I think the issue is moving away from "Ross wears a watch" to "should watches be allowed"
Slow Play Being Allowed Too Often? EDIT: Stance adjusted.
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I think the issue is moving away from "Ross wears a watch" to "should watches be allowed"
Glumanda
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@ "The watch issue"
I think a wristwatch is a completely normal accessoire many people wear in everyday life. We really want to prohibit people from wearing some of the most normal things in life? Come on, this is ridiculous. Instead, train judges to be aware of players looking at their wristwatch at the beginning of the round and then like every two minutes towards the end of the game to assess real stalling.
@ Slow play
I begin watching the Top 8 match between Matt and Ross. After 16 minutes I stopped it because I had enough. What follows is not be intended to be an attack on Ross but I made some observations there which puzzle me (oh, this is not intended as an attack to the judges either, just to invoke some discussion).
1. Very to the beginning, the first search card is played by Ross: a Level Ball. I know that players like to look through their deck to find out if crucial cards are prized and this is acceptable to a certain extent, but this process takes nearly 90 seconds in this case. This is way too much. I mean, if this would be a 30-minute round, an amount of 5% of the total time would have been spent ON ONE SINGLE ACTION. Sorry, for me this is an automatic Warning for Slow Play. There were many judges, who were judging very harsh on the note taking with Azelf, stopping the player to write things down after 15 or 20 seconds. I do not understand why identifying prizes for an amount of more than minute is accepted.
2. Between minutes 12 and 16 there are three consecutive turn, where in turn 1 you see a tank of 40 seconds and then attack with Tynamo, in turn 2 you see a tank of 35 seconds and then an attack with Tynamo , and in turn 3 the playing of the second Lightning on Ray EX and then another long tank prior to an attack with Tynamo. Seriously, after that first turn the board position does not change like at all. The situation is always the same and there is no need to think through everything again. In general, I see this too often in coverage videos. Player thinks for 20-25 seconds, then places down a basic on the bench and then goes on to think for ANOTHER 20-25 seconds to make the next decision. Sorry, the board situation changed not drastically and I can expect you to make the next step faster than that. Again, at latest in the third turn of this series I would have issued the next warning because time is eaten without advancing the game state.
In my opinion, players really got to the habit to slow playing too much. My impression it, that you will not solve this by cure the symptoms and increase the time limit to 75 minutes. As reported, matches are STILL going to time then. Instead, I feel that you should try to cure the disease and finally go and enforce the rules on Slow Play in a more appropriate way.
I think a wristwatch is a completely normal accessoire many people wear in everyday life. We really want to prohibit people from wearing some of the most normal things in life? Come on, this is ridiculous. Instead, train judges to be aware of players looking at their wristwatch at the beginning of the round and then like every two minutes towards the end of the game to assess real stalling.
@ Slow play
I begin watching the Top 8 match between Matt and Ross. After 16 minutes I stopped it because I had enough. What follows is not be intended to be an attack on Ross but I made some observations there which puzzle me (oh, this is not intended as an attack to the judges either, just to invoke some discussion).
1. Very to the beginning, the first search card is played by Ross: a Level Ball. I know that players like to look through their deck to find out if crucial cards are prized and this is acceptable to a certain extent, but this process takes nearly 90 seconds in this case. This is way too much. I mean, if this would be a 30-minute round, an amount of 5% of the total time would have been spent ON ONE SINGLE ACTION. Sorry, for me this is an automatic Warning for Slow Play. There were many judges, who were judging very harsh on the note taking with Azelf, stopping the player to write things down after 15 or 20 seconds. I do not understand why identifying prizes for an amount of more than minute is accepted.
2. Between minutes 12 and 16 there are three consecutive turn, where in turn 1 you see a tank of 40 seconds and then attack with Tynamo, in turn 2 you see a tank of 35 seconds and then an attack with Tynamo , and in turn 3 the playing of the second Lightning on Ray EX and then another long tank prior to an attack with Tynamo. Seriously, after that first turn the board position does not change like at all. The situation is always the same and there is no need to think through everything again. In general, I see this too often in coverage videos. Player thinks for 20-25 seconds, then places down a basic on the bench and then goes on to think for ANOTHER 20-25 seconds to make the next decision. Sorry, the board situation changed not drastically and I can expect you to make the next step faster than that. Again, at latest in the third turn of this series I would have issued the next warning because time is eaten without advancing the game state.
In my opinion, players really got to the habit to slow playing too much. My impression it, that you will not solve this by cure the symptoms and increase the time limit to 75 minutes. As reported, matches are STILL going to time then. Instead, I feel that you should try to cure the disease and finally go and enforce the rules on Slow Play in a more appropriate way.
r3skyline
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ryanvergel
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That would be difficult to do if your watch was worn differently than normal. Sideways, for example.
Just wanted to chime in on that one part.
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