Swampert. He has his uses.

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  1. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    20 Pokémon:
    4 Mudkip CG Submerge
    2 Marshtomp GE
    4 Swampert GE
    2 Swampert Ex CG
    2 Palkia DP
    2 Palkia LVX GE
    4 Lapras GE

    24 Trainers:
    3 Roseanne's Research
    4 Celio's Network
    4 Rare Candy
    3 Holon Circle
    4 TV Reporter
    3 Switch
    3 Night Maintainance

    16 Energy:
    12 Water Energy
    4 Double Rainbow Energy

    Strategy: Get a Swampert or two rolling. Try to get out Palkia X ASAP, then use Restructure. Now here's why I picked Swampert; he can ensure that the one who becomes active gets the energy. This way, I can hit whatever I wish to, while ensuring powerful attacks.
    I'm a bit struggling with the backup though. Swampert Ex seems pretty good here. But we all know sending out Ex's isn't THE best idea this format. On the other hand, Getlade needs 4 prizes to KO Swampert, so he's gonna struggle with a swarm. Swampert beats Gardevoir in a man-on-woman fight, so I dont fear Psychic Lock TOO much.
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2008
  2. garchompx12

    garchompx12 New Member

    take out the kisses, and add in 1-1 or even 2-2 mantine MT. it works so much better since its basically an auto-reversal because you can retreat freely for a swamppert after a restructure
  3. jconti2818

    jconti2818 Member

    If you are going to be a running a water deck anyway, I think you would be better off with Lapras as your starter. You are guaranteed an energy and thin your deck by at least two cards each turn. With Pacharisu, once you fill up your bench, you are about done and most people aren't playing tools which stick around for a while like cessation crystal.
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2008
  4. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    I would add Lapras instead of Pachi if I didn't play Togekiss. Lapras removes from Togekiss's pulls. He will be in if I find a better draft that excludes Togekiss.
    Garchomp: Except that Swampert and Palkia have higher retreat.
  5. Flygon999

    Flygon999 New Member

    You need a main attacker.
  6. fragnito

    fragnito New Member

    is 80 not enough for a main attacker? or even 60 plus that attack assures that you dont lose your energy if he is knocked out, thats what makes the whole deck work
    i wish i had the cards to try this out
    so do you never plan to attack with swampert cg?
  7. The_Lurb

    The_Lurb New Member

    I would definately suggest using the CG Mudkip, not being snipable is really nice and it's only a 10 HP difference.
  8. tc19930815

    tc19930815 New Member

    gd deck!! u may want to tech in a togetic d
  9. UFtroll

    UFtroll New Member

    Don't dismiss the rest of my post after this comment BUT this may be the right deck for Night Maintenance Center.
    I would rather have Claydol than Togekiss
    Wouldn't switch be better than Warp Point? You get an automatic heads on a reversal with Palkia and then you let them switch out the one you pick? I would put in 3 switches.
    My suggestion
    -4 toge
    -4 pachy
    +4 baltoy
    +2 claydol
    -2 WP
    +3 switch
    +1 trainer your choice
    -4 water
    + 4 multi/fighting
    If you are going to use Swampert EX - Oaks Visit + TV reporter or better falicitys
  10. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    Flygon - Swampert IS my Main Attacker.
    Fragnito - Thinking of getting him out. His attack is too meh, but his draw effect is nice.
    Lurb - Hmm, you're right there, thanks.
    tc - Why?
    UF - The problem with Claydol is that I cannot afford to have something on my bench that cannot attack. Palkia X is likely to let my opponent drag out Claydol, which I do not want due to his 2 retreat cost. There will be edits made though, its needed, and I've had some improvement ideas.
  11. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    - 1 Swampy GE
    + 1 Swampy CG

    No Mew*?

    Claydol wouldn't be too bad either.
  12. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    Ardoptres, I can't use non-attacking backup due to Palkia.
    Mew* is WAY too fragile.
  13. UFtroll

    UFtroll New Member

    I like the changes you made.

    Does Swampert move Double Rainbow? It says energy so my guess is yes. If so Claydol still could work but I think I like Lapras taking up less room
    Maybe add in a couple of Amulet Coin and Two scrambles for a Night Main. 2 DRE and One energy or Holon Circle?? Two reasons Extra draw if you start with lapras 1st turn. Would really temp a Pachirisu to Smash Short twice and activate your Scrambles. Allow you to spread out damage as you use Palkia and then clean up with multiple prizes with Swampert EX later in the game.

    Do you need a SCOTT to allow you to get a stadium second or third turn?
  14. jconti2818

    jconti2818 Member

    Don't forget, Palkia's first attack can also allow you to pull a stadium card from the deck.

  15. UFtroll

    UFtroll New Member

    Good point but with Lapras I think I would rather have 2 Holon Circle and 1 Scott than 3 Holon Circle
  16. Scipio

    Scipio New Member

    Its up for reconsideration. It also helps me getting rid of Crystal Beaches that might obstruct me, so I'm leaning towards this. This build tends to draw into one Holon Circle sooner or later anyway, and they're not VITAL to my success. After all, I can get by without Swampy Ex's charging.
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