R/S Donphan, Quite Frustrating......

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by TrueGamerX, Aug 23, 2003.

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  1. TrueGamerX

    TrueGamerX New Member

    Donphan seems to be bad in a variety of ways. I wanted to know about what you guys think. First of all his first attack ain't that bad with 40 on second turn. 80 HP ain't too shabby. One retreat cost is quite good. But IMO his second attack is what brings him down. Now I know what you guys say that Hariyama is much better, but he only does good when its a EX pokemon. 40 for 3 Energies, but with Donphan a possibility 120 with 4 Energies. Now I was thinking you could combine Donphan with Boost Energy to have a better chance to do 120 on second turn. BUT its only 2 coin flips and the chances are quite low depending on the flip. But after Boost Energy is discarded you can either retreat or do Rend for 40. In addition, in order to make a deck out of Donphan, you could throw in some Hitmonchan EX, Best Hitmonchan or even some other type of pokemon like Magmar EX to help out the Grass weakness. Even Delcatty could go along. If and only if Donphan had a good stalling pokemon like Hitmonchan it could be good.

    80 HP
    (F/C) Rend
    If the Defending Pokemon has any damage counters on it, this attack does 20 damage plus 20 more damage.

    (F/C/C/C) Double Spin
    Flip 2 coins. This attack does 60 damage times, the number of heads.

    Weakness: Grass
    Resistance: None
    Retreat Cost: C
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2003
  2. NoPoke

    NoPoke Active Member

    You give lots of examples why Donphan is actually a good card??? So I'm confused.

    Even without Double Spin it is a decent card. Energy Switch gives you the ability to guarantee a 40 damage attack on turn two.

    Would you take a turn two 1in 4 chance to win the game by knocking out your opponents only pokemon? (Tyrogue anybody) Heck, with many basics having less than 70HP the odds are 3 in 4 that you can knock out your opponent with boost.

    In two-on-two play with Light Dragonite active you get to keep your boost energy! BROKEN!.

    In RSon play you probably have to retreat Donphan and wait a little while before using his second attack. I don't see how that strategy makes Donphan bad.
  3. TrueGamerX

    TrueGamerX New Member

    Did I say "bad", please pardon me for my stupidity. :confused:
    I see what you mean, and certainly agree with you. I'm guessing he would be good in E-on. Magmar EX would go great to take care of that Grass Weakness, if Donphan ever comes across Sceptile, Dustox, or Beautifly etc.
  4. Marril

    Marril New Member

    Okay card, not broken. Useful in Modified and R/S Block (as I call it), still pretty slow with a four-energy attack and a conditional attack. Three out of five stars (i.e. "okay card, not overly good").
  5. dkates

    dkates New Member

    Remember, that second attack's cost is (F)(C)(C)(C). That means that you can use it turn 2 by using Boost Energy.
  6. TrueGamerX

    TrueGamerX New Member

    Furret would make sure you get those Boost Energies on the second or third turn.
  7. dkates

    dkates New Member

    True. That Donphan might be the next Sneasel.
  8. Marril

    Marril New Member

    Perfect time to reprint ER/SER!

    *runs before the joke sets in*
  9. dkates

    dkates New Member

    Well, SER at least. ER might be a little too powerful, according to the cardmakers' current trends for Trainers. As I said in another thread, Trainers seem to be getting weaker and weaker while Pokemon get stronger and stronger.
  10. Marril

    Marril New Member

    Wow. That is the first time I've ever seen ER called "too powerful" over SER, joking or seriously.
  11. TrueGamerX

    TrueGamerX New Member

    Maybe Donphan could be quick enough to knock out AQ Scizor.

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