeker is being reprinted? That card looks to have a vaguely similar picture as FRLG's VS Seeker.
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TheDarkTwins
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I love how cards that were legal become rotated when they are about to become really good, and then come back one format AFTER they would of been helpful. :nonono:
Drew
Watch DRE come back next year, and everybody is only using donk decks.
yoyofsho16
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Aha! The playability of VS Seeker stuns me!
yoyofsho16
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What does it do? Are we talking about the Lv. X? What about the basic form?
Staraptor FB LV. X lets you search a supporter from your deck every turn as it's PokePower. It has some deck thinning ability, I guess, but it still uses up your supporter for the turn. I guess it could be helpful since it would let you get the one that nets you exactly what you need at the moment.
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I smell Venusaur/ShayminX varients.
Parasect's a good tech for any [G] type decks, too, with the whole energy acceleration thing going on. KO Spore is cool, too.
I really like Shedinja, too. That's going to mess up a lot of decks, seeing as a good 2/3 of decks have the main hitter with a body or power.
Swampert's a disappointment, and we have another Wailord with massive HP.
Electivire FB LV. X is another card that catches attention. 4 Energy attached per turn is always nice.
Mr. Mime is going to be an awesome tech against certain high damage decks.
Solrock has a good power, and is even worth using the 2 bench spots IMO to utilize it.
Primape is seeing no use, yet again, but imagine hitting a Wailord with that!
Rhyperior's a nice card, too. Drill of Rage with 170 HP on the X is awesome.
If that's translated right, Relicanth would make a pretty good anti-SP tech, since Energy Gain would power some powerful snipe from a basic for 1 energy.
Honchkrow's a cool concept, too. I can't wait to see what people do with it.
Metagross FTW. Lowering HP on all pokes is awesome for spread.
If somebody actually uses Dodrio as a draw card, I want you to quit the game.
I likes Exploud, though. Too bad it wasn't around in BR's when it could have saved all those [R] decks from being binder candy.
Rayquaza donk, anybody?
Cyrus's Initiative makes for very nice disruption. We also get Buffer Piece after we can't use it to save ourselves from the T2 decks running around at Cities.
EDIT: Translations up.
I smell Venusaur/ShayminX varients.
Parasect's a good tech for any [G] type decks, too, with the whole energy acceleration thing going on. KO Spore is cool, too.
I really like Shedinja, too. That's going to mess up a lot of decks, seeing as a good 2/3 of decks have the main hitter with a body or power.
Swampert's a disappointment, and we have another Wailord with massive HP.
Electivire FB LV. X is another card that catches attention. 4 Energy attached per turn is always nice.
Mr. Mime is going to be an awesome tech against certain high damage decks.
Solrock has a good power, and is even worth using the 2 bench spots IMO to utilize it.
Primape is seeing no use, yet again, but imagine hitting a Wailord with that!
Rhyperior's a nice card, too. Drill of Rage with 170 HP on the X is awesome.
If that's translated right, Relicanth would make a pretty good anti-SP tech, since Energy Gain would power some powerful snipe from a basic for 1 energy.
Honchkrow's a cool concept, too. I can't wait to see what people do with it.
Metagross FTW. Lowering HP on all pokes is awesome for spread.
If somebody actually uses Dodrio as a draw card, I want you to quit the game.
I likes Exploud, though. Too bad it wasn't around in BR's when it could have saved all those [R] decks from being binder candy.
Rayquaza donk, anybody?
Cyrus's Initiative makes for very nice disruption. We also get Buffer Piece after we can't use it to save ourselves from the T2 decks running around at Cities.
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Naki Feralkin
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Set is.. Exemplary, but not solid. It's lacking a lot of hard hitters or anything extremely notable. Most strongest cards IMHO:
Blaziken G Level X - Let the donkfests continue. You already control the field turn 1, then just level it up and nuke whatever for a lot of damage. Who cares about that extra 40? You have Poketurn if it gets too hot.
Absol G Level X - It sounds counter-productive, but again. Energy Gain, Dark Energy, Poketurn. Go. If it didn't benefit from the tools of the trade, then it wouldn't be viable, but 60-70 damage for one energy (and a discarded card which helps your Volkner's/Uxies/what have you.) is disgusting. The fact that Poketurn exists makes the power a little bit more viable too.
Emo Bird G Level X - Lack of supporters getting you blue? Need a Roseanne's Research to get your depressing looking bench up to par? Really need a Cyrus to get that critical Energy Gain to turn this game around? Look no further. Absolutely amazing tech. I'm sorry, to me this is a Holon Transciever every turn. and I see no reason to not have this guy in every deck once he comes out.
Garchomp (Non G) - Disruptive simply through its half-way decent and defensive body, its attack in addition to the second coming of Buffer Piece makes him a psuedo-wall with Kingdra annihilating capabilities (Oh-hi 100 damage for you only having one water on that silly Kingdra.), in addition to the fact that G Pokemon are most likely going to be running rampant (Energy Gain hates this in addition to their really low HP..), and lets not forget.. Oh-hi Garchomp Level X from Majestic Dawn making this guy happy.
Buffer Piece - I so happy.
btw, that Rayquaza Hype is silly. He really isn't that good.
Blaziken G Level X - Let the donkfests continue. You already control the field turn 1, then just level it up and nuke whatever for a lot of damage. Who cares about that extra 40? You have Poketurn if it gets too hot.
Absol G Level X - It sounds counter-productive, but again. Energy Gain, Dark Energy, Poketurn. Go. If it didn't benefit from the tools of the trade, then it wouldn't be viable, but 60-70 damage for one energy (and a discarded card which helps your Volkner's/Uxies/what have you.) is disgusting. The fact that Poketurn exists makes the power a little bit more viable too.
Emo Bird G Level X - Lack of supporters getting you blue? Need a Roseanne's Research to get your depressing looking bench up to par? Really need a Cyrus to get that critical Energy Gain to turn this game around? Look no further. Absolutely amazing tech. I'm sorry, to me this is a Holon Transciever every turn. and I see no reason to not have this guy in every deck once he comes out.
Garchomp (Non G) - Disruptive simply through its half-way decent and defensive body, its attack in addition to the second coming of Buffer Piece makes him a psuedo-wall with Kingdra annihilating capabilities (Oh-hi 100 damage for you only having one water on that silly Kingdra.), in addition to the fact that G Pokemon are most likely going to be running rampant (Energy Gain hates this in addition to their really low HP..), and lets not forget.. Oh-hi Garchomp Level X from Majestic Dawn making this guy happy.
Buffer Piece - I so happy.
btw, that Rayquaza Hype is silly. He really isn't that good.
PkmnManiac
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So this is the next set, right? Or the set after? Cause I love the cards already
butlerforhire
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It does seem like a lot of these cards are coming out a bit too late, such as Exploud, Buffer Piece, the Lunatone/Solrock tandem (assuming GE is rotated out), Honchkrow, etc.. Also, did anyone else notice that every level X belongs to an SP?
I think Rayquaza C lv. X actually has a lot of potential with Electivire FB lv. X and Poketurn. You can do 200, take a hit, Poketurn, bring in something that can either get KOed or retreat for free, play Rayquaza C back down, use Electivire's Power, then on your next turn you're ready to bring Rayquaza C back in, level up, and do another 200. I can see people trying to go for the no-hand option to prevent discarding also. With Staraptor FB Lv. X and Banette, it wouldn't be hard to get rid of your hand and still have the option to recover it with a simple Volkner's/Cynthia's Feelings/Roseanne's etc. search-out.
The card that intrigues me most from this set at the moment is Honchkrow. I love that Power. If Dusknoir DP were still around when this gets released, it would be even better. It also has obvious compatibility with Palkia G lv. X. The less-obvious use for it, though, is to keep reviving the same Basic for some big sniper like Raichu lv. X or Empoleon PT to kill repeatedly for easy prizes. Raichu lv. X in particular could really abuse this card with Link Lightning. The only trick would be to get it active when needed, just like Lumineon SF.
I think Rayquaza C lv. X actually has a lot of potential with Electivire FB lv. X and Poketurn. You can do 200, take a hit, Poketurn, bring in something that can either get KOed or retreat for free, play Rayquaza C back down, use Electivire's Power, then on your next turn you're ready to bring Rayquaza C back in, level up, and do another 200. I can see people trying to go for the no-hand option to prevent discarding also. With Staraptor FB Lv. X and Banette, it wouldn't be hard to get rid of your hand and still have the option to recover it with a simple Volkner's/Cynthia's Feelings/Roseanne's etc. search-out.
The card that intrigues me most from this set at the moment is Honchkrow. I love that Power. If Dusknoir DP were still around when this gets released, it would be even better. It also has obvious compatibility with Palkia G lv. X. The less-obvious use for it, though, is to keep reviving the same Basic for some big sniper like Raichu lv. X or Empoleon PT to kill repeatedly for easy prizes. Raichu lv. X in particular could really abuse this card with Link Lightning. The only trick would be to get it active when needed, just like Lumineon SF.
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My initial thoughts...
Venusaur? Why the hype? I can't think of any truly good ways to abuse either attack...
Parasect makes Torterra still viable once Sceptile rotates, but I still wouldn't play Tort at that point. Ceiling is too low then...
Yanmega looks fun. I just wish it were actually *good*, rather than just "fun"...
I wish Shedinja were better. Good concept, bad execution. Either give him a good attack, or make the Body good. neither is good right now...
SW Magmortar is still better.
Blaziken looks remarkably interesting. Now, if only you could burn in the middle of your own turn...
If Kingdra weren't so powerful, Camerupt would be a *beast*.
Swampert is *so* underpowered compared to the rest of the format...
Every Wailord card makes me want to gag.
I find it remarkably funny that the higher leveled Milotic has less HP than the lower leveled one. Lv52 seems very interesting, though it's more a novelty than anything else.
Plusle actually isn't terrible. I wouldn't mind running this in Scizor/Cherrim decks over Chatot.
Vulpix is better than Vire at Dump and Draw. The Level X has potential with a halfway decent recovery mechanism. Hmmm... Vire/Vire? It'd certainly be interesting...
MrMime is pretty fun to use. My Torterra deck would never score a KO against this guy...
Medicham is just too funny. Will deckout decks start becoming popular again?
LunaRock looks somewhat viable as its own deck.
It's Azelf without the need for a LvX!!!
Dusknoir is a good finisher for G decks.
I'm just waiting for that one stupid combo that would break Primeape...
Rhyperior is one angry little mountain, isn't it?
Honchkrow + Dusknoir = evil...
With the right amount of PokeTurn and Super Scoop, Absol could be beastly. I can easily see somebody getting 6 cards into the Lost Zone for 3 or 4 turns straight. I'll take getting rid of 1/3 of my opponent's deck, how about you?
Looks like Metagross affects all of your own Pokemon's HP as well. Be careful with it! Though, it'd be interesting to take out a few Basics just by evolving this guy and removing Snowpoint...
Where's Magcargo when Dodrio really needs him?
This is, like, the 5th or 6th bad Exploud, isn't it? I don't remember any of them ever being good...
Staraptor isn't nearly as good as people seem to think it is...
Garchomp looks breakable, especially with the LvX...
Giggles is terrible.
VS SEEKER!!!!! I can just *feel* Sableye players oogling this card...
There *had* to be another way to nix Night Teleporter. Make it a Supporter? Increase the cost to 2 cards? Flippy is just terrible...
Cyrus is a bad card.
Why did they have to call it Palmer's Contribution?!? Why not just Town Volunteers?!? Same damn thing as Night Maintenance over NGR...
Same thing with Cynthia's Guidance. IT'S FOREST GUARDIAN, SMART ONES!!!!!
I was waiting for SP Energy to come out...
Milotic is an interesting Water starter..
I wish the Garchomp C line was just slightly better.
Uhhhhh..... That doesn't look like Energy Restore.....
None of the PCD cards are particularly interesting...
Venusaur? Why the hype? I can't think of any truly good ways to abuse either attack...
Parasect makes Torterra still viable once Sceptile rotates, but I still wouldn't play Tort at that point. Ceiling is too low then...
Yanmega looks fun. I just wish it were actually *good*, rather than just "fun"...
I wish Shedinja were better. Good concept, bad execution. Either give him a good attack, or make the Body good. neither is good right now...
SW Magmortar is still better.
Blaziken looks remarkably interesting. Now, if only you could burn in the middle of your own turn...
If Kingdra weren't so powerful, Camerupt would be a *beast*.
Swampert is *so* underpowered compared to the rest of the format...
Every Wailord card makes me want to gag.
I find it remarkably funny that the higher leveled Milotic has less HP than the lower leveled one. Lv52 seems very interesting, though it's more a novelty than anything else.
Plusle actually isn't terrible. I wouldn't mind running this in Scizor/Cherrim decks over Chatot.
Vulpix is better than Vire at Dump and Draw. The Level X has potential with a halfway decent recovery mechanism. Hmmm... Vire/Vire? It'd certainly be interesting...
MrMime is pretty fun to use. My Torterra deck would never score a KO against this guy...
Medicham is just too funny. Will deckout decks start becoming popular again?
LunaRock looks somewhat viable as its own deck.
It's Azelf without the need for a LvX!!!
Dusknoir is a good finisher for G decks.
I'm just waiting for that one stupid combo that would break Primeape...
Rhyperior is one angry little mountain, isn't it?
Honchkrow + Dusknoir = evil...
With the right amount of PokeTurn and Super Scoop, Absol could be beastly. I can easily see somebody getting 6 cards into the Lost Zone for 3 or 4 turns straight. I'll take getting rid of 1/3 of my opponent's deck, how about you?
Looks like Metagross affects all of your own Pokemon's HP as well. Be careful with it! Though, it'd be interesting to take out a few Basics just by evolving this guy and removing Snowpoint...
Where's Magcargo when Dodrio really needs him?
This is, like, the 5th or 6th bad Exploud, isn't it? I don't remember any of them ever being good...
Staraptor isn't nearly as good as people seem to think it is...
Garchomp looks breakable, especially with the LvX...
Giggles is terrible.
VS SEEKER!!!!! I can just *feel* Sableye players oogling this card...
There *had* to be another way to nix Night Teleporter. Make it a Supporter? Increase the cost to 2 cards? Flippy is just terrible...
Cyrus is a bad card.
Why did they have to call it Palmer's Contribution?!? Why not just Town Volunteers?!? Same damn thing as Night Maintenance over NGR...
Same thing with Cynthia's Guidance. IT'S FOREST GUARDIAN, SMART ONES!!!!!
I was waiting for SP Energy to come out...
Milotic is an interesting Water starter..
I wish the Garchomp C line was just slightly better.
Uhhhhh..... That doesn't look like Energy Restore.....
None of the PCD cards are particularly interesting...
The Garchomp C X line seems like the most broken thing in the set personally.
Honchkrow is good with certain previously overlooked cards.
Metagross is cool, not sure how good it is, but it's cool.
That's about all that really stood out to me. I really think people aren't grasping all that Garchomp C X can do.
Honchkrow is good with certain previously overlooked cards.
Metagross is cool, not sure how good it is, but it's cool.
That's about all that really stood out to me. I really think people aren't grasping all that Garchomp C X can do.
ChaosKnuckles
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The sad thing is that when I see I card, I'm like this would go good with ____. Then I relize that it will be rotated out. There are some really cool disruptive cards in this set to. Like Absol Lv.X, Honchkrow, and Chatot. Chatot is just amazing IMO. I know there will be some really sick combo with that thing, I just haven't thought of it yet. Chatot makes me even more scared to get a bad hand.
edit: Well from the posts above and below Primeape + Chatot is looking pretty good.
edit: Well from the posts above and below Primeape + Chatot is looking pretty good.
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For what it's worth, Town Volunteers wouldn't let you put evolutions or Lv.X back into the deck, so Palmer is somewhat better. Forest Guardian had you shuffle before you looked at the top 7; neither is really better, but Cynthia is just ever-so-slightly different. Still a little lacking in creativity, but in all honesty, I prefer rehashes of old cards over power creep.
Now, can we have Steven's Advice back yet? :tongue:
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Check the DP rulebook. Town Volunteers now reads "...Baby Pokemon and Pokemon..." because of the change in wording. Good point about the shuffle, tho. With Claydol in the mix, it makes Cynthia better. Still not as good as the other Cynthia, tho...
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