"presumptuousness" <---- Don't use such big words, seeing as you sound as if you believe you may be the know-it-all of life itself. =(
"Now maybe I shouldn't have said "almost always auto-loss vs. Kingdra using Dawn Stadium." But you could have said that without being a condescending punk. Thank you for lowering the bar in what was otherwise a productive topic, we could never have done it without you." <--- Your biased statement led to an argument you didn't feel like backing up. Which also resulted in another defensive biased statement. Ohhhh, condescending, big words make me cool right? Ok here lemme try one... "Pnumonoultramicroscopicsiliconvolcanoconiosis" And yes it's a word. Look it up. I may have mispelled it but oh well. Not perfect. Again, sorry.
"Unless you can find a Gliscor deck that can win by T5 against Kingdra of all things, i don't think it matters. Once Claydol and Regice are on the bench, Building up Aqua Stream is a breeze. I can Discard any extra water I have after my attachment just for kicks." <--- And? No Gliscor unless it donks something, will not win T5. Just won't. And good for discarding energy? Mimey laughs at the free attack cost or possibly one (oh no!) turning it into 3. Too bad you can't one shot Mime then huh?
"Never mind that nothing Gligar or Mime does stops my from playing trainers, building up the Kingdra I have on the bench with 3 energy so Mime becomes a non-issue, or using Regi Move if you made the unwise decision not to have a Mime Jr. under it. Which gets it out of my face and can power up Aqua Stream." <--- So we play two Mimeys on the field to say screw you to Regice. Then you're back to square one. Oops. Wasted Power and sucks for that. Oh wait, you'll counter this statement with "no actually it's not wasted because I can Aqua Stream them" right? Ok. And? So you use them later and not now. What's it matter?
"Adding nothing to the thread? The only thing you added was needless pomposity. I would love to hear your explanation of how Mr. Mime retreats every turn. Moonlight Stadium, perhaps? Oh, but that is mutually exclusive with Dawn Stadium. Attaching in Unown Q? That certainly works, at the cost of a potential bad start and getting donked." <---You mean just like a Regice start for you is a donked situation? Oops did I mention that little possibility? Every deck has a "not-so-prefered" start ya know. Kingdra isn't flawless by any means. And in all your posts you mention Aqua Pump being an OHKO on all things in Gligar. So? You sacrifice the ability to hit Gligar AT ALL, just to OHKO the pawns like Mime and Venomoth in one hit? Uhhh.... sweet why didn't you just say "I'll play into your hand" from the beginning and not attack people in response to your own mis-use of words? -shrug-
Go ahead and attack me pal. I'm not too far from certain your one of the many people who will try and find some reason to attack me because I am trying to even the playing field here, and you don't like it. So you are welcome to do what ya please. Idc.
RE: Regice start
I run Mantyke/Mantine to deal with the high retreat costs of my non-Kingdra Waters.. A Single Rosanne's + 1 W Energy means that I can retreat Regice. Regice has 90 HP, meaning I'm only donked against something crazy like Groudonk. Thus, a Regice start may only set me back a single turn, and in the meantime Regice can absorb hits while I build up Kingdra and Claydol, etc, seeing as it will spend most of its time on the bench anyway, and may not even be practical on the bench later.
Re: Attacking people:
This is a discussion topic. You posit arguments and go back and forth. Disagreeing with you is an attack on your argument, not on you personally. Arguments are not people. I found rroaryh's condescension at the end of his post offensive and I called him out on it. If anything, that was a defense, not an attack.
Now, let my explain why I think Dawn Stadium makes the Scorpio-Kingdra matchup heavily slanted towards Kingdra:
Kingdra has 130 HP, 1 retreat, and requires 0-1 energy to attack. Gliscor Lv. X has 110 HP, the ability to poison and paralyze once on its way in, an attack for 80 that leaves it open, and an attack for 60 that lets it retreat.
In a scenario where you would use Night Slash on a fresh Kingdra, you put Gliscor out, evolve it, and then hit it with Night Slash. The total damage dealt with poison added is 70. Kingdra has 60 HP left.
With Dawn Stadium in play, I can attach a Water energy, healing 10 damage and removing poison and paralysis. Kingdra has 70 HP left now, so Gliscor can still take it out.
But, suppose I have a second undamaged (or lightly damaged) Kingdra on my bench. I can switch my current Kingdra out for my new fresh one, and then attack whatever you have out.
Now, you can't do more than 60 damage unless you have another Gliscor Lv. X in your hand. If you do, you can repeat the same process with Night Slash, and now my second Kingdra is in pretty much the same condition as the first.
However, I can now retreat that Kingdra, put in my original Kingdra, and attach a water energy to it. It now has 80 HP remaining, meaning it is out of KO range even if another Gliscor Lv. X were to come out (which it can't given the scenario I've illustrated.
My point is mostly that attaching 2 Water energies while Dawn Stadium is out removes Gliscor Lv. X's paralysis loop strategy, and forces it to eventually use Pester for a kill or else be overwhelmed by constant attacks from Kingdra. Eventually. Kingdra will have enough W to KO a theoretical Mime Jr. + Mr. Mime with Aqua Stream If fact, you once you can hit it you can Snipe the other Mime wall and take that out without reducing Aqua Stream's strength at all). Even if you keep putting up Mime Walls, your opponent is scoring prizes at a greater rate than you are, and thus you are being slowly forced into a no-win situation unless you put Gliscor, your oonly heavy hitter, at risk.
The problem with using Night Slash is that you lose the chance for an 80 damage Pester unless you have another Gliscor Lv. X in hand. Even if you Burn on the way out, Dawn Stadium will just let them heal the burn. They may even get lucky with a heads.
Scorpio will get stronger though when IFDS comes out. Heatran Lv, X just makes the triple status loop so much more deadly.
Edit: Actually, one intriguing thing about Dawn Stadium and its potential to mess up Aqua Stream makes me think about teching Unown R, maybe with Unown E to prevent Night Slash from OHKO'ing it. Nah...
. there are many factors you are failing to express in this, one as ive mentioned is its versatillity... this means it can throw anything blue in and not feel the pressure. theres also a tasty tech that has been in play for ages that no one has used, though i think it could really cause you problems. another problem quite simply is a deck that hits the bench.
