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Thiago

Thiago

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Hello folks!
I'm running soblock and now I want some opinions about it. What I have to take out and fit in.

Pokémon: 20
4 Sableye SF
2-2 Garchomp C lv X
1 Chatot G
1 Hounchkrow G
2-1 Uxie lv X
1 Unown Q
1-1 Hounchkrow SV [Astonish Murkrow]
1 Toxicroak G - Promo
2 Crobat G
1 Ambipom (In a tournament i'll change it for Dragonite FB)

T/S/S: 29
2 Cyru's Initiative
4 Cyru's Conspiracy
4 Poké turn
4 Energy gain
4 Power Spray
2 SP radar
2 Pokémon Collector
1 Aaron's collection
1 Expert Belt
1 Luxury ball
2 Judge
1 Bebe's search
1 VS seeker

Energy: 11
3 Special dark
3 Basic Dark
4 Double coloress
1 Psychic

The main strategy is the DONK w/ sableye, ambipom, if it's not possible, control the opponent's hand and his draw w/ chatot. Garchomp and hounch G to 'clear the field' and the techs are there to counter some popular decks. I want to fit in blazinken FB, is it viable? I have 1-1 Blaze FB lv X line.
Thanks, so long ;D
 
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As you mentioned, in championships you must run Dragonite FB instead Ambipom G. In a mirror match or against Luxchomp/Dialgachomp Dragonite does a nice job. I guess Uxie LvX doesn't help that much, if you want you can't take it off and Houndoom G is way worse than Blaziken FB.
Pokémons:
-1 Uxie LvX
-1 Houndoom G
+1-1 Blaziken FB
Trainers:
-1 Energy gain
+1 Power Spray
-1 Champion's room
-1 Expert Belt
+1 Judge
-1 Energy exchanger
+1 SP Radar
Energy:
+1 Fire Energy
+1 Special Darkness
-1 Basic Darkness
 
^ I would never run an SP deck without Uxie Lv.X. Just wouldn't do it.

And Ambipom G is just as valuable as Dragonite FB.
 
This is the way to go with Sablelock:

POKEMON (21)
4 Sableye
2 Uxie
1 Uxie LV.X
2 Garchomp C
2 Garchomp C LV.X
1 Unown Q
1 Azelf
1 Murkrow
1 Honchkrow
1 Honchkrow G
1 Toxicroak G PR
2 Crobat G
1 Dragonite FB
1 Chatot G

TRAINERS (28)
4 Cyrus' Conspiracy
2 Cyrus' Initiativen
2 Pokemon Collector
1 Bebe's Search
2 Judge
3 Energy Gain
4 Power Spray
4 Poke Turn
3 SP Radar
1 Aaron's Collection
1 Luxury Ball
1 VS Seeker

ENERGY (11)
4 Darkness SP
4 Double Colorless
2 Darkness
1 Psychic

Hope that helped you.
-Filipp.
 
fouryearstrong said:
As you mentioned, in championships you must run Dragonite FB instead Ambipom G. In a mirror match or against Luxchomp/Dialgachomp Dragonite does a nice job. I guess Uxie LvX doesn't help that much, if you want you can't take it off and Houndoom G is way worse than Blaziken FB.
Pokémons:
-1 Uxie LvX
-1 Houndoom G
+1-1 Blaziken FB
Trainers:
-1 Energy gain
+1 Power Spray
-1 Champion's room
-1 Expert Belt
+1 Judge
-1 Energy exchanger
+1 SP Radar
Energy:
+1 Fire Energy
+1 Special Darkness
-1 Basic Darkness
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Uxie helps with trade off and some KOs, I saw that my deck needs 4 energy gain, belt gives late game extra damage. Once playing houchkrow G its good have a stadium, but it not REALLY necessary. EE I love it to get some DCE and 3 sprays are ok for me. Maybe - houndoom - hounch G - champion's room ; +1-1 blaze fb X + fire energy ??

LegendaryLugia said:
^ I would never run an SP deck without Uxie Lv.X. Just wouldn't do it.

And Ambipom G is just as valuable as Dragonite FB.
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I'll run Dragonite fb in tournaments because it have a lot of SP's deck in the regions near mine. But in my city SP decks are rare.

Darkmot said:
This is the way to go with Sablelock:

POKEMON (21)
4 Sableye
2 Uxie
1 Uxie LV.X
2 Garchomp C
2 Garchomp C LV.X
1 Unown Q
1 Azelf
1 Murkrow
1 Honchkrow
1 Honchkrow G
1 Toxicroak G PR
2 Crobat G
1 Dragonite FB
1 Chatot G

TRAINERS (28)
4 Cyrus' Conspiracy
2 Cyrus' Initiativen
2 Pokemon Collector
1 Bebe's Search
2 Judge
3 Energy Gain
4 Power Spray
4 Poke Turn
3 SP Radar
1 Aaron's Collection
1 Luxury Ball
1 VS Seeker

ENERGY (11)
4 Darkness SP
4 Double Colorless
2 Darkness
1 Psychic

Hope that helped you.
-Filipp.
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I liked the list, but i ran azelf and it's not much helpful and I miss a slot on the bench :/
Are hounchkrow G, 2 judge, 4 sprays and VS seeker needed in this deck ? A 1-1 Blaze fb X line is worth it ?

Thanks
 
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Thiago said:
Uxie helps with trade off and some KOs, I felt that my deck needs 4 energy gain, belt gives late game extra damage. Once playing houchkrow G its good have a stadium, but it not REALLY necessary. EE I love it to get some DCE and 3 sprays are ok for me. Maybe - houndoom - hounch G - champion's room ; +1-1 blaze fb X + fire energy ??



I'll run Dragonite fb in tournaments because it have a lot of SP's deck in the regions near mine. But in my city SP decks are rare.



I liked the list, but i ran azelf and it's not much helpful and I miss a slot on the bench :/
Are hounchkrow G, 2 judge, 4 sprays and VS seeker needed in this deck ? A 1-1 Blaze fb X line is worth it ?

Thanks
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Yeah, they are needed Honchkrow G is a great starter and it gives you the possibility to snipe in your first turn, etc. etc.
Without 4 Sprays sablelock wouldn't be what it is... and VS Seeker should be played once in every SP deck, because it is soooo helpful and really good in late game.
I believe that the Blaziken FB is not needed, because you can win all the games against all decks in our format. I don't see why everyone wants to run Blaziken if it isn't really needed.
If you playtest a little bit you'll know how to beat these Decks.
I guess you are playing Blaze agansit DialgaChomp, Steelix and Genplume.
Look, your DialgaChomp MU should be 60-40, your Steelix MU is also favorable and your GenPlume MU is nearly an autowin with Sableye.

Hope that helped you.
-Filipp.
 
Darkmot said:
Yeah, they are needed Honchkrow G is a great starter and it gives you the possibility to snipe in your first turn, etc. etc.
Without 4 Sprays sablelock wouldn't be what it is... and VS Seeker should be played once in every SP deck, because it is soooo helpful and really good in late game.
I believe that the Blaziken FB is not needed, because you can win all the games against all decks in our format. I don't see why everyone wants to run Blaziken if it isn't really needed.
If you playtest a little bit you'll know how to beat these Decks.
I guess you are playing Blaze agansit DialgaChomp, Steelix and Genplume.
Look, your DialgaChomp MU should be 60-40, your Steelix MU is also favorable and your GenPlume MU is nearly an autowin with Sableye.

Hope that helped you.
-Filipp.
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Yes, it is. Dialgachomp, steelix and torterra are tanks and if the opponent mount a dialga or steelix w/ 4 special metal energies, a belted torterra healing at least 60 HP each turn, it becames difficult to win the game (cause SP decks can't beat a lot of damage) even sniping his/her bench. My chance is lock his/her early game and snipe the easy prizes or try to kill his/her tank with houndoom or hounch SV. Blaziken isn't necessary yet ?
Thanks :D
 
Thiago said:
Yes, it is. Dialgachomp, steelix and torterra are tanks and if the opponent mount a dialga or steelix w/ 4 special metal energies, a belted torterra healing at least 60 HP each turn, it becames difficult to win the game (cause SP decks can't beat a lot of damage) even sniping his/her bench. My chance is lock his/her early game and snipe the easy prizes or try to kill his/her tank with houndoom or hounch SV. Blaziken isn't necessary yet ?
Thanks :D
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Blaziken isn't necessary yet.
Against DGChomp you just have to get out Honchkrow very fast.
Against Steelix it should be fine if you go for T1 Judge or something like that, just try to stop them as good as possible, but normally you should overrun them, because you are faster and have more options.
Against Torterra lol, who plays Terra in this format xDD....

-Filipp.
 
Hmmm ok, you convinced me hahah
So i'll try maybe one more judge or iniciative and try to fit a Vs seeker.

And how about Smeargle UD and Unown 'dark' UD ? Could they help ?

Thanks a lot :D
 
Thiago said:
Hmmm ok, you convinced me hahah
So i'll try maybe one more judge or iniciative and try to fit a Vs seeker.

And how about Smeargle UD and Unown 'dark' UD ? Could they help ?

Thanks a lot :D
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The Unown would be a waste of a card....
I've tested the smeargle during BRs and I have to say that it is good, but actually not needed and there are better cards to play...

About Cyrus' Initiative and Judge:

Play 2 copies of both and 1 VS Seeker, because 2 copies are very consistent and 1 copy can easily be prized^^
The VS Seeker was always very helpful for me.

-Filipp.
 
Ok, I'll fit in a vs seeker, drop my houndoom G.
- Champions room + Judge
Maybe - Energy exchanger for a 4th Power spray ? I'll test, but I like so much EE.

Almost forgot about Warp energy. I saw some sablocks that ran warp energy. It's useful ?
Any other comment?

Thanks Darkmot (Filipp) o/
 
Thiago said:
Ok, I'll fit in a vs seeker, drop my houndoom G.
- Champions room + Judge
Maybe - Energy exchanger for a 4th Power spray ? I'll test, but I like so much EE.

Almost forgot about Warp energy. I saw some sablocks that ran warp energy. It's useful ?
Any other comment?

Thanks Darkmot (Filipp) o/
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Warp Nrgy was put into the deck, because they played Giratina, but without it I don't see any use for it.
4th Spray has to be in here, once more the deck has to play it 4 times, because that is the most needed card to get a lock.
Energy Exchanger is nice,but with Judge and Uxies you should draw into at least 2 DCEs, normally 3 and that should be enough.
 
Blaziken FB sweeps DGX, Steelix, metal/grass stuff. For a energy (e-gain attached of course) 80 damage is so cool. About Energy Exchangers, they seem so newbie and all energies come so easy to me using Sableye Lock. It's a silly card IMO.
PS: I don't even use a Uxie LV.X in my list and I get easily all energies, can you wonder using one? (it's your case)
 
fouryearstrong said:
Blaziken FB sweeps DGX, Steelix, metal/grass stuff. For a energy (e-gain attached of course) 80 damage is so cool. About Energy Exchangers, they seem so newbie and all energies come so easy to me using Sableye Lock. It's a silly card IMO.
PS: I don't even use a Uxie LV.X in my list and I get easily all energies, can you wonder using one? (it's your case)
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Thanks for the tips too, I have a friend that runs steelix, then I'll see if blaziken works good.
Any suggest for a blaze fb X line ? If I put blaziken I have to put at least 1 premier ball don't I ?
 
Thiago said:
Thanks for the tips too, I have a friend that runs steelix, then I'll see if blaziken works good.
Any suggest for a blaze fb X line ? If I put blaziken I have to put at least 1 premier ball don't I ?
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I run 1-1 Blaziken FB and just a :fire:. I got :fire: prized twice, and it sucks, but happens. I don't use Premier. I get Blaziken FB via Collector most of time and the Level-Up via SP Radar or Bebe's. I run 3 SP Radar in my list and it's a good quantity because I've got SP radars prized a lot of times.
 
Chenlock runs 2-2 blaziken Fb lv X line. I don't want to transform it in a chenlock cause I like chatot G for example [most chenlock doesn't run it or say that there's no room for it]


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I saw some decks using Pokégear 3.0... Could it help in sablock bringing cyru's [inn or consp], collector or any other supporter ?
2 more doubts: 1st About sableye line. Would work if I run a line with 3 sableyes and 1 smeargle UD ?
2nd: About Seeker. Could it help in sablock? Recycling uxies for example or helping for a possible donk.
thanks =D
 
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fouryearstrong said:
Blaziken FB sweeps DGX, Steelix, metal/grass stuff. For a energy (e-gain attached of course) 80 damage is so cool. About Energy Exchangers, they seem so newbie and all energies come so easy to me using Sableye Lock. It's a silly card IMO.
PS: I don't even use a Uxie LV.X in my list and I get easily all energies, can you wonder using one? (it's your case)
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A 1-1 Blaziken FB line does NOT sweep a steelix deck (assuming your opponent is a good player) They can easily return the KO, you can't OHKO a fully tanked Steelix, and when they KO your blaziken, It takes you at least 1 turn before you can jet Shoot again. The Healix variants that are getting popular now will heal off the damage if you fail to KO. 1-1 Blaziken is not enough to win against steelix.

TL;DR:Run Chenlock or don't run Blaziken at all.
 
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