Roserade Lock! What is it?

[mario1]

it is good but not meta changing! The deck really won't see many top tables.

 

[Yoshi-]

If this is real it probably is about roserade sf

 

[jeffrey123]

It goes something like this, rosarade UL with dialga g x, miasma, spiritomb, vileplume, rosarade gl and skuntank g. Just set up vileplume and rosarade UL with spiritomb then lock every new active with poison and confusion via rainbow and keep the lock with rosarade gl or lock stadiums with dialga x and deafen. I've seen successful decks with both vileplume and dialga or just one or the other. lists are self explanatory. If you run plume supporter heavy deck is needed if you run just dialga a cyrus engine is much more efficient.

enjoy:thumb:

How are you going to lie to these people? I've seen the list. Ive tested it. It's nothing like this. It's actually quite like a spread sablelock if you guys are really "dying to know", although it runs alot different. Different engine, it's less than 4 sableye. I absolutely love it. You don't even run rainbow you hooligan!

 

[Kayle]

If you're going to call someone out as a liar, post a list.

 

[jeffrey123]

Everyone always begs for a list. I find that pathetic. Deckbuilding is an art. Why would you want to commit art fraud?

 

[Kayle]

Everyone always begs for a list. I find that pathetic. Deckbuilding is an art. Why would you want to commit art fraud?

Pokemon is a game, which is meant to be fun. Why would you deny someone that fun?

It's one thing to come onto the Gym and go "Guys I want a Gyarados list!" Because you know, there are lists everywhere! (But note that if someone made such a topic, there would still be loads of people willing to help you!) It's another to ask about a deck that very, very few people know anything about because it is still very new.

Your argument is, apparently, that people should come up with their own list. The point of this topic is that the OP does not know the strategy of the deck and therefore CAN'T make a list.

It's fine if you don't want to tell - but if so, shut up.

 

[jeffrey123]

Roserade
Lock

Make a deck with roserade that can lock the opponent. Don't try to copy how I lock, make your own? If not, then shut up

 

[Phazon Elite]

Looks like the Trollkin finally has enough Flamer NRG attached to use his Spew Garbage attack.

Of course I mean that in the nicest way possible.

 

[MattPL]

Roserade
Lock

Make a deck with roserade that can lock the opponent. Don't try to copy how I lock, make your own? If not, then shut up

Ok, so I want to go make a deck.

Hmm, I think Luxray GL and Garchomp C are powerful SP Pokemon that can abuse the SP engine. I think I'll put those two cards in there. Now what to call it. Well I could just take half of each of their names and sorta squish them together. LuxChomp, yeah, that sounds kinda cool.

Ok guys, this is my new deck named LuxChomp. But please don't copy it, because you know, it's my creation and no one else can use it. :smile:

Roserade lock is an sd kinda, a small group of players across the us found out about it over in JPN and somehow managed to get a list.

How do I know this? I have a list

So you, essentially, modified an original "piece of art." Yeah, real original if you ask me.

 

[NicholasAlves]

Roserade
Lock

Make a deck with roserade that can lock the opponent. Don't try to copy how I lock, make your own? If not, then shut up

WOW BUDDY... I started this thread and tried to stay out of the argument but you my friend are out of control. People are right help on the post or don't post at all! Feel what Im saying?

 

[Kayle]

Roserade
Lock

Make a deck with roserade that can lock the opponent. Don't try to copy how I lock, make your own? If not, then shut up

It goes something like this, rosarade UL with dialga g x, miasma, spiritomb, vileplume, rosarade gl and skuntank g. Just set up vileplume and rosarade UL with spiritomb then lock every new active with poison and confusion via rainbow and keep the lock with rosarade gl or lock stadiums with dialga x and deafen. I've seen successful decks with both vileplume and dialga or just one or the other. lists are self explanatory. If you run plume supporter heavy deck is needed if you run just dialga a cyrus engine is much more efficient.

enjoy:thumb:

Look! It's a deck with Roserade that can lock the opponent! And we didn't copy how you -

How are you going to lie to these people? I've seen the list. Ive tested it. It's nothing like this. It's actually quite like a spread sablelock if you guys are really "dying to know", although it runs alot different. Different engine, it's less than 4 sableye. I absolutely love it. You don't even run rainbow you hooligan!

...

Looks like the Trollkin finally has enough Flamer NRG attached to use his Spew Garbage attack.

Of course I mean that in the nicest way possible.

Screw being nice, I'm gonna be honest: you look like a complete idiot and every post you make only compounds that image such that I'm not even going to pretend to think otherwise about you. You have three choices: post a list, drop it entirely, or continue to look stupid.

Trollkin used Spew Garbage!
IT'S NOT VERY EFFECTIVE

 

[jeffrey123]

I have posted numerous cards to use. Miasma, roserade, etc. I want to resist posting a list and moreso hinting the deck. I'm out of control? Why? Because I built a deck and everyone wants a list? Ridiculous.

 

[Kayle]

I'm out of control? Why? Because I built a deck and everyone wants a list? Ridiculous.

Stupid stupid dumb
Because you won't post it, but you keep teasing everyone with it just to look smugly superior and won't take a hint that you are just ticking EVERYONE off.

I have your list and if you don't shut up I am going to post it.

 

[MattPL]

I have posted numerous cards to use. Miasma, roserade, etc. I want to resist posting a list and moreso hinting the deck. I'm out of control? Why? Because I built a deck and everyone wants a list? Ridiculous.

You pretty much copied a list yourself. Stop acting as if it is your own original deck idea and that you can hold it over everyones head and make them reach for it.

 

[Austino]

I have posted numerous cards to use. Miasma, roserade, etc. I want to resist posting a list and moreso hinting the deck. I'm out of control? Why? Because I built a deck and everyone wants a list? Ridiculous.

They aren't looking for a list, junior. The OP was looking for the strategy of the deck, so if you have comprehension problems, it goes like this:

Well, the deck focuses around (insert what type of lock) on your opponents pokemon, typically by abusing (insert pokemon). Often, you'll need back up cards like (insert pokemon) that can help your strategy by (insert reason for running card). Sometimes, you can tech cards like (insert something to counter it's hard matchup) to help against some rough matchups.

It's a solid way to provide strategy, doesn't give anywhere close to a 60 card list, and you helped a player. Instead, you've paraded around the thread being unhelpful and generally irritating a lot of people. Good job.

 

[mario1]

Look! It's a deck with Roserade that can lock the opponent! And we didn't copy how you -

What is this even supposed to mean? I'm not guessing at how it's run or saying you copied me! All I did was answer the original question. Unlike some others in this thread.:thumb:

 

[Kayle]

What is this even supposed to mean? I'm not guessing at how it's run or saying you copied me! All I did was answer the original question. Unlike some others in this thread.:thumb:

I was using your example to show Alex that we had been trying to do exactly what he had asked. Your deck idea was very sound and I was pretty satisfied with it.

 

[mario1]

I was using your example to show Alex that we had been trying to do exactly what he had asked. Your deck idea was very sound and I was pretty satisfied with it.

okay cool. I just thought differently. But regardless, Alex2k calls me a liar to hide the fact that I have hit the nail on the head because I've known of this deck for some time now. And if he doesn't run it the way I stated he is diverging from the original tricks of the deck, which is fine but none the less diverging. :tongue:

 

[waynegg]

baby mario- you should post you list and kill a troll if you aren't going to use it. It isn't my place of course so I won't. Then again, Typhlosion Prime and all... lol!

 

[Dennis Hawk]

Though being mainly a trollfest, this thread intrigued me to create a deck you could call Roserade lock.

Here's the skeleton.

Pokémon (16):
2-2 Luxray GL Lv.X
2 Roserade GL
2 Crobat G
1 Chatot G
1-1 Honchkrow SV
2 Unown Q
2 Uxie
1 Azelf

T/S/S (26):
4 Cyrus's Conspiracy
2 Collector
2 Cyrus's Initiative
2 Seeker
1 Bebe
1 Aaron

4 Poké Turn
3 Power Spray
3 Energy Gain
2 SP Radar

2 Pokémon Communication

Energy (10):
4 Call Energy
2 Warp Energy
1 Psychic Energy
2 Lightning Energy
1 Dark Energy (basic)

52 cards here. Feel free to add your techs or modify some of the lines altogether. I felt these are pretty important, but of course there can be another ways of playing. At least for a deck we only know a name about.

The main idea is to lock stuff with Roserade GL, aiming the KOs to be carried out by Crobat Gs or Poison before your turn. There's a lot in this format you can lock up: Spiritombs, Sableyes, Azelfs, Smeargles etc. Bring them in with Luxray GL Lv.X and lock with Roserade GL. That's simple.

Usually the problem arises when a lock deck should draw prizes. The lock target is usually so important to be kept in the field that we wouldn't want to let it be KO'd. This introduces a way around this: Honchkrow SV. You're aiming to KO the lock target when your turn begins or during your turn. This frees a bench spot from your opponent. Utilize Pokéturns/Warp energies, get Honchkrow active, restore the lock target, retreat Honchkrow to promote Luxray GL, Bright look, restart the lock. You can get to the situation that you're drawing prizes and your opponent is just passing.

You also have Azelf if you need to do some extra damage in order to get the poison KO. For Smeargle, this works well, or even a lone Toxicroak G Promo after locked up by Roserade first. Roserade is really the best locker here - your aim is to poison and slowly watch the target get KO'd.

There's some lock elements like Chatot and Initiative. I'm not too certain about Judge in this deck, as this deck only has several enemies (Warp energy, Pokéturn, Warp point, Switch). Chatot G and Initiative are targeted disruption to keep your lock going.

2 Unown Q are pretty important: You usually want to Q a Roserade instead of Gaining it, making it more versatile on retreating.

The techs you could want to include:

- Froslass GL: This actually works here. Drag off + only 50% change of retreating? You are not always able to use Luxray GL, due to various reasons (Powerlock, trainerlock etc.). This gives a free method of getting the lock targets active.
- Toxicroak G Promo: This is pretty much the only out against Gigas... except:
- 1-1 Mightyena LA: Poochyena knows Corner, a free non-damage retreat locking attack, but why stop there? Mightyena can disable whole decks, such as Gigas and some SP variants. It also does just the correct amount of damage to any 80hp basics that need to be poison-KO'd. If using this, consider upping the Dark energy amount.
- Smeargle: Free peek to your opponent's hand. This can help you decide whether to Initiative or Chatot G.
- 1-1 Shedinja SV + Memory Berry: This is a bit extensive, but I thought it could be included as it could win you some matchups where the it's unexpected. The "worse" Nincada has a retreat blocking attack with 1 Grass so this requires some energy line changes, but Shedinja locking a body/power having main attacker as the active can change the course of the game, especially if you get the poison going. Your Donphan matchup loves this - double poison with Crobat, then wait for 3 turns with Shedinja.


...maybe I should actually play this at a tournament, it's sounding like a painful matchup for unprepared.