Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

States decks

Anyone who speaks of Rhyperior, Try again. The deck kills itself too fast for it to be viable.
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Dialgia+ssu=a good 4+ 150 swings. What I found to be really amazing about this deck is how many times you can actually use rhyperiors power. Between 3 periors, 4 SSU, NM, and the multiple dialgias, if kingdra wasn't around, I could easily see decking decks coming back as a force (espically with 40 minute rounds over 30).
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I think Rhyperior based decks are atleast worth taking a look at. Platinum's release gives it the tools to basically OHKO any pokemon in the format, and that alone has to warrant atleast some consideration for the deck. I've been playtesting one now for the past week or so and I'm pretty happy with the results. And as Brady1 mentioned, SSU works wonders and Time-Space Tear helps this deck out alot.

I havent had any problems with decking myself. Between all the stuff that can put cards back into your deck like, Claydol, Dialga, Night Maintenance, and not to mention Rhyperiors other attack that puts all the Fighting back into your deck, I really just havent had any issues. You should be able to get 6 prizes before you deck yourself easily. Plus, dont forget you dont ALWAYS have to use Hard Crush to do damage, the last time I checked Rhyperior had 2 other attacks at its disposal.

As for the Kingdra matchup, its a struggle completely. The ability to do 120 with 1 energy is just too efficient and fast. And the fact that Kingdra decks commonly tech in Mesprit and Alakazam for power locks isnt helping your cause either. I wouldnt say that Rhyperior absolutely cant pull it off, but I've always believed that any deck can beat another deck given the right circumstances. Sure I've beaten Kingdra a couple times in my playtesting, but its just an ugly matchup and Rhyperior will almost always lose.

So IMO, the only really bad matchup for this deck is Kingdra. And based on that fact alone I would say that Rhyperior would be a good play for States. It might not be able to beat Kingdra in the top cut, but I guarantee its good enough to get into the top cut.
 
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Blaziken 1111 said:
Kingdra dies to amphy and if amphy is played as much as it is hyped then both kingdra and blastoise will fail. Champ isn't really that good especially with toxicroak killing it so much. G pokemon are decent. Probaly tier 1.5 I say. I think rampardos is easily tier 1. Torterra only gets better. I mean what is a auto win against it. Practically nothing. AMU and Gigas are both still good. Dusknoir dies almost completely. Beedrill may see some succesful play too.
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Lol @ Kingdra dying to Amphy. Dialga G Lv. X solves the problem. Any competitive deck that plays powers will play it.
 
I've wanted to quote so many people but I'm too lazy lol. Some of the comments on here are just plain absurd.

First of all, Beedril doesn't have resistance to Fighting.

Second of all, it's impossible to get a T1 Rhyperior Lv. X unless you play Level Max which IMO would be quite stupid in a Rhyperior deck that is already tight on space.

Third, anyone who says Tyranitar had no bad matchups during CCs is CRAZY. Kingdra beat it. Regigigas beat it. At LEAST. REALLY good TTars didn't have any other bad matchups, but the mediocre TTars had other bad matchups. Don't tell me Kingdra and Regi lose to TTar because that's totally untrue lol

And while I'm not sure what will be the best deck to play for States is, Regigigas should definitely be a top contender. A few people said it was great and a few said it was bad: I'm telling you right now it's good. And I forgot your name but the guy with the long posts from Ohio, you said Regi never won anything in Ohio because of Mewtwo. Guess what card is in the next set? Oh yeah, Dialga G Lv. X. Mewtwo doesn't beat it now so Dusknoir doesn't either. Kingdra can't beat it unless it runs Mesprits/SSU and gets lucky.

And you're ALL underestimating G Pokemon. Toxicroak is not even the one you should be worried about.
 
Second of all, it's impossible to get a T1 Rhyperior Lv. X unless you play Level Max which IMO would be quite stupid in a Rhyperior deck that is already tight on space.
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Doesnt Time Space Tear allow you to accomplish this? Or am I reading the card wrong?
 
Nope, Leveling up is not "evolving" persay, so turn 1 (going 2nd) you can go Rhyhorn/Rhydon/Rhyperior but can't level up; you have to wait another turn in order to accomplish that.
 
Toxicroak is pretty much the only attacker for SP decks as of Platinum. Maybe more stuff will come when BET hits the US, but Toxicroak's pretty much it. The only ones I see as remotely playable attacking-wise are Gyarados G, Palkia G, Houndoom G, and Toxicroak G. Unless you can think of something else, which I don't put past you. You are the Iron Chef Champion, of course.
 
I think Kingdra will still be dominate and a lot (including me) will probably play 1-1 Dialga G Lv. X to hinder Ampharos, Sceptile / Shaymin Lv. X, and Obamasnow. TST makes Beedrill really playable from what 've tested. My favorite SP combo would have to be Crobat + Honchkrow altough like most other SP decks, it folds late game. Torterra will probably still see play and I'm not sure about Gigas.
 
I'm gonna agree with senor Magnechu on this one. Gigas is possibly the best deck in the format with the additionof Dialga X. The thing is, Machamp is one of the easiest decks to tech against which happens to be Gigas' worst matchup. If Rampy starts to see wisespread play THEN gigas will have some problems.
 
Hey, it's a high risk/high reward deck but I'm willing to bet that people will have realized that Rampy is just not fit to be a donk deck because of the fossil and go back to playing Machamp/Kingdra. Altho I could be wrong ;/
 
one dude on my team got a box of GC. he has 4 gliscor G's and Giratina lvX and still hasn't put them in a deck together. i think its gonna be really good at States.
 
And I forgot your name but the guy with the long posts from Ohio, you said Regi never won anything in Ohio because of Mewtwo. Guess what card is in the next set? Oh yeah, Dialga G Lv. X. Mewtwo doesn't beat it now so Dusknoir doesn't either. Kingdra can't beat it unless it runs Mesprits/SSU and gets lucky.
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I'm sad facing because I'm just a dood with long posts from Ohio. :(

Anyways, I know that Dialga G LX is gonna make Gigas a lot more bomb, and he will be problematic, but theres always Mightyena to fall back on. Yeah, I know, its a weak comeback, but he's not locked out by Dialga, at least. I dunno, maybe its just I don't like Regigigas, he's too big for my taste.

If Gigas sees a spike in play though, Machamp will have to come back, because it is already known as a solid choice. IMHO it is better than Ramparados still. I can't consider it a BDIF because while it still has a ton of good matchups, it still has problems with the fighting types, Kingdra still only has one less than exemplary matchup (Gigas does give it a chunk of problems), but most of its matchups against other decks are either favorable at best, and breaks even with mostly everything else. Gigas has plain out unfavorable matchups against any fighting oriented deck (Machamp'll still be around thanks to G Pokes, and it weaks Ampharos/Tric with minimal problems) But I do see your point and admit that I failed to consider Dialga G Level X.

Dude above me, its probably wise not to speak of that.

First of all, Beedril doesn't have resistance to Fighting.
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Whoops. I always for some reason assume he has fighting resistance because he does have wings and all.. lol
 
i think beedrill will see play and possibly when a states because of the Time-Space Tear stadium =D
 
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