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Republican Hypocrites

shadowlion

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Republican Hippocrits (hmmm mispelled it in heading lol)

First off I would like to say that I am neither a Democrat or Republican. I am not voting for Barrack Obama or John McCain. I am a true independent (I agree and disagree with issues on both sides). I enjoy listening to Conservative Talk Shows (Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, more of entertainment than actually agreeing with them). I just find many things about the current status quo well lets say funny and after reading several post on these forums of people arguing bout why they are voting for Obama or McCain would like to point out a few things.

First off I would like to ask you McCain supporters, Which McCain are you getting? The Senator McCain that as his record and history shows has voted more inline with the Democrats and even spearheaded many issues against the Conservative Base Republicans or the Presidential Candidate McCain who is trying to portray himself as the 2nd coming of Bush Jr.

Now as I stated before I listen to Conservative Talk Radio and I find it funny that throughout the years both Rush and Sean have hated on McCain most of his career but now on their shows have swallowed pride and support him and act as if he is the United States Savior. Here are some quotes and articles from earlier this year.

In mid-January, talk show host Rush Limbaugh told his 13 million listeners: "If either of these two guys get the nomination, it's going to destroy the Republican party. It's going to change it forever, be the end of it. A lot of people aren't going to vote. You watch." Those of us who watched last night only saw Republicans favouring the two alleged destroyers over Romney, whom Limbaugh consistently favours.

McCain, as the would-be frontrunner, has incited special wrath from the right-wing talkers. Sean Hannity, who has endorsed Romney, said of the Arizona senator: "I don't trust him. He spends too much time talking with liberals like Ted Kennedy." Laura Ingraham went further, proclaiming: "There is no way in **** I could pull the lever for John McCain."

In January, Tom DeLay, the former House majority leader, told Fox News that McCain "has done more to hurt the Republican party than any elected official I know of". Rick Santorum, the ultra-conservative former senator from Pennsylvania, weighed in with the comment that "almost at every turn on domestic policy, John McCain was not only against us but leading the charge on the other side".

Contrary to rumors spawned by a show-opening satire, Sean Hannity and Newt Gingrich haven’t learned to speak RINO overnight. They didn’t come out for “modernizing” the party or any of that. They also didn’t come out for Mitt Romney, though they both pretty much did come out against John McCain, at length and over more than one issue.

I also believe that McCain would of stood a better chance this election if he would of stuck to the issues and his policies, and letting the people know what his ideas could do to help this country. Instead all we hear is Obama the Socialist, Obama the terrorist, and if he mentions Joe the Plumber one more time (who I feel was planted to begin with).

RONALD REAGAN (all conservatives bow their heads and remember their IDOL) was a SOCIALIST!!!
Hearing all this talk of Obama the socialist did you know Reagan (by that meaning McCain is using) was the biggest Socialist President in history.

So would Russell Long. In 1975, the Democratic senator from Louisiana had passed into law the earned income tax credit (EITC), essentially a wage subsidy for the working poor. Long's measure was tiny to begin with and had dwindled to insignificance by the time Reagan agreed to expand it in 1986 as part of the tax reform act. Despite years of opposing social insurance programs, Reagan's support of the EITC gave rise to what has become one of the most effective antipoverty measures the federal government has ever devised--by the late 1990s, the EITC was lifting 4.3 million people out of poverty every year. Reagan's decision to expand it was "the most important anti-poverty measure enacted over the past decade," wrote The Wall Street Journal's Al Hunt. The exemption of millions of low-wage earners from income taxes through the EITC and other reforms in 1986 added a significant measure of progressivity to the tax code.

Enacted in 1975, the initially modest EIC has been expanded by tax legislation on a number of occasions, including the more widely-publicized Reagan EIC expansion of 1986.

The following year, Reagan made one of the greatest ideological about-faces in the history of the presidency, agreeing to a $165 billion bailout of Social Security. In almost every way, the bailout flew in the face of conservative ideology. It dramatically increased payroll taxes on employees and employers, brought a whole new class of recipients--new federal workers--into the system, and, for the first time, taxed Social Security benefits, and did so in the most liberal way: only those of upper-income recipients.

Despite his promises of less government, less taxes, and no social programs. Reagan not only DID not rid the government of any programs but added some including the Dept. of Veterans Affairs. He also increased taxes to companies to pay for his social programs. Which is Sharing the Wealth IS IT NOT???

Of course Bush Sr. and Clinton also supported and expanded these programs so are they Socialist as well Mr. McCain?

I am not attacking McCain or Supporting Obama but these are facts and things I find somewhat comical if you actually think about it.......Vote for who and what you think is right that is the best policy.


Edit: Fixed title spelling! :thumb:
 
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You also forget that Ronald Reagan was the only President in the past twenty five years with the gall (and bravery) to raise the social security age threshold.

Unfortunately, it needs to be raised - I need to be receiving Social Security when I'm EIGHTY.

But I can't count on almost any Democrats to say that to my face. I can only count on a few Republicans, and "maybe" one or two select Dems.


Now as for McCain, it's funny that you are suggesting his campaign would ever want to spearhead him as the "second coming of George W. Bush." They've been trying to do anything but that.

The reason why the likes of Rush, Hannity, and Gingrich (a great American) swallowed their pride and found McCain to suddenly be the savior is a two-word answer:

Barack Obama.
 
I also didnt mention that Ronald Reagan (adding in price inflation) engulfed this country with the biggest defceit in the history of the country. I also didnt mention that despite being known as a great military leader and tearing down the USSR (which economic downfall did not any of our presidents, hmm with our recession maybe that will happen to us) he also going against the advice of Republicans started Peace Talks with Russia many behind close doors.

I am not a Reagan fan really, however he was not a great president like most try to remember, he did little of what he said (just like every other president).

The reason why Hannity and Limbaugh now support McCain is because he is a Republican, and if they stopped being Ultra Conservative REPUBLICAN show host and went against McCain they would be out of a job...face it neither of the two think for themselves if Republicans say it is a good idea they are for it everything else they hate and tear down. If Bush jr. came on television tonight and said to help the budget and the fall of Social Security everyone over the age of 69 is to be put to death so we dont have to pay their cost anymore...these idiots would come on saying what a great idea it is.

I dont know what you are watching but McCain is trying to act like a hard liner and that he has never been, whether trying to emulate Bush Jr. or not.

YOUR RIGHT BOUT NOT WANTING TO BE BUSH JR.....SARAH PALIN SPEAKS OF WE WANT TO BE LIKE REAGAN HAHA McCain that is a funny guy anymore. (You know I would of voted for the real McCain not this FigureHead Poster Child the Republican Party is trying to throw out there now!!!)
 
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It was a typo notice i mistyped Republican in Header and Hypocrite in Thread it happens.
 
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The reason why the likes of Rush, Hannity, and Gingrich (a great American) swallowed their pride and found McCain to suddenly be the savior is a two-word answer:

Barack Obama.

That doesn't make it any less hypocritical.
That's just their reason for being hypocritical.
 
The reason why the likes of Rush, Hannity, and Gingrich (a great American) swallowed their pride and found McCain to suddenly be the savior is a two-word answer:

Barack Obama.

No, it's a three word answer:

Barack Hussein Obama
 
Nothing like the GOP in VA putting out flyers telling voters in minority neighborhoods that the general sessions met in emergency last week bc the anticipated long lines to vote. To help with the long lines, they have divided the voting up on TWO days now.....all the Republicans and independants voting for the GOP will now vote on Nov. 4th (election day). The Dems and Indys voting Democrat will vote on Nov. 5! *too late* WOW.....what gall!

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/bogus-robocall.html?npu=1&mbid=yhp

Keith
 
Nothing like the GOP in VA putting out flyers telling voters in minority neighborhoods that the general sessions met in emergency last week bc the anticipated long lines to vote. To help with the long lines, they have divided the voting up on TWO days now.....all the Republicans and independants voting for the GOP will now vote on Nov. 4th (election day). The Dems and Indys voting Democrat will vote on Nov. 5! *too late* WOW.....what gall!

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/bogus-robocall.html?npu=1&mbid=yhp

Keith

Now that's funny.
 
well that is just awful that any candidate or party stoops to such low levels it would seem to be almost criminal.

as a REMINDER: we can argue all we want over who we are voting for but hasnt anyone noticed that we basically have the same issues being talked bout this election that have been the topics for 20-30 years in elections.....so face it no matter what you vote nothing is probably going to change....just get to pick your talking head (but hopefully I am wrong and someone has the gall to stand up and get this country on the right track).
 
^It IS criminal to try to dupe voters like this. I hope they catch the ppl who made and posted these fliers in VA and they get prosecuted.

I feel the same way about any worker submitting fake voter registration forms for ACORN or any other group.

Keith
 
That doesn't make it any less hypocritical.
That's just their reason for being hypocritical.

I'd say it does make it less hypocritical - it actually makes it absolutely non-hypocritical.

Many true conservatives are troubled by the possibility of Barack Obama's policies becoming reality. Many fake conservatives are worried about it too, and as a result, you have Gingriches _and_ Hannities clinging onto McCain.
 
I'd say it does make it less hypocritical - it actually makes it absolutely non-hypocritical.

Many true conservatives are troubled by the possibility of Barack Obama's policies becoming reality. Many fake conservatives are worried about it too, and as a result, you have Gingriches _and_ Hannities clinging onto McCain.

Bitterly ?
 
I am kind of disturbed by both parties. All this hype even though Obama will probably win and still Republicans are at it.
It's getting irritating-- just the hype from both sides. It's like everyone is a celebrity now with the phone calls, etc.. There are just some things not worth knowing [about politicians]. But the issues to us are important and stay even after the election. Whether who you support-- just vote for the candidate you want to pick.
That's it. But it's true I've heard bad things about McCain before he ran for president.....
long ago. Something about making the rich richer and the poor poorer.....
and something about Bob Dole who wanted the US to never import anything.
But that was a long time ago.....
I bet you at one point they considered McCain as the bad guy too (some previous election).
Politics is not my cup of tea.....
 
Shadowlion...

You are correct. I am a CPA and the EITC was expanded by Reagan as you describe. Obama is basically proposing the same thing. BUT I wouldn't say that "Republicans" are hypocrites in this regard.... just the extremists who hijacked the party. :rolleyes:

...not arguing... just saying.

Hope everyone in this thread voted today (that was eligible to vote). Else... shut up and participate. :tongue:

Come see me in Philly and I will take you to Independence Hall. The place will put you in awe when you realize that our system, as flawed as it is, created the first major planned means of power succession aside from blood. With the mere casting of a vote, we are empowered to accomplish what used to be done by spilling blood (fight for power) or passing power by bloodline (royal birthright). So... regardless of MY candidate choice, win or lose, I am in awe of one of the things that do make the country great. Our right to vote. Use it.
 
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