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I'd still go for the reason I go to most official events:
Enjoying playing the game with people.
Seniors getting Worlds CP
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Says who? You?
I'd still go for the reason I go to most official events:
Enjoying playing the game with people.
z-man
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Well I think that winning BRs should only give you 1 point at most. Not too many people only play events for CP. I think BRs are fun and don't need the extra competitive element. In 2011, you could get up to 16 CP (1/3 of what you needed for an invite) from BRs. That goes against the spirit of BRs. BRs are supposed to be casual and an introduction to premier events. As a result, no one should need to win them. Giving CP is good because it introduces the concept of CP, but in 2011, it was simply ridiculous.
Shino Bug Master
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Taking away points from brs completelyand utterly makes them pointless. They just become a league event witha few pack prizes that P!P shows locations for on their websites. I love the game and play it for fun too, but i'm not going to drive 2/3 hours to get the same result as my league experience.
And yes, a cutoff! As bad/weird as some news has been, a 3rd available Regional, a new location for Worlds and a cutoff for an invite are really shaping this season up!
"The Battle Road Autumn tournaments are designed to provide players with small, entry-level events on a local scale. These events are a great way to get your feet wet in the world of Premier Events."
Ive only played Pokemon for about 3 years, this has never been the case at any of the Battle Road I've attended.
It still says "In the world of Premier Events" which would mean for me also that there would be a chance to do something for the rating.
Normally there are a lot of local "non Premier" events going on at any location, which would be the really entry-level events, while BR's should be at least a little bit more competitive with the chance of doing something for a possible invite.
But back to Topic:
I think it would be not fair at all to cut the World CP's for the upaging Seniors. I know that Seniors aren't as competitive as Masters are, but they have still a competition and I think that doing well at worlds is something not that easy in every age group.
In most sports it DOES bring you an advantage to do good in the last season, simply because you get a lot more money and you are better sponsored if you do better. Well because we don't need sponsors for Pokémon I think to start with some points is a good thing to have, and because of the new point-cut-off thingy it doesn't even matter for your invite, because everyone now is the only one responsible for getting his invite.
(P.S. if there are mistakes up there I am sorry, but to write in a non-native language at 7AM is not easy:lol::lol
psychup2034
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In the New York/New Jersey/Pennsylvania area, there are around 15 people who compete for a Worlds invite. Every single one of us will continue to go to Battle Roads as long as they give any CPs, especially now that it's only Swiss rounds (tournaments end quicker).
z-man
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Would you stop going to BRs altogether if they didn't offer CP at all? Obviously you wouldn't travel as much, but would you not even go to the ones that are close to you? IMO, the best finish limit should be reduced significantly along with the theoretical CP reduction
SlimeyGrimey
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Ridiculous. So they should get nothing? Don't you think a Senior who has recently aged up is going to have a hard time earning championship points anyway? Who are they hurting by having those points? If top 16 in seniors is not an accomplishment you should have no problem passing those players.
Pidgeotto Trainer
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BRs 2008-2011 were very close to meaningless for invites. 0 CPs would not be so different. Attendance will go down some, but I really don't think very much. Probably to the levels they were in 2008-2011.
ShadowGuard
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The imo best idea for Battle Roads would be to keep CP as they are but reduced best finish limit a very low number, like 3-4. That still rewards winning Battle Roads, exspecially for beginners, but ends the hunt for points at Battle Roads as it happened last year.
FirestormXVI
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Isn't that what they want? To lessen the strain on Battle Roads? I don't think it would completely kill the events either. People would stop traveling out of their way for them, but I think they'd still attend the local ones.
Edit: Oh apparently there was another page. I'm good at the internet.
baby mario
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I don't see how cutting CPs would be a 'death sentence' for BRs.
So it makes them like league does it? People still show up to that, don't they?
It WOULD probably be a death sentence for the 50+ Masters BRs, that's true, but that was ridiculous anyway. They would just go back to being small entry-level local tournaments.
Which is what they are supposed to be in the first place.
So it makes them like league does it? People still show up to that, don't they?
It WOULD probably be a death sentence for the 50+ Masters BRs, that's true, but that was ridiculous anyway. They would just go back to being small entry-level local tournaments.
Which is what they are supposed to be in the first place.
bullados
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Actually, according to my area PTO, removing CPs from BRs might actually increase his attendance in the area. Simply because there's less competition and more fun, more people would be willing to show up. This is what happened at his Prereleases after they removed the Box. It happened again after the ubercompetitive players stopped playing at Pres. It didn't skyrocket, but it increased something like 20% afterwards.
TheDarkTwins
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I don't think you can compare the two, and frankly I don't agree with that PTO. I think that you have to realize how many players travel to BRs to try and earn a CP. I have 8 events that I can go to this fall, if there are no CP for the events, it would be a definite consideration to NOT go to any of them. I would definitely skip 5 of the 8, but it could end up being all of them.
Drew
Pidgeotto Trainer
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If you are that upset at not going to BRs, then still go to BRs. If you wouldn't go without CPs, then enjoy the other activities you would seem to choose over attending small tournaments, or more likely, take care of your job/school/family and save some money and time for your regionals trip and cities marathon.
Pooka
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Although I'm sure that the guys from TPCi have put a ton of thought into this, my biggest worry is that the cutoff will be unreasonable. If you base it off of 2011-12's numbers, there's a good chance that a lot of people won't hit that mark because of no top cut at Battle Roads (and the possibility of 0-1 points instead of 2). Honestly I would fear the most for the younger divisions, who might have to travel a ridiculous amount to have an opportunity at an invite. Again, I'm sure they have taken this into consideration, but there is a risk involved with setting a point benchmark as opposed to taking the Top X spots.
P_A
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Yeah, I'm not sure I agree with that PTO either - at least in my opinion. I attended another PTO's pre's when it changed over from the box to the packs, due to the surety of getting the extra packs (compared with my poor showing during the uber competitive box winning phase) for both my family and people who rode with me. I was also still getting the cards before retail got them - impatient I guess. So there were good tangible reasons to add to attendance then. Other than a decreased sense of competition, I can't see why people would spend a large amount of money to travel extensively to BR's if there wasn't something else to gain (like CP's) besides a small amount of packs. It's just not financially wise. Of course that's not to say that people don't blow their money on silly things - we all do at one point or another. I just can't see that being the norm though. Hey, that's my opinion. :wink:
ShadowCard
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Does this means tiebreakers and the premier rating don't matter at all now?
Without CPs, isn't that removing BRs from the Premier event series? How is that different from any tournament a LO can do at league?
This only happens if the location has a larger weekly average league attendance than the tournament event.
Without CPs, isn't that removing BRs from the Premier event series? How is that different from any tournament a LO can do at league?
Why wouldn't that be attributed to a growth in the game rather than the change of award structure?
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