T-tar's Tail Of Victory!!! For States

[HRPrime]

Hello again, here is my deck:

Pokemon:
4/3/4 T-tar (3 Prime 1 SF)
4 Sableye SF
2 Uxie LA
1 Azelf LA
1 Unown Q
1 Unown D-A-R-K
1 Chatot G
1 Chatot MD

T/S/S:
4 Bebe's Search
4 BTS
2 Seeker
4 Pokemon Collector
4 Judge
1 Copycat
2 Cyrus's Initiative
1 Luxury Ball
4 Rare Candy
1 Fisherman

Energy:fire::fighting::colorless::dark::lightning::metal:sychic::water::grass::
3 DCE
1 Warp Energy
4 Darkness Energy
3 :dark: Energy

Strategy: Get out T-tar lines, use Chatot G to Change the opponent's top 4 cards on their deck, Seeker for getting Uxie, Azelf, Chatot MD, Unown D-A-R-K out of bench so they can't be Prized, Use Warp energy to switch T-tar, Darkness Energy to Make T-tar Stronger, and Unown Q to make it easier to retreat.

Comments are welcome!:thumb:

 

[HRPrime]

Is anyone going to help this has been out for almost 2 days??? Is it good for the states??

 

[Greenmonkey89]

have you thought bout running spiritombs(AR) instead of sableye so it will help set up quicker

 

[cpeterik]

Well I have already posted this several times, but here goes:
One of the best ways to abuse T-Tar right now is with Spiritomb, Vileplume, and Blissey Prime. Lock Trainers and get set up with Spiritomb/Vileplume. The only attack your really going to use is Darkness Howl to spread 20. Blissey will heal off the damage on your side. Discarding energy is no biggie because you only take 1 to charge up. Spread Spread Spread. Use Lunatone/Solrock combo to counter Garchomp C Lv.X. Low energy count= lots of room for goodies and consistency.

 

[HRPrime]

have you thought bout running spiritombs(AR) instead of sableye so it will help set up quicker

I have been doing that for a wile but it just locks the trainers, so I can't use Rare candy or Luxury ball. Plus Sableye is a good card, calling a Supporter from the deck and using it as a attack.

I made this strategy with Sableye:
call/use out a Bebe's Search, get a T-tar, call/use a Collector, get Chatot G out along with a Larvitar and Unown Q, Put down Chatot G; Larvitar; and Unown Q, put Unown Q on Sableye, retreat and bring out Chatot G, use Search and Escape, get a Rare Candy from deck, use Rare Candy on Larvitar and get T-tar out (I forgot wile this is going play energies on Larvitar until T-tar comes into play and until you can use any attack), This could be a 2-4 turn thing, but it works!

BTW nothing to do with Sableye but T-tar SF can be ultra strong with Grind attack, Put all four Darkness Energy (Special) and you get 240 Damage, thats more than Rayquaza C Lv.X can do and you need to discard energies on Rayquaza C Lv.X!

 

[Greenmonkey89]

I have been doing that for a wile but it just locks the trainers, so I can't use Rare candy or Luxury ball. Plus Sableye is a good card, calling a Supporter from the deck and using it as a attack.

I made this strategy with Sableye:
call/use out a Bebe's Search, get a T-tar, call/use a Collector, get Chatot G out along with a Larvitar and Unown Q, Put down Chatot G; Larvitar; and Unown Q, put Unown Q on Sableye, retreat and bring out Chatot G, use Search and Escape, get a Rare Candy from deck, use Rare Candy on Larvitar and get T-tar out (I forgot wile this is going play energies on Larvitar until T-tar comes into play and until you can use any attack), This could be a 2-4 turn thing, but it works!

BTW nothing to do with Sableye but T-tar SF can be ultra strong with Grind attack, Put all four Darkness Energy (Special) and you get 240 Damage, thats more than Rayquaza C Lv.X can do and you need to discard energies on Rayquaza C Lv.X!

ok just wondering cuz i ran the same deck as you did and i did really well with the spirtombs in cuz it made setup so quick and easy for me looking at it now sableye can help as well wont setup as quick but it definitly will be a force to reckon with. you may do well @ states

 

[HRPrime]

ok just wondering cuz i ran the same deck as you did and i did really well with the spirtombs in cuz it made setup so quick and easy for me looking at it now sableye can help as well wont setup as quick but it definitly will be a force to reckon with. you may do well @ states

yes Spiritomb can EVD pokemon, but Sableye can can get out the same Pokemon Spiritomb can but without the lock!

thanks I hope I can get at least 4th @ states

 

[Greenmonkey89]

yes Spiritomb can EVD pokemon, but Sableye can can get out the same Pokemon Spiritomb can but without the lock!

thanks I hope I can get at least 4th @ states

yea im running houndoom hand distruption @ states

 

[HRPrime]

whats that???????????

 

[Greenmonkey89]

whats that???????????

basically i would want to start with sableye to get setup quick i run a 3-3 houndoom from UD and 2-2 weavile (UD) and the whole point is to get cards out of my opponets hand by way of weavile, houndoom, team rockets trickery, cyrus inititave and i also run a 1-1 slowking from HGSS so i can control wat they draw its a fun deck and if i face off against lostgar i one shot them with houndoom with a darkness energy and bucks training

 

[HRPrime]

basically i would want to start with sableye to get setup quick i run a 3-3 houndoom from UD and 2-2 weavile (UD) and the whole point is to get cards out of my opponets hand by way of weavile, houndoom, team rockets trickery, cyrus inititave and i also run a 1-1 slowking from HGSS so i can control wat they draw its a fun deck and if i face off against lostgar i one shot them with houndoom with a darkness energy and bucks training

sounds like a good deck!

 

[Greenmonkey89]

sounds like a good deck!

yea its not bad dont expect it to win states but hey as long as i have fun then it was a success

 

[HRPrime]

yea its not bad dont expect it to win states but hey as long as i have fun then it was a success

thats the point to POP to have fun!

 

[Barkjon]

Fisherman is kinda pointless in here...

You need Tombs bro. Maybe 3 Tombs and 1 Sableye, if you really want to keep the Sableyes. Trust me, Tombs are essential. Especially vs. SP.

I'd play 4 DCE and 4 regular darkness energy.

I don't really like Chatot G in here, as it is mainly just good for locking decks like Sablelock. Remove it.

One thing you could try is running 4 SF T-tar. DCE onto this guy can make Grind wicked.

Judge and Iniative aren't great in here, you can prolly remove the Iniatives and 2 of the Judges.

 

[HRPrime]

Fisherman is kinda pointless in here...

You need Tombs bro. Maybe 3 Tombs and 1 Sableye, if you really want to keep the Sableyes. Trust me, Tombs are essential. Especially vs. SP.

I'd play 4 DCE and 4 regular darkness energy.

I don't really like Chatot G in here, as it is mainly just good for locking decks like Sablelock. Remove it.

One thing you could try is running 4 SF T-tar. DCE onto this guy can make Grind wicked.

Judge and Iniative aren't great in here, you can prolly remove the Iniatives and 2 of the Judges.

Ok i'll do this:
-1 Fisherman
-2 Iniatives
-2 Judge
add what

(chatot G is ok in here I need to pull out a rare candy)
(I would like to stick to 3 Primes and 1 SF)
(DCE only counts as one energy on Grind, putting all four Darkness energies makes is wicked)
(I would leave the Sableye they can do the same thing but without the lock)

 

[Roottori]

Ok i'll do this:
-1 Fisherman
-2 Iniatives
-2 Judge
add what

(chatot G is ok in here I need to pull out a rare candy)
(I would like to stick to 3 Primes and 1 SF)
(DCE only counts as one energy on Grind, putting all four Darkness energies makes is wicked)
(I would leave the Sableye they can do the same thing but without the lock)

Nope, DCE counts as two energies on Grind.

"Does 20 damage times the amount of Energy attached to Tyranitar."

20 times the amount of energy, not energy cards.

 

[HRPrime]

oh ok but that still does just 40 damage! thats weak. strong is all the Dark special energies on him doing 240 damage

 

[Mama_Luigi]

oh ok but that still does just 40 damage! thats weak. strong is all the Dark special energies on him doing 240 damage

I'd so quote this if I wasn't too lazy to.

Let's do an analysis here.
You say 40 damage for a dce is weak, but you suggest that 120 damage for 4 sp dark energy is strong (It doesn't do 240, don't know where you got that from)
Speed is so essential in this format. I'd rather have 40 for a dce than 160 for FOUR SPECIAL dark energies.
And keep 3/1 T-tar. It's the best for this.
Although I do agree with the vileplume and blissey prime thing

 

[HRPrime]

It does do 240 damage, 4 Darkness energies on him makes the base 60 instead of 20, then 60x4=240

no one has told me what to switch for the cards I took out above

 

[Mama_Luigi]

First off, I donn't think you got my two main points.
Tthe first one was, you're comparing 1 energy to 4. If you had 4 dce attached to tyranitar, you'd be swinging at 160, 40 more than if you had 4 sp darks.
Second, you're never going to get that set up.

---------- Post added 02/16/2011 at 03:19 PM ----------

Added: You have 4 sp darks on your tyraitar. Base damageis 80. The extra damage from your sp darks makes it 120