Something funny about these EVs...

Discussion in 'Electronic Games' started by Regis_Neo, Aug 14, 2007.

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  1. Regis_Neo

    Regis_Neo Moderator

    Ok, basically its like this: I'd EV trained this one Pokemon with a simple 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd spread, but I'd mistakenly trained it 254 in attack and 250 in Spd. So anyways, I give it 1 Keplsy Berry to bring its Atk down by 10, then I retrained it so that it had the 6/252/252 spread.

    Now the problem is, the Atk stat is not correctly reflecting the changes. All the other stats are what they should be at that level (50), but for some reason the Atk stat is far below what it should be (132 as opposed to 150, which is what it should be). Any ideas as to why this is?
     
  2. Pooka

    Pooka Master Trainer

    If the EVs are over 100, one stat-reducing Berry brings the EVs back down to 100.
     
  3. ColdCoates90

    ColdCoates90 Active Member

    yep.
     
  4. Regis_Neo

    Regis_Neo Moderator

    Ok, thanks. I'd never messed up on EV training before, so this explains it. Go ahead and close mods.
     
  5. EeveeLover929

    EeveeLover929 New Member

    I can't believe you didn't know that. I'm a Newb when it comes to EV Training and I remember the hundred EV rule.
     
  6. Marril

    Marril New Member

    I actually didn't know that, although the reason for that is because I've never used the EV down berries, nor bothered to look up what they do because I've never needed them yet.
     
  7. Regis_Neo

    Regis_Neo Moderator

    Well, put it this way: except for the above mentioned incident, I've always EV trained my Pokemon (over 30 mind you) and got the EVs right 100% of the time, so I never had a need to use them. I knew that EV reducing berries normally -10 from the EV in question since that's common knowledge, but most places don't exactly mention they'll smack it back down to 100 if you're over 100 EVs in that stat.
     
  8. garsh0p

    garsh0p New Member

    i'm sorry but that post was completely unnecessary. you have no right to bash someone for simply asking a question, much less if you admit you're not an expert yourself. we don't really need that kind of attitude.

    very few people that i know are aware of the way the EV reducing berries work when you have over 100 EVs.
     
  9. The Phenom1993

    The Phenom1993 New Member

    Don't the EV berries reduce 10 EVs from that stat?
     
  10. garsh0p

    garsh0p New Member

    if you have over 100 EVs, the berry brings it down to 100 EVs. each subsequent berry will reduce EVs by 10.
     
  11. EeveeLover929

    EeveeLover929 New Member

    Dude, I wasn't bashing him. I simply did not realize that some people didn't know it, and was surprised. That's all. I'm lucky, the site I checked out for it included that in the explanation. Don't have a cow.
     
  12. vaporeon

    vaporeon Moderator

    Did not know that.
     
  13. charmander rox

    charmander rox New Member

    I have over 700 Tomato, Kelpsey, Grepa, Hondew, and Qualot Berries, and 999 Pomeg Berries, and now people are telling me they are worthless, because you can't re-EV Lv. 100s!
     
  14. Marril

    Marril New Member

    I never was able to get a definitive answer as to whether or not stats are ever recalculated at any point. Boxing seems like it still would. The only issue is if EV gain is simply shut off completely at 100, which would be stupid as ****.
     
  15. Pooka

    Pooka Master Trainer

    Boxing doesn't work anymore. Stat points gained from EVs are gained by leveling up, so you can't re-EV at Level 100, sadly.
     
  16. Marril

    Marril New Member

    Yes, see, that's exactly the type of answer that doesn't say a bloody thing. Stat points from EVs aren't solely gained from levelling up. It's never worked that way. Levelling up is simply the most common way for a Pokémon's total stats to be recalculated. This is how the Box Trick works/worked—stats are (or were) recalculated upon boxing.

    Thus my questions are: Does boxing or trading or anything recalculate stats like it used to, and if so and assuming the Box Trick doesn't work, is this due to something patently retarded like physical EV accumulation simply being "shut off" in some manner?

    Then again, if the question's too advanced for the 'Gym, I could always ask elsewhere...
     
  17. EeveeLover929

    EeveeLover929 New Member

    Hey, I'll take 396 of each of your hands. Just name your price (I don't make payments in pokemon for items though. Sorry.) Actually, never mind. My game won't be able to handle that many low-level common pokemon for the trading, and it's easier (and costs less. Pokeballs you see) to just go to the Berry people and get the berries from them.
     
  18. Pooka

    Pooka Master Trainer

    I was simply telling you what I knew about the subject. Sorry if my answer didn't satisfy your superior intelligence. lol
     
  19. Marril

    Marril New Member

    Considering that every single time this topic has come up, I've asked that question, and every single time I've never gotten an answer beyond what you've posted there, I'm kind of annoyed that nobody seems to know definitively if the box trick still works or not, and if not, why it doesn't.
     
  20. EeveeLover929

    EeveeLover929 New Member

    That's probably because no one knows if the Box Trick works yet. But see, no one is going to care anymore except for those of you foolish enough to bring your pokemon to lv. 100 in the first place. We now have a new trick, one I affectionately call "the lv. 100 Modifier" Trick. It's simple. We just use the level 100 modifier every time, meaning that there's no reason o level all the way to 100, making it easy to re-adjust EVs. Now, for those of you who play in real tournaments and not just tournaments made on the internet, like, in-person tournaments, I have no clue if they offer the lv. 100 modifier, but if not, I don't care as I never enter those. They usually take place in the daytime, meaning my body would combust in the sunlight, so I can't enter. Therefore, I don't care. But there's the answer as to why no one knows: no one has tried it yet.
     

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