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Team Rocket Returns to Rockford, IL 11/6 (Prize Structure Update)

Yout CANNOT have a select group of players secretly pre-register ahead of others so they are guraunteed a seat.

I think PreRegistration for a tournament for folks that play there week in week out is fine. I think your local folks should be given the chance to be in your local tournament.

(I mean local by the folks that go to the League every week at the location.) I was upset that I drove an hour to be shut out, but I thought about it, and I would have been more upset if I was a local, and an Out of Towners came a took a seat that I was expecting to be playing in.

Again, Yoshi, I believe you probably didn't anticipate having all 32 seats taken. Better communcation that there where 12 spots left, would have given folks a better idea to go to Niles, (Hindsite is always 20/20).

Again Yoshi, thanks for dealing with the grief. I don't mind trying to make it to one of your tournaments, but I guess that we all learned a lesson.
 
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"Yoshi didn't once mention that it was possible to pre-register. He posted the tournament information on the OFFICIAL Pokemon OP site which stated that registration began at 12:30. I arrived at 12:30 and did not get to play. Yout CANNOT have a select group of players secretly pre-register ahead of others so they are guraunteed a seat. Your TO is in dangerous waters if he continues to support this behavior."

I was under the impresssion that there were x number of willing willing to pay for the event-I was not aware they were actually paid for and signed up. I've only been to the store twice (I do know the people who run the league there): Yesterday and back in August when I scoped the place out. Everything else was phone/e-mail.
 
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For one, the TO did bring up the fact that they'd be accepting "pay in advance" registrations to yoshi1001 via e-mail. He didn't say anything about it. I'm not a TO, nor am I the one who suggested to run it at TIY, I'm just stating the facts. There wasn't any "secret" conspiriacy going on.

That is entirely false. The TO did not include the information to pre-register on the Pokemon OP site http://op.pokemon-tcg.com/tournaments/tournaments_detail.asp?tournament_id=411000099 when he sanctioned the tournament. A few select players had pre-registered covertly without anyone else knowing. That is very wrong.

I was under the impresssion that there were x number of willing willing to pay for the event-I was not aware they were actually paid for and signed up. I've only been to the store twice (I do know the people who run the league there): Yesterday and back in August when I scoped the place out. Everything else was phone/e-mail.

Yoshi, I would strongly suggest that you choose an alternate site for a CC. Make sure you can support 50+ players and get the information out ASAP. I don't blame you entirely for what happened at the pre-release, but you have to plan your events a little more carefully. We are planning on having a CC in Whitewater and have a room that can hold 50+ people and will have several Pokemon Professors at the event. By planning for the best possible turnout you gurauntee that everyone will go home happy.
 
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The TO did register the Tourney with all of the information, but then Yoshi (who became the head judge) said that PUI will do that for us (or something to that extent), so that's why there was no info about it. This was our first premier event held at the store, and those that played will say that it went on without a hitch.

This entire thing is being blown out of proportions. If you were interested in going, maybe you should have called ahead, like me and my family do before we go to any major event. TIY had all of the information written down and would have been more than willing to give it to you, or if you couldn't call, just go and check it out ahead of time.

I guess there was just a major lack of communication between the TO, Yoshi, and the PokeGym Forums, and I personally think that no one should be at fault.

Now please stop with this nonsense. It's really not going to accomplish anything. I've already explained the situation, and the event is already over. It's not our fault that you didn't get in. There were over 32 people there when you got there, so could we have told someone "Oh, you can't play even though you were here first."? Not really. They already paid. 95% of the preregistered people were there anyway by 12:30.
 
OK, now for my 2 cents.

We left a store site in Memphis for an offsite location, and had numbers drop by 40%

We will be going back to a store location for Cities - just seems that parents are more comfortable taking their kids to an established business.

Next time - the store will have to be visited to see if it can "max support" playspace for this event.

For a free city championship - this should be at a venue able to hold 50+ players.

I would not run away to an offsite location too quickly, if this one can be made to be successful.

If this means not running other games, then so be it, let's make it worth the store owner's while, and offer them a few bucks a head to get the space.

Hope to see the game keep growing in the area. This looks like a new venue with lots of potential.

M45
 
In the details section of the Pokemon-tcg site where the prerelease was listed it should have been entered that there was an extra small number of seats available (32 is a very small maximum for a prerelease and a there is no excuse for a PTO not to know this). It was also not mentioned here at the Gym (the most popular, by far, Pokemon tcg web site). Both un-excusable! A PTO should be on top of the "Player" situation in his area. For Rockford this would include- all of the Chicago land area, all of Wisconsin, and maybe even NW Indiana. People from these areas tend to travel and a PTO should know this. PokeGym should be a prerequisit regular stop for any PTO for this reason.
 
"(32 is a very small maximum for a prerelease and a there is no excuse for a PTO not to know this)."

It sounds enormous when your last prerelease had a total attendance of 6.
 
It may not be the size of the site that is the issue, but the limiting of the seats w/ preregistering WITHOUT notifying anyone ahead of time that may be traveling. Personally, I would have taken the added prize structure and added a few more players to the PR w/ the "extra prizes". If they have to play on the floor, so what, not like it hasnt happened before. If you used 2 boxes as extra prize support, that could have been 7 more players. (72 packs, guaranteed 10 packs each). JHMO

Keith
 
It may not be the size of the site that is the issue, but the limiting of the seats w/ preregistering WITHOUT notifying anyone ahead of time that may be traveling. Personally, I would have taken the added prize structure and added a few more players to the PR w/ the "extra prizes". If they have to play on the floor, so what, not like it hasnt happened before. If you used 2 boxes as extra prize support, that could have been 7 more players. (72 packs, guaranteed 10 packs each). JHMO

We tried to get him to do that, but he was supposed to order 2 more boxes than he did AND the store's game room only holds 32 people. Playing on the floor is better than not playing at all.
 
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"(32 is a very small maximum for a prerelease and a there is no excuse for a PTO not to know this)."

It sounds enormous when your last prerelease had a total attendance of 6.

That prerelease was not in Rockford, correct? It is incumbent on a PTO to inform his customers or potential customers of potential irregularities in a tournament. I knew that there would be a large number of people going to this tournament, even though I knew that I would not be attending and never once looked at your post on the gym or looked at the details on pokemon-tcg. If I had known that there was a maximum number of players of 32 I could have warned several players not to attend that one or informed you that you could potentially have a larger turn out than you where expecting. If you had posted that there was a max of 32 players, Even though I did not check out your sites specifically, players would have informed me and I may have been able to help in the situation.

Were the limiting factors to the amount of entrants allowed, space available or prizes available?
 
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An alternative could also have been to use judge support product for players; we came very close to doing that yesterday in San Diego as there was only _half a box_ left over after judge support was 'paid'. Had we had much more than the 63 players we ended up with, some of us would have (gladly) had to wait for our product...

'mom
 
I could have done that, except I misread the order form and didn't order judge support (still working that out-might order a few extra for cities), so I only had the one "extra" TRR box. (the other was a FR/LG box from Pokemon Rocks America).
 
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