Reshiboar. What am I doing wrong?

[magneto1992]

So basicly i got all hyped for reshiram/emboar but in testing, it doesn't do as good as my other decks I am working on. here it is

Pokemon x19
4 Reshiram
3-3 Ninetales
2-2-2 Emboar (ability)
3 Cleffas.

T/S/S
3 Pokemon Collector
2 Judge
2 Professor Juniper
1 Fisherman
4 Energy Retirval
1 Interviewer's Questions
3 Pokemon Communication
4 Junk Arm
4 Plus power
2 Rare Cady
2 Switch
1 Revive

Energy
12 Fire

Strategy: I will try to get Emboar as fast as possible to use Reshiram blue Flare attack for 120 damage. It manages to OHKO most things in HGSS on. In case it doesn't I run 4 plus powers in order to eliminate heavy hitters (Magnezones, Donphans and opposing Reshirams). The energy recovery helps in fulfilling the attack and the draw power of the deck. Cleffas allow to get rid of bad hands. It holds problems during early set-up. Or it runs out of steam. Also if they bring multiple heavy hitters i.e. multiple Magnezones, I also have issues. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Denjin Hadou]

- 1-1 Ninetales
-1 Interviewer's Questions
-1 Revive
-1 Pignite
-2 Energy Retrieval

+1 Rare Candy
+1 Cleffa
+1 Pokemon Collector
+1 Pokemon Communication
+2 Fisherman
+1 Fire Energy

Emphasize speed and setup with more Pokemon Collector and Pokemon Communication. Once you're all set up, everything else becomes fuel for Junk Arm to get your Energy Retrieval back. Also, you can try out switching out 2 Juniper for 2 Oak's New Theory. See how that goes. Also, I would reconsider using Judge unless you intend on bumping your energy count to 16 or so.

 

[Cyber King]

- 1-1 Ninetales
-1 Interviewer's Questions
-1 Revive
-1 Pignite
-2 Energy Retrieval

+1 Rare Candy
+1 Cleffa
+1 Pokemon Collector
+1 Pokemon Communication
+2 Fisherman
+1 Fire Energy

Emphasize speed and setup with more Pokemon Collector and Pokemon Communication. Once you're all set up, everything else becomes fuel for Junk Arm to get your Energy Retrieval back. Also, you can try out switching out 2 Juniper for 2 Oak's New Theory. See how that goes. Also, I would reconsider using Judge unless you intend on bumping your energy count to 16 or so.

^^Agree with most of the changes, though I prefer Dual Ball over Pokemon Collector but that's more of a personal preference.

 

[Denjin Hadou]

Landing double tails is quite a buzzkill though.

 

[magneto1992]

- 1-1 Ninetales
-1 Interviewer's Questions
-1 Revive
-1 Pignite
-2 Energy Retrieval

+1 Rare Candy
+1 Cleffa
+1 Pokemon Collector
+1 Pokemon Communication
+2 Fisherman
+1 Fire Energy

Emphasize speed and setup with more Pokemon Collector and Pokemon Communication. Once you're all set up, everything else becomes fuel for Junk Arm to get your Energy Retrieval back. Also, you can try out switching out 2 Juniper for 2 Oak's New Theory. See how that goes. Also, I would reconsider using Judge unless you intend on bumping your energy count to 16 or so.

ok i wil try it tomorrow on league and see how it feels.

 

[nishidawin]

Shuckle> Emboar IMO

 

[toffeefi]

Shuckle> Ninetales IMO

Fixed

But it really comes down to preference. I'd prefer Ninetales just cause I wouldn't need to Seeker/SSU/Unown R which I think saves more space.

 

[Format-Man]

You need to have it be 3-1-3 AbilityBoar and most DEFINATLY need to run 4 Rare Candy.

You will also need 1 to 2 more Fisherman.

 

[magneto1992]

You need to have it be 3-1-3 AbilityBoar and most DEFINATLY need to run 4 Rare Candy.

You will also need 1 to 2 more Fisherman.

3 emboar? I higly think that would e overkill.....The fisherman I agree on and more rare candy I will agree though

 

[Denjin Hadou]

I think 3-1-3 is more of a style choice. As long as you're running Flower Shop Lady, you'll be able to get one back should one go down.

 

[Team Rockets Assassin]

since you're running ninetales and not shuckle with unown for draw power, you may want to consider just changing your emboar line to a typhlosion prime line.
and stick to collector,

 

[joshA11]

add a 1-1 rdl? this may be helpful

 

[silver116]

So basicly i got all hyped for reshiram/emboar but in testing, it doesn't do as good as my other decks I am working on. here it is

Pokemon x19
4 Reshiram
3-3 Ninetales
2-2-2 Emboar (ability)
3 Cleffas.

T/S/S
3 Pokemon Collector
2 Judge
2 Professor Juniper
1 Fisherman
4 Energy Retirval
1 Interviewer's Questions
3 Pokemon Communication
4 Junk Arm
4 Plus power
2 Rare Cady
2 Switch
1 Revive

Energy
12 Fire

Strategy: I will try to get Emboar as fast as possible to use Reshiram blue Flare attack for 120 damage. It manages to OHKO most things in HGSS on. In case it doesn't I run 4 plus powers in order to eliminate heavy hitters (Magnezones, Donphans and opposing Reshirams). The energy recovery helps in fulfilling the attack and the draw power of the deck. Cleffas allow to get rid of bad hands. It holds problems during early set-up. Or it runs out of steam. Also if they bring multiple heavy hitters i.e. multiple Magnezones, I also have issues. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I run reshiboar if you make these adjustments this deck will be close to perfect. Do this:

- 1-1-1 Ninetales
-2 Judge
-2 Juniper
-1 Fisherman
-1 Plus Power
-1 Revive

+1 Cleffa
+3 PONT
+ 2-2 RDL
+2 Lightning

Use a synergy of energy retrieval, junk arm, and emboar to power up reshiram and do a consistant 120+ damage. Hope I helped and the only bad matchup this deck has is Mewgar. Good luck!
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---------- Post added 06/23/2011 at 09:30 PM ----------

You need to have it be 3-1-3 AbilityBoar and most DEFINATLY need to run 4 Rare Candy.

You will also need 1 to 2 more Fisherman.

A 3-1-3 Emboar line is awfully in consistent because it greatly increases your chance of starting tepig. Also why add fisherman? It only uses up your supporter for the turn where you culd energy retrieval and then PONT fir a better hand. I don't recommend fisherman. Consider rescue energy.
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[magneto1992]

add a 1-1 rdl? this may be helpful

I am going for consistency first, then I will add techs. However I will try the first version Denjin Hadou suggested, then the version silver suggested. I tried it with typholosion before. Considering I test against Zeckrom.....that damage counter hurt. And I ran unto similar problems. Even before any changes though, I enjoy powering up multiple reshirams and then judge, whereas with Typholosion you can only power one, and you really need 2 out to be as efficinet. So I will stick to Emboar for now (even if I go back, at least I will have good trait bait). So please don't make it a Fat Piggy vrs. Mr. T tread

---------- Post added 06/24/2011 at 07:32 PM ----------

I run reshiboar if you make these adjustments this deck will be close to perfect. Do this:

- 1-1-1 Ninetales
-2 Judge
-2 Juniper
-1 Fisherman
-1 Plus Power
-1 Revive

+1 Cleffa
+3 PONT
+ 2-2 RDL
+2 Lightning

Use a synergy of energy retrieval, junk arm, and emboar to power up reshiram and do a consistant 120+ damage. Hope I helped and the only bad matchup this deck has is Mewgar. Good luck!
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---------- Post added 06/23/2011 at 09:30 PM ----------



A 3-1-3 Emboar line is awfully in consistent because it greatly increases your chance of starting tepig. Also why add fisherman? It only uses up your supporter for the turn where you culd energy retrieval and then PONT fir a better hand. I don't recommend fisherman. Consider rescue energy.
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ey hum, how do i take out 1-1-1 ninetales? just wondering...... Other than that I have not time to go to league but i want to test silver version first, so i can save up money for the rdl in case i do need them.