I'll have fun while I'll draw my prize and build a support on the bench against a deck that has no offensive power. :/
Sableye a Donker?!!!!!!! Huh?
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Politoed666
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I T1 donk all the time with Kingdra...
butlerforhire
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It's not that easy to start drawing prizes when you have to go from Horsea to Seadra to Kingdra and are barred from playing Rare Candy, Quick Ball, PlusPower, Pokedex, Warp Point, etc., which limits your ability to set up with Uxie and also leaves Horsea open to an easy and entirely unavoidable Poltergeist KO if the Gengar player opens the game. Even if the Kingdra player goes first, they would have to have a Horsea, Bebe's/Seadra and 3 water energy in hand to get a KO on Gastly on their next turn, which isn't impossible but considering how most Kingdra builds focus on getting set up with Uxie/mass trainers in addition to Claydol and don't play more than a couple Seadra, it becomes less likely to happen. It also means they would probably have to choose between getting the Seadra and getting a Claydol. Since Gastly can attack for no energy, the Gengar player could just sack a Gastly if they were going second and feared the turn 2 Seadra KO (and block trainers in the process) while getting their energy drop on a benched one that would come in immediately following the KO of their active, get Candied, get attached to, and Poltergeist for a likely OHKO on Seadra.
2 things. 1) Kingdra is the easiest example to use in favor of gengar. 50 hp is very easy to ko by alot of other decks standards (machamp does 20 with chop then 30 with choke for ko, amu does uxie for 20 then 60 with level X/bucks, etc.). 2) Horsea does hit for 10, so its only 40 damage (1 water). Also, most dra lists don't play that many trainers (assuming 26 trainers....) that can't be burned before a poltergist (need 3 to KO seadra). Assuming you haven't played any draw cards, you have 9 cards by the time gasty dies. Horsea=1. WaterX2=3 (could say waterX3 here but I'll be generous). Roseanne's=4 (grabing a baltoy and benched horsea). Seadra=5 (I'll throw out bebe's as an option, aka a way to lower hand more). That leaves, without a claydol drop, 5 cards in hand by the time gengar launches an attack t2 (due to ko on gastly). The player needs to hope they hit 3/5 trainers in hand to be successful. While possible, this will only spell problems for the gengar player the very next turn.
Suicide
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Man this thread is not about how well Kingdra plays against a gengar deck, This thread is about whether or not Sableye could be considered a Donking POkemon which in my opinion he isn't. BTW Kingdra would only be slowed down by Gengar but not enough to make much of a difference in the outcome of the match. the only thing gengar would do is decide the first and maybe second prize.
butlerforhire
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Well, to get back on topic I'll take it upon my humble shoulders to sum up all the discussion that has gone on here (and I think it has been largely exhausted): Sableye is an erratic donker. I think that is really the best way to describe it-- sometimes it will donk, sometimes it won't, and when it doesn't, it's next to useless as an attacker for the rest of the game. It's not reliable at all and thus it isn't that good, at least not for the purposes of donking.
Translation: Sableye is nothing to worry much about and its inclusion in a deck alone is certainly not going to net people many donk wins, much less Cities wins.
Translation: Sableye is nothing to worry much about and its inclusion in a deck alone is certainly not going to net people many donk wins, much less Cities wins.