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suspended from school for defending myself..... why

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luxraygarchomp

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I was just tring to get evryones opionion I am suspended from school all next week because somone punched me in the face and i punched them in the face to defend myself. my dad is happy about my sticking up for myself and when he picked me up from school we went to go get ice cream. but im pissed because all of my teachers are going to think im a bad kid right now i cant see my freinds for a week and i have to do all of my work with out being tought it. Do u think schools should give the person who defends themself the same punishment as the bully who starts the fight
 
I agree, you did the right thing. There is nothing wrong with sticking up for your self. People who hurt others, need to have it turned around on them, or else they'll think they can do what ever they want to who ever they want.
 
Similar thing happened to my neighbor, but he didn't get suspended nor fought back. And now the priciple thinks
my neighbor is the cause of it when it was clearly the kid beating him up.
Like vaporean said "This is America"
 
You punched them in the face, stories can be twisted so it looks like you attacked first.
Usually both parties are suspended if aggression was made. In my last thread when i said defend yourself I meant it literately meaning block but not fight back. Dodge and not fight back.

When I was in 7th grade 1 person tried to "jump on me" from be hind but I moved and they missed they ended hitting the floor instead and broke their collar bone. When push came the shove they tried to suspend me too but there were enough witnesses to say I didn't even touch the other person and I just avoided their attack. Plus I said voer and over I didn't touch them. While the other person claimed I attacked them. Which wasn't possible with the damage they had. In the end i wasn't suspended but soon after changed to a private school.

I suggest again trying to talk to the school about it and that it is an on going issue and you have been bullied in the pas and you have had enough of it. Tell them how it is you are there to learn not worry about annoying bullies. The Teachers/ Adults will repect you for that.

GOOD LUCK
 
Eh, you'll learn as you grow older how flawed education systems are, especially in the U.S., so don't sweat it. You did the right thing by defending yourself, your dad obviously approves, and no one is going to think any more ill of you for defending yourself. Just don't go starting fights or looking for trouble lol.
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Defending yourself is a tough line to define as to what is considered truelly defending yourself. If you get punched, you have to know that there are "other options" before considering to "retaliate"- the law will see it as a retaliation if you do not conduct yourself in a manner that upholds behavior that is acceptable in the public/private places.

If it comes down to where the person attacking you is continuosly assalting you, and you have done every other possable option to remove yourself from the situation- and you do have to strike back to get the person to stop the assult- then that is defending yourself.

Sounds rediculous to get hit repeatedly- but you have to remove yourself in the first place. If your do hit back, and the person does stop- and you proceed to hit them again after they have stopped their anitial assult- then you cross the line and become an attacker yourself.

This is a moral and self control matter as well. It is tough to know when it is time to "defend" yourself- and nor is it a good idea to allow yourself to be beat up.

If a person starts beating you up, and they stop and walk away, and you decide to retaliate- then you are just as guilty of the same "crime"-- but if the person is beating you up, they stop and then you get up and they come at you again- then you can truelly defend yourself if you have no other options.

Sociaty expects that each person knows how to conduct themselves in an acceptable behavior that demonstates that you as a person can uphold the "moral standerds" on being a good citizen.

If a person attakcs you, do not retaliate or "shrink to thier level" by demonstating the level of ignorance and lack of self control- if you demonstrate you have done everything possable to do so and have to resort to hitting back- you will be in the right.

It sucks- no one likes to be hit- but letting ignorance and self control to be tossed aside and use that as a reason as "defending yourself" will not prevail. Retaliation is worse in that it shows that you can not be the better person.
That is why both people are in the same amount of trouble and treated the same by way of the law.

If this ever happens to you again, try to keep in mind that hitting back must be the absolute last option and your only hitting/fighting back as a way to protect yourself- not defend yourself. There is a big difference in defending and protecting. If you can show that you did it to protect yourself and not defend- you will win the fight both morally and lawfully.

Defend is to block, protect is to preserve. Preserve yourself, defend your rights to preserve.

just my thoughts......... sorry to hear someone attacked you, but sorry to see that you went on the offence to soon as well.
 
If you take any type of martial arts, you can learn to win a fight without throwing a single punch. I've had bully problems before and after they see that not only do I not stoop to their level by hitting back, but that I can beat them up just by blocking and striking certain areas with either your elbow or forearm, they back off and will never come after you again. Also if you don't swing, you look less like the person causing the fight.
 
Yea i gues i should have just walk away but i was sick of doing that for the past few years and being a human punching bag but now all of my friends look up to me for beating up the baddest of the bad at my school lol
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Students do not have the right to defend themselves. This is the position of the schools and they enforce it by suspending all parties to a fight. Regardless, you did the right thing. Sometimes, that has consequences, thats all.
 
Ice cream? Shoot, I would have taken you out for pizza. But I hear ice cream's better for this kind of situation, they told me long ago that ice cream's the best thing after getting your ears pierced (I am never getting my ears pierced again).

What you did was show the bully that you're not going to take his junk anymore, and that you'll fight back if he does it again. Now you've got your friends' respect and you've got your dad's respect, and even the bully respects you now to some degree.

I do believe in nonviolent negotiation and peacemaking, but there are just some situations where the only thing a person will understand is a punch to the face.

If your friends were around, then you should have enough people to back you up in case the principal threatens to suspend you. I had a math teacher once who explained at the start of the school year, that if you put your muddy boot on someone's back in class and they turn around and beat the snot out of you for it, he's not going to do anything about it because you brought it on yourself. Of course, he was from the old school, the new school is a lot different...

It should be the teachers' or faculty's duty to prevent this kind of stuff, but if they know it's going on but choose to do nothing, then I still don't advocate martial law but shoot, the kid's bound to get it smacked into him sooner or later that treating other people like punching bags just isn't suitable behavior.

That was basically several paragraphs worth of "you did the right thing". Don't let whatever consequences the school hands you for it tell you otherwise.
 
It's never the instigator that gets caught. It's always the retaliator.
 
If it makes you feel any better, I gave up my dream career because my principal told me that if I attempted to make it in that field, that I wouldn't make it so I never bothered trying. Teachers aren't always right and neither are there decisions - unfortunately.
 
I've always hated the fact that defending yourself through retaliation is punishable, by suspension no less. Not to say I don't understand where the position comes from, but I've often heard the excuse that "it doesn't matter who started it," only that completely sidesteps any cause, resolves nothing, and can even cause more problems.

You did the right thing IMO, so don't think too much about it.
 
luxraygarchomp said:
Yea i gues i should have just walk away but i was sick of doing that for the past few years and being a human punching bag but now all of my friends look up to me for beating up the baddest of the bad at my school lol
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Defend yourself but fighting back isn't defending yourself.
Block the Punch not Punch back.
 
homeofmew said:
Defend yourself but fighting back isn't defending yourself.
Block the Punch not Punch back.
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Yea i guess i was a little too agressive but sieng him crying on the ground with a bloody nouse in front of his girlfreind and i bunch of other people was pretty funny
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